This can't be true surely?

[jimbo34]

Don't know what you're on about Torot. we don't have any "no spend' customers! That's not a customer, is it?

[Torurot]

My question was quite clear Jimbo. A "visit fee" is spending in your bar. You have to pay it to leave with a girl. The earlier question is below.

Jimbo, as this is a recent policy change what was the percentage of walk in punters who brought NO drinks, but merely barfined and walked out? With the sophisticated billing system you have there, you could pull that info in less than one minute...

[Ivor Biggun]

I'm in there drinking more than barfining; is this gonna stop me gong in- I think not I agree with some of the above comments that I wouldn't want to be told how much to drink in an establishment either. Maybe a sliding scale of barfines is a solution, lots of places do it. On the other hand Jimbo's business isn't mine to conduct! Makye it could be presented a bit more diplomatically would be my 2 cents worth ( but I am a Cheap Charlie!!)

There has to be give and take and in reality there probably is- having consumed 10 drinks elsewhere over the course of an evening ( because you're on holiday and like a wander) do ya wanna have to force down another 3 or 4 before devoting yourself to tilak- God Bless Viagra!!

[jimbo34]

Toorot: answer is none.

Ivor (and anybody else) 500Bt = 2 beers + 2 Ladydrinks! I ain't about to be diplomatic about that

[Ozzie]

(jimbo34 @ Dec. 23 2009,21:57) Toorot: answer is none.

Ivor (and anybody else) 500Bt = 2 beers + 2 Ladydrinks! I ain't about to be diplomatic about that

So not a single customer walked in and bar fine without buying drink?

So because nobody is doing what you don't want them to do, you bring in this new policy.

Make sense to me NOT

[jimbo34]

No, because we insist on 500Bt bin. Nobody pays 900Bt barfine!

You making a separate thread about this makes sense to me - NOT!

[Ozzie]

(jimbo34 @ Dec. 23 2009,22:19) No, because we insist on 500Bt bin. Nobody pays 900Bt barfine!

You making a separate thread about this makes sense to me - NOT!  

I made a separate thread so that your C&D would not be polluted by these discussions. I guess you would have preferred I put it in there?

Seem you have not understood Torurots' question as he was referring to before the policy change, which was clear to me at least in his question.

[Guest]

Jimbo.... 500 bt is bullshit money.....

but Im trying to see how others are looking at it like a condition when you've put it in black & white......

my opinion is maybe rephrase it something else like

FOR 1000BT YOU TAKE HOSTESS & GET 5 DRINKS FREE

I feel this sounds like more of an offer you cant miss....

again this is just my opinion.... but i still feel even if Im going to my local pub 500bt is nothing....

[Nemisis]

Jimbo has a good point here........ and WTF is 500 baht ....2 drinks each for you and the talent you are chatting too. The bar has to be supported first....... no bar no meeting point to pick up your reliable talent.

Jimbo has to pay their monthly salary, that's where the bar-fine comes in, and doesn't make the bar owner any richer. 9 times out of 10 in low season, she might have only a few off's, which may not cover her salary, so the bar owner has to make up the difference from the revenue from the drinks sold.

It would amaze you about the unwritten rules in a lot of bars, with no signs publicizing the facts.

I have a mate that owns a bar in Pattaya, who gives strict instructions to his staff that a customer must buy a couple of drinks before paying the bar....... not only that he instructed them if the punter wanted more than one night, they may not come alone to pay the bar the next night, but had to bring the customer with them, so he is able to sell a couple of drinks into the bargain.... if she cant then a deduction comes out of her salary. Remember the next time she asks "You go my bar tonight"

[Ivor Biggun]

(jimbo34 @ Dec. 23 2009,16:57) Toorot: answer is none.

