A kinder gentler Britain!

[allstar88]

(tsadmirer @ Jun. 22 2007,22:45) Respected members

I am a muslim and I am from Pakistan. Yes I know the very first question will be "Then what the fuck are you doing here?". Please bear with me if you can. My answer to this question is that I can't help myself attracting towards these lovely creatures of God i.e. ladyboys. Although, I have no real experience with a ladyboy yet but I do enjoy reading the posts on this board and watching the pics. Call me sinner, bad muslim, liar, hypocrite - anything that makes you feel better.  
The reason to write my thoughts is NOT to preach my religion NOR protecting other muslims but just a try to convince (I'm pretty sure I will fail) people here that there are some muslims in the world who think pragmatically and respect other's feeling/cultures. I have been to UK many times and I swear to God that I really really like british people because they are a tolerant nation. I run a software company and we are 5 business partners. Two of my business partners are british. One is chritstian and the other is a Jew. The purpose of telling you all this is that during any conversation about non-muslims, myself and my pakistani business partners always support non-muslims and argue with people having fanatic mindset. I usually ask them if they think killing a non-muslim is true Islam then what about the large protests that held worldwide against war in Iraq and Afghanistan. Those people in that protest were mostly non-muslims and they were on the streets to save muslims. Are they evil?? Do you think only muslims have the right to live??? Ofcourse a fanatic has no answer instead I am labelled as off-track, liberal and bad mulim often. What I have concluded is that it's not Islam that is wrong, we have extreme shortage of educated religious leaders who can think out of the box and we have a very large muslim population that is illiterate so when everything else fail, use religion card and you are a winner. That's what most people are doing in Pakistan either for their political parties or for their personal benefits.

Last month, I read news in the local newspaper that a priest was beaten because he stands in the market and start preaching christanity. This news made me so furious that I started questioning myself that what kinda country am I living in? If in this country, a person can preach Islam in mosques and on the road, why not a priest? Again, I am not telling you all this to assure you that what a kind and good person I am but just to tell you that not all muslims are fanatics.

I have seen posts here on this board and I think every one of you have bad experience with muslims. I am ready to get the bashing from you people but I couldn't stop myself to write my thoughts on this forum.  

If you have reached this far, Thanks a million for your patience.

well said sir if only more muslims were like you  

[Torurot]

Tomcat said: >>About half of UK Muslims think the July bombing was a hoax. I rub shoulders with these guys every day and what i hear isnt pretty...Of course there are exceptions as our friend above makes clear but he isnt the general angry persona that i see around me>>

So why are they so angry??? Why?

[TTChang]

(tsadmirer @ Jun. 22 2007,22:45) I am a muslim and I am from Pakistan. Yes I know the very first question will be "Then what the fuck are you doing here?". Please bear with me if you can. My answer to this question is that I can't help myself attracting towards these lovely creatures of God i.e. ladyboys.

I for one welcome tsadmirer, and his comments!

[Tomcat]

(Torurot @ Jun. 24 2007,19:29) So why are they so angry??? Why?

Drink
Drugs
Gambling
Women in revealing clothes
Porn
The whole banking system
Christianity
Democracy
freedom of speech
Iraq
Afganistan
The USA
The UK
Europe
Israel

The list is endless, just go to a sermon and listed to the bile that these immams throw out...

And Envy because they have done fuck all for as long as anyone can remember

[TTChang]

(jimslim @ Jun. 21 2007,03:45) Enock lives  

As Enoch was my first MP when I got the vote, I get to have a say!       Proves:  I'm of a certain age - fucking old!  And have lived in an area of the uk with many immigrants.  And I used to protest against his views  

But I think now, after seeing something of the world, that I try to keep an open mind.  I have met good/bad Pakistanis, Aussies, American, Eurotrash (bad), Thais.   England has a lot to offer, but    for me from now on .....   scams or not!  

I'm selling up in the UK  

[nigel69]

It's a pity that the U.K. has sunk so low. Since Churchill was not elected ,at the end of WW2 ,the downhill slide began.Since the Brits decided that the Commonwealth was to costly and they opened the doors to these barbarians, they sowed the seeds of their own future destruction.Thankfully my parents migrated to Oz in 1957.We currently have about 300,000 Muslims from backward, fucked up, worthless, violent societies and just like in the U.K. we now have to spend countless millions keeping an eye on our "multicultural" friends.Various other fanatics have been jailed for planning terrorist attacks down here, but thankfully we have a Conservative Party in power.They stopped the boatloads of Muslims trying to sneak into Australia, via our sleazy Indonesian muslim friends and made it clear that we will not tolerate Illegal immigrants. I am proud of my British birth, but feel great sorrow about the "Euroleft" trash that has controlled the immigration agenda for way to long.
As for the contribution from the member from Pakistan, if he "came out" in his home Country his head would be on a stick by now.The problem is that the majority of the Muslim population ( as in Australia) let the radicals set the agenda and I suspect that it is because they are shit scared of the fanatics/fatwahs, etc within their own communities.Speak out against the supporters of Bin Laden,Hezbollah,Islamic Jihad,the Taliban ( who are based in Pakistan) and you risk your life.
There is ,I fear, to much to do in these Countries, to ever deliver them from the scourge of religion.If the books and tv programmes of people like Richard Dawkins ( Root of all Evil)were ever allowed to be read in these stone age places, then a small start would have been made.
Enoch Powell has proved to be a true man of vision.

[donnnnnny]

moderation in all things particularly moderation
most of this rubbish is stirred up by the fucking media . the worst emeny of the world deatht o the media cut there heads of hang em high stone em. bring back public hangigs(media only)

[donnnnnny]

(nigel69 @ Jun. 25 2007,14:46) It's a pity that the U.K. has sunk so low. Since Churchill was not elected ,at the end of WW2 ,the downhill slide began.Since the Brits decided that the Commonwealth was to costly and they opened the doors to these barbarians, they sowed the seeds of their own future destruction.Thankfully my parents migrated to Oz in 1957.We currently have about 300,000 Muslims from backward, fucked up, worthless, violent societies and just like in the U.K. we now have to spend countless millions keeping an eye on our "multicultural" friends.Various other fanatics have been jailed for planning terrorist attacks down here, but thankfully we have a Conservative Party in power.They stopped the boatloads of Muslims trying to sneak into Australia, via our sleazy Indonesian muslim friends and made it clear that we will not tolerate Illegal immigrants. I am proud of my British birth, but feel great sorrow about the "Euroleft" trash that has controlled the immigration agenda for way to long.
As for the contribution from the member from Pakistan, if he "came out" in his home Country his head would be on a stick by now.The problem is that the majority of the Muslim population ( as in Australia) let the radicals set the agenda and I suspect that it is because they are shit scared of the fanatics/fatwahs, etc within their own communities.Speak out against the supporters of Bin Laden,Hezbollah,Islamic