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  • #46
    Over the years (13) I learned a few things that make me free from these things happening to me, not even a tantrum.

    Thais help me change for the better, I learn to trust my instinct, I am more calm, I show respect to people that I don't know, I never make people loose face in public and I don't check my brain at the airport when arriving in Thailand. I forgot to mention this one who is the more important in the P4P never make any promises you can't keep or intend to keep or rise any hope you can't fulfil or intend to fulfil.

    On the farang side you have to learn to choose your friends or company because farang attract problems like a magnet, the same ones who are checking their brain at the airport and the ones who are only thinking with their cock. A few I met over the years bring their already bad behaviour from home.

    I drink when I go out but stop short before my drinking start to impaired my ability to make good decision. I allow myself to be drunk only when I am with people I know and I can trust that mean people I already knew before getting drunk.

    I avoid all girls or ladyboys who are on drug because we are not speaking about someone who smoke pot here but people high on yaba, it€™s not difficult to detect looking at their behaviour and chatting with them.

    I learn to trust my instinct, when I don€™t fell at ease in a situation or some little alarm bells start to arise I will avoid to pursue on that way, I don€™t brush off saying maybe it€™s me who is not thinking right. When I feel that the situation start to get bad in a bar even if I am not concern in this situation I pay my bill and go out.

    Never, never loose your temper in Thailand and this apply the P4P scene and never make a Thai loose face and this is particularly important in P4P scene.

    About hope and promise, some of the guy will tell you that they never promise anything but their behaviour are saying the contrary, they will be with a girl or a ladyboy for the most part of the evening touch, grope, caress and kiss but suddenly some other girls or ladyboy comes and they dump the previous one without any tip, a sure way to make someone to loose face. If you touch grope and do that kind of thing you are bringing some hope that you will take her out and by switching to new comer you are saying that she is not good or the new comer is better so prepare yourself for the problems that may come.
    Some guys are very good at making promises they don€™t intend to keep, the conversation goes like this: Tyrack you come back to bar for me tomorrow?
    Maybe!
    I give you my phone number,
    Ok I call you or I go to your bar tomorrow.

    The guy don€™t intend to call or go to that bar the next day but show up 2 or 3 days later at the same bar and barfined a other one thinking that this will not cause any problem because they are prostitute and they don€™t care.
    Like I heard in a ladyboys bar, €œno problem you can choose a other one we don€™t compete with each other€ be very careful of the one you dump for the new one.

    When in LOS I am there to enjoy life I am not there for a competition of how many I can fuck in a minimum of time. I make friend with the people I meet and I make sure to have good time before going for the sex, go dance, go to karaoke if the mood is right and most of the time I don€™t have dinner before going to the bar so I make sure to go eat before going to the hotel. A good fun in the evening before the sex always seems to make wonder in the bed.


    My last advise, get a life and stop having a argument about 20 or 30 bahts.
    Is it worth risking your health for a padded bill of 400 bahts?
    Put that in the lost column and you can also report the problem in forum like this one.

    It always amaze me to see a very drunk farang who was at the bar all night long having a blast with many ladies starting a argument about the bill that he is to drunk to even make the addition by himself. Where do you think the drinks the ladies have wile you have your blast are coming from or who is paying for them?
    If you want to argue about the bill stay sober.


    It happened for me one time in LAOS and I was with a friend who became aggressive about that and 4 doormen came to the table so I paid the bill and put that on the learning experience. By the way they did not pad the bill they charge for the ladies sitting with you at the table something we did not know before they ask to sit with us.

    You will never have the last word in a argument or a fight in Thailand so avoid them at all cost.

    I apply those simple rules when I am in LOS and I never had any argument not even a tantrum shown at me.

    Just my two cents €¦.

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    • #47
      Definitely worth more than 2 cents. Good post. I used those same rules on my first visit to LOS last year. My trip was smooth and enjoyable.

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      • #48
        (NamKhaeng @ Apr. 07 2008,00:46) Over the years (13) I learned a few things that make me free from these things happening to me, not even a tantrum.

        Thais help me change for the better, I learn to trust my instinct, I am more calm, I show respect to people that I don't know, I never make people loose face in public and I don't check my brain at the airport when arriving in Thailand. I forgot to mention this one who is the more important in the P4P never make any promises you can't keep or intend to keep or rise any hope you can't fulfil or intend to fulfil.

        On the farang side you have to learn to choose your friends or company because farang attract problems like a magnet, the same ones who are checking their brain at the airport and the ones who are only thinking with their cock. A few I met over the years bring their already bad behaviour from home.

        I drink when I go out but stop short before my drinking start to impaired my ability to make good decision. I allow myself to be drunk only when I am with people I know and I can trust that mean people I already knew before getting drunk.

