Aggressive ladyboys...

[seamus]

Ms Faa I thought this would have been a busy time for you, Thai New year & all those empty house's & appartments, sorry couldnt resists ! LOL

Seamus

[bigmick22]

someone's not getting a Christmas card this year!

[Naang Faa]

Ms Faa I thought this would have been a busy time for you, Thai New year & all those empty house's & appartments,

Hey you, I'll be over to Craggy Island and slap you Ted and Jack in a minute!!
x

[jimslim]

Been harmed

For some reason the big aggressive ones wanna take me home and treat me like their little baby

[bigmick22]

where in the world are you now Mr Slim?

[jimslim]

Just got back to the house about 2 hours ago mate ,
I must admit work will be fun tommorrow

[bigmick22]

damn - I feel your pain!

I trust the trip was a good one?

[jimslim]

Very good sir

[Otho]

As someone said earlier, "never make a promise you can't - or don't intend to - keep." Especially to a ladyboy. But even given that, you still need to be incredibly careful about what you say. And there are some conversational territories you probably shouldn't even venture into.

I just had a fantastic week in Pattaya. (Trip report soon come, promise.) During that time, I went with a number of girls from Stringfellows. They told me from the outset - literally within 5 minutes of getting in there on the first night - that they weren't jealous and I should take whoever I wanted, whenever I wanted.

It wasn't my first visit to Stringfellows and I'd already clocked up two or three of them in the past, so game on! I took them at their word. If they'd said it was totally out of order to chop and change, I would have gone along with that too, no problem. There are other paces to go, after all. While I was in the bar, without being a silly two week millionaire, I tried to be generous and fair and spread the ladydrinks around, even making sure to send drinks over to the non-superstars who don't seem to pull as often as the big names. Generally, I think the jai dee attitude was appreciated.

But even so, and no matter how cool they say it is, it's a high risk strategy.

I noticed a bit of friction one night between two girls after I barfined one of them. I hadn't been flirting or even talking that night with the one who I hadn't barfined, but we'd had a major snog and mutual grope a few nights earlier which had got quite out of hand. Looking back on it, I suppose she reckoned she'd definitely done enough to merit a future barfine from me, but it just didn't work out that way on the night. I don't speak Thai but I was pretty sure that the girl who'd been barfined said something bitchy and competitive about it to the other one, just to rub her nose in it. She didn't like what was said to her, and you can see from the other posts where that can lead. She certainly made a point of blanking me on subsequent nights, which was a shame as I really fancied her.

And then, no names no packdrill, but there was one that I took a few times that week, more than any other, sometimes alone, sometimes in a threesome, with different companions each time. She was always good fun, always keen to bring someone else into the action, a tremendous shag, nice to sleep with and wake up with in the morning, and very easy going. But on the night which she knew was my last, and as she assumed I was going to barfine her again (which indeed I duly did), she upped the ante and said "I tired work here, no like, no good me, I want good man. You, take me away, take care me. I want come live with you."

Don't worry. I don't make promises I can't keep and I'm also fairly well versed in Pattaya BG ways, so the alarm bells went off like fury. But I didn't want to tell her point blank, "sorry, but that's never going to happen." So I tried to keep it light.

I said "well look, you come live my country, you cannot work, cannot find job, and I go work office all day. Sometimes work 14, 15 hours, no come home, no weekend holiday. So while I out all day, what you do?"

"Clean loom."

"I no need you clean loom, I have cleaning lady, come two times a week. What about you cook?"

She looked a bit dubious (which told me instantly that she probably can't even boil an egg), but she said "yes, can."

I said, "I fantastic number one cook. No need lady cook for me."

This was all done in a very jokey sort of way between both of us, nothing heavy, all a bit of a laugh, The subject closed and we passed on to other things. Danger over.

But back at the hotel, after good sex and a comfortable few hours asleep, I sensed her waking up early. It was barely daylight and she usually slept happily till 11. She got up, went out on the balcony and smoked some of my cigarettes. She'd hardly ever smoked before. She got back into bed and said "last night, were you joking me about me live with you?"

I held her by her shoulders, looked her in the eye and said "darling I'm really sorry, you very nice girl, beautiful girl, I sure everything go good for you, but I can not live with you. It's just too difficult."