Ivor (and anybody else) 500Bt = 2 beers + 2 Ladydrinks! I ain't about to be diplomatic about that

I'm not disputing the amount,(we both know it's insignificant at the end of the day) just that the sign in it's present form would get some people's backs up. If I walked into a bar in Patts and saw a sign like that I'd turn around and walk out to be honest. I'm not trying to fall out with you, just trying to give a neutral opinion. I'm not sure what the fluffier version could be  though

Now here's a suggesion- line up 5 guys with 5 drinks on one side of the bar, Donut on the other. Donut takes off one item of clothing, first to the post gets it, and so on for 5 drinks. First guy with 5 bits of kit gets her barfine and disappears, last across the line pay's Jimbo's barfine, now there's an incentive  

[Socrates999]

Jimbo-

"Not every punter for a variety of very good reasons wants a belly full of drinks before a "Bar fine". Many girls don't want a pissed parrot for a punter either. If you go and barfine a short time *early* in the evening you are in a no win with the new C&D policy. So if you come back to the bar after an hour or two happy visiting, do you get "free drinks" to the value of the 500Bhat drink tickets you purchased earlier??

So what was that "no drink %" Jimbo??"

2 simple questions that J-bo spends more time dancing around than answering.

So far, the answer seems to kinda cut through the usual bullshit "The purpose of the barfine is to compensate the bar for lost ... blah blah blah".

If she goes back 1-2 hours later, you really haven't "lost" anything now, have you?

Why not just be a man and admit that you're trying to squeeze as much money as possible from every customer of your, I'm sure, world-class, room-less brothel? You're a capitalist, a businessman, nothin' wrong with that. Just stop trying to put lipstick on a pig.

Best LB bar in the world? That's rich.

[batman4ever]

Jimbo...cant you change the rule so that the costumer would only be alloved to spend the 500.....that would certanly save me some money...

naaah...joke aside...after what iwe seen regardings BM`s this rule would never be affected...why?? cause they all stay there longer and loves to chat...

my best guess is that the rules are to people like "the snake" and others that just benefit from the bars effort...and dont make ANY contributions.....

and i rather prefer an "open" sign...than a girl with a hidden agenda,that might give me an lousy service if i fails to fullfill her qouta...

[Socrates999]

(Nemisis @ Dec. 23 2009,17:58) Jimbo has a good point here........ and WTF is 500 baht ....2 drinks each for you and the talent you are chatting too. The bar has to be supported first....... no bar no meeting point to pick up your reliable talent.

Jimbo has to pay their monthly salary, that's where the bar-fine comes in, and doesn't make the bar owner any richer. 9 times out of 10 in low season, she might have only a few off's, which may not cover her salary, so the bar owner has to make up the difference from the revenue from the drinks sold.

It would amaze you about the unwritten rules in a lot of bars, with no signs publicizing the facts.

I have a mate that owns a bar in Pattaya, who gives strict instructions to his staff that a customer must buy a couple of drinks before paying the bar....... not only that he instructed them if the punter wanted more than one night, they may not come alone to pay the bar the next night, but had to bring the customer with them, so he is able to sell a couple of drinks into the bargain.... if she cant then a deduction comes out of her salary. Remember the next time she asks "You go my bar tonight"

Plenty of bars not charging a 900 baht BF and not going broke. Perhaps there are some successful alternative business models out there. And, "... and WTF is 500 baht" works both ways.

What would amaze me would be girl not having a BF quota, against which wages would be docked if she did not meet it AND which would more than cover her salary if she did.

How about naming your friend's Pattaya bar so we can all give him the support he deserves? Maybe he should invest in some shock collars to make sure that his girls don't stray off to Samui or somewhere for a couple of days.

[Bumpa STIKKA]

Poor old Jimbo!

This seems to be one of those 'policies' that is pinned to a bar wall to be enacted in extreme cases only.

Now it has seen the light of day because the forum...

For fucks sake people, relax.

I doubt that this so called 'policy' ever affects anyone except the extreme toss pots who can't afford bottled water!

In fact this protects the girls as much as the bar!

[Socrates999]

Geez, I must have been drunk when I posted all that shit 2 hours ago!

I've actually heard so many good things about Jimbo that I'm sure I'd like him if I met him!