        I avoid all girls or ladyboys who are on drug because we are not speaking about someone who smoke pot here but people high on yaba, it€™s not difficult to detect looking at their behaviour and chatting with them.

        I learn to trust my instinct, when I don€™t fell at ease in a situation or some little alarm bells start to arise I will avoid to pursue on that way, I don€™t brush off saying maybe it€™s me who is not thinking right. When I feel that the situation start to get bad in a bar even if I am not concern in this situation I pay my bill and go out.

        Never, never loose your temper in Thailand and this apply the P4P scene and never make a Thai loose face and this is particularly important in P4P scene.

        About hope and promise, some of the guy will tell you that they never promise anything but their behaviour are saying the contrary, they will be with a girl or a ladyboy for the most part of the evening touch, grope, caress and kiss but suddenly some other girls or ladyboy comes and they dump the previous one without any tip, a sure way to make someone to loose face. If you touch grope and do that kind of thing you are bringing some hope that you will take her out and by switching to new comer you are saying that she is not good or the new comer is better so prepare yourself for the problems that may come.
        Some guys are very good at making promises they don€™t intend to keep, the conversation goes like this: Tyrack you come back to bar for me tomorrow?
        Maybe!
        I give you my phone number,
        Ok I call you or I go to your bar tomorrow.

        The guy don€™t intend to call or go to that bar the next day but show up 2 or 3 days later at the same bar and barfined a other one thinking that this will not cause any problem because they are prostitute and they don€™t care.
        Like I heard in a ladyboys bar, €œno problem you can choose a other one we don€™t compete with each other€ be very careful of the one you dump for the new one.

        When in LOS I am there to enjoy life I am not there for a competition of how many I can fuck in a minimum of time. I make friend with the people I meet and I make sure to have good time before going for the sex, go dance, go to karaoke if the mood is right and most of the time I don€™t have dinner before going to the bar so I make sure to go eat before going to the hotel. A good fun in the evening before the sex always seems to make wonder in the bed.


        My last advise, get a life and stop having a argument about 20 or 30 bahts.
        Is it worth risking your health for a padded bill of 400 bahts?
        Put that in the lost column and you can also report the problem in forum like this one.

        It always amaze me to see a very drunk farang who was at the bar all night long having a blast with many ladies starting a argument about the bill that he is to drunk to even make the addition by himself. Where do you think the drinks the ladies have wile you have your blast are coming from or who is paying for them?
        If you want to argue about the bill stay sober.


        It happened for me one time in LAOS and I was with a friend who became aggressive about that and 4 doormen came to the table so I paid the bill and put that on the learning experience. By the way they did not pad the bill they charge for the ladies sitting with you at the table something we did not know before they ask to sit with us.

        You will never have the last word in a argument or a fight in Thailand so avoid them at all cost.

        I apply those simple rules when I am in LOS and I never had any argument not even a tantrum shown at me.

        Just my two cents €¦.
        Excellent advice Nam Khaeng


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        • #49
          I guess things are different here in Los Angeles. There is a club here called 7969 and one main reason I go is to see the gals FIGHT! And wow, do they lay it on! It usually starts with 'You stole my trick GURL" and then the drink flies in her face, then the fists, and everyone clears a circle around them until security calls it off. Funny though, I noticed that security isn't that quick to respond..... javascript:emoticon('')
          smilie

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          • #50
            Funny though, I noticed that security isn't that quick to respond.....
            Would you want to get involved?
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            • #51
              Worst that has happened to me was a kick in the ass by a LB down in Phuket - basically as a result of the couple of LB being too pissed one night and when i went home alone, they seemed to be a little pissed at me! Next night they apologised and seemed as happy a can be again... TIT

              Worst thing i ever saw was in Bangla Rd in phuket, and made me realise never mess with the locals as thai style justice is swift and merciless.

              Some poor thai guy was literally getting the shit kicked out of him on Bangla Rd and didnt seem to matter that he was on ground or not, the punishment just went on an on and on... and nobody stopped to say a word.


              Azza


              A worthy trip report

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              • #52
                Yes!

                There is a certain girl from La Bamba who is VERY agressive in bed Thought she was going to do internal damage!!

                Fun yes, but painful all the same

                Also, have to agree wholeheartedly with NamKhaeng - perfect advice for anyone coming to Thailand!!

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                • #53
                  NamKhaeng, that was really good  . I really enjoyed it and highly agree. Great reading for many a punter, new and seasoned alike I think. I am at times guilty of setting up false expectations, but it is hard not to at times as they can be so sweet and especially if you genuinely like one but the night turns in a different direction unexpectedly. I will always try to deal with it as gently as possible, but at the same time always honor bigger commitments (€œsun ya€ pinky shakes, accepting a birthday invitation, or what have you).