There was every possibility of a major tantrum. I could feel it like thunder in the air. She got up, went into the bathroom and locked the door, which she'd never done before. I could hear her running a bath and getting into it. Then there was absolutely no sound for a worryingly long time. I was just about to get up and knock when she came out. She'd evidently, thankfully, decided to get over it. She was all smiles. "I had dreams last night," she said. "Some bad, some lovely. I think everything OK."

I'm glad to say we then had thunderous sex. She was very aggressive (which kind of drags this post back to the original point of the thread), pulling my head and my cock, yelling out how she wanted me to suck her then fuck her. I finally came explosively all over her face. It was a shag I'll remember all my life.

After we slept for a while she went on her way, with a big hug, a deep kiss, a dazzling smile and a hope that I'd come back to see her soon. And a massive tip, of course.

But I knew it had been a close run thing.

[NamKhaeng]

Very good example about not trying to raise expectation. Even when you try not to it can happend not because of you but because of the dynamic between the ladyboys.

The next best thing is to be able to read your surrounding to understand what is happening and maybe coming at you

Very good story

[kahuna]

And we are all elated that you quoted the entire post...Did you really think we needed to read it twice???

BTW...Nice report Otho...

[NamKhaeng]

I noticed my mistake but I am unable to erase the quote.

[kahuna]

Sorry mate...didn't mean to jump on you...just found it a bit annoying...maybe a mod can fix it...

[thegame925]

I have never had any trouble with LBs on the P4P scene (apart from a slight contretemps in March in Pattaya on Walking Street to which Miss Naang Faa referred to in Post #1 of this thread).

In ACADEMIA » the difference between working and none-working LB

In December 2006 I wrote about my 9.5 year relationship with a Hong-Kong based, part-Chinese/part-Malay  lawyer (21 when we met), and two years after her death,  a 2.5 year relationship with Singaporean, part-Malay/part-Thai Accountants Receptionist (22 year old when we met).

Neither of these two LBs had ever worked on the P4P scene, both had been educated and both had careers.

However, they both had LB friends and acquaintances who were in €œnormal jobs€ i.e. Retail Sales, Hairdressers, Beauty Salons, Chefs, Waitresses , Designers, Musicians, Stage Hands, and the fringe areas of  dancers, cabaret, hostesses, where they were more often than not supplementing their income occasionally with escort work or full-time in the thick of P4P business.

During these two long term relationships my general observations, based on the community in which my LB partners mixed, were that there was plenty of aggression between the LBs themselves.

This aggression was often started by those LBs who were involved in some aspect of the P4P business, and it was certainly more likely that those involved with P4P were more likely to be involved with drugs and most likely to be short of money.

Jealousy over boy-friends and possessions or motor-cycle burns figured highly in the reasons for arguments, and arguments often became physically aggressive €“ with the €œAmazonian€ types picking on the €œfemme-boi€ types.

I do think LB€™s have more €œcat-fights€ than GGs, but then I think an LB is usually more immature than a GG and more prone to €œmood-swings€ because of the hormone intake.

Strangely, I found post-ops likely to physically attack pre-ops, but as this was obviously not testosterone fuelled aggression, I put it down to dissatisfaction with the results of the operations.

(Before anyone screams at me €“ please remember that I am going back over a 22 year period, where recreational drugs were not as available as they are today, and there SRS techniques were nowhere as good a today€™s procedures).

Yes, there is the risk of aggressive behaviour from drunk or drug fuelled P4P LBs against customers, but probably no more than one would get from drunk or drug fuelled P4P GGs against customers.

Yes, there is a high risk of aggressive behaviour from freelance LB€™s in certain sections of town (in any town in any country) and there is the same risk with freelance GGs in those situations.

If, under normal circumstances, in normal situations, a customer is polite and fair with the P4P provider, particularly one taken from a Club, there is very little chance of there being a problem. Mamasans usually know the ones that cause problems and either stop employing them or warn the customer.

My (very long) experience has taught me that the majority of problems are caused by the customer, not the LB P4P provider.

[jadeite]

I don't think anyone is going to jump on you since your info makes sense and you have great insights into their world. I concur ladyboys seem to carry a higher degree of volatility; I always kind of guessed due to a combination of the drug therapy they take plus a life that creates constant difficulties in coming to terms with it. Since they are genetically males, maybe that also makes for a higher tendency to opt for physical confrontations. They can indeed get nasty between themselves, a knife puncture to a silicone implant being one of the more ruthless. But I am not sure customers necessarily deserve some of the violent outbursts that they seem to have on occasion as they can be set off by very benign things.