                  But I personally will never stand for bill padding, sober or not no matter how small the infraction. After enduring getting fleeced thousands of baht in patpong in its bad years when it was known for it, I ardently built many processes to avoid it. Simple things. Ask the price of each and every thing before you order it--your drink, LD, barfine, etc. Do this even if it is next door to a place you are familiar with.  It lets them know you are watching and also good for detecting things like a girl ordering an extravagant drink for herself. Don't run up big tabs--pay as you go or pay occasionally before a bill gets too big. Take a quick look at all the chits in the bin before paying for anything fishy. Figure the amount in your head before they give you their tally. Do the same for the change. Tip to reward good, honest service.

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                  • #54
                    (jadeite @ Apr. 09 2008,19:36) NamKhaeng, that was really good . I really enjoyed it and highly agree. Great reading for many a punter, new and seasoned alike I think. I am at times guilty of setting up false expectations, but it is hard not to at times as they can be so sweet and especially if you genuinely like one but the night turns in a different direction unexpectedly. I will always try to deal with it as gently as possible, but at the same time always honor bigger commitments (€œsun ya€ pinky shakes, accepting a birthday invitation, or what have you).

                    But I personally will never stand for bill padding, sober or not no matter how small the infraction. After enduring getting fleeced thousands of baht in patpong in its bad years when it was known for it, I ardently built many processes to avoid it. Simple things. Ask the price of each and every thing before you order it--your drink, LD, barfine, etc. Do this even if it is next door to a place you are familiar with. It lets them know you are watching and also good for detecting things like a girl ordering an extravagant drink for herself. Don't run up big tabs--pay as you go or pay occasionally before a bill gets too big. Take a quick look at all the chits in the bin before paying for anything fishy. Figure the amount in your head before they give you their tally. Do the same for the change. Tip to reward good, honest service.
                    I agree with you about the padding and also forgot to write about tip.

                    Most of the bars we visit are tourist oriented and they expect some tip when you pay your bill. A sure way to make a bad impression is to leave nothing for tip on top of leaving the place with nobody in tow.

                    I saw a guy in Phuket in a bar who had 8100 bahts bill and left 10 bahts for tip after they serve him and his compagny all night long I bet you that next time they will try to pad the bill of this guy.

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                    • #55
                      As far as I can remember, I only had one incident - that was in Orchard Towers - SGR.

                      I think it was my 1st time there, as I was trying to work out where everything was (all the floors and bars) and a lb starting talking to me. Well, I was polite but didn't really fancy her, but she told me about the top 2 floors. "Fine thanks" I said and continued upstairs.

                      Having had a good night - and pretty pissed by this time - I came down the stairs and met another lb. Really nice, and wanted to take her back to the hotel.

                      So, all going well, deal nearly done ................ and what happens ................. I'm suddenyl smashed in the shoulder by a punch !!

                      It was the previous lb, who was so visibly angry - I thought she was about to go bonkers. I look around and the nice one says sorry, and walks, or rather runs away. I think the nice one knew the aggressive one and wouldn't want any trouble ...

                      ... so my 1st night there - left with a confrontation ... and this shithouse wouldn't leave me alone.

                      Was so tempted to smack her one, but thought better of it - despite a few more swings from her - that I dodged.

                      Finally got back to my hotel - this has spoiled the whole bloody night for me, and I swore never to go into O Towrs again.

                      So - of course I went in the next night and didn't see either of them.

                      Ended up with a little cracker from Romeos who I continued to see for a number of years.

                      Mind you - when we were leaving down the escalators for the exit ............... I was praying that stroppy one wouldn't show up .. thankfully !!

                      Never had a problem in LOS - touch wood !!

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                      • #56
                        And I am sure Naag Faa wasn't there at all !!!

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                        • #57
                          (PigDogg @ Apr. 04 2008,16:36)
                          (Naang Faa @ Apr. 03 2008,03:18) but have an of you been physically harmed by a ladyboy?
                          No.
                          “When a nation's young men are conservative, its funeral bell is already rung.”
                          ― Henry Ward Beecher


                          "Inflexibility is the worst human failing. You can learn to check impetuosity, overcome fear with confidence and laziness with discipline. But for rigidity of mind, there is no antidote. It carries the seeds of its own destruction." ~ Anton Myrer

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                          • #58
                            (video850 @ Apr. 13 2008,14:38) And I am sure Naag Faa wasn't there at all !!!

                            Good lad! you never seen me, right!
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                            • #59
                              Am sure I've seen you b4 - but cannot remember which country !!!

                              Did u use any other names, by the way ?!?!??!?!?!

                              PS. Like ur sense of humour too     ... one cool, sophisticated lady !!!

                                 

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                              • #60

                                Yup,crimewatch UK
                                Your not a bounty hunter are you?
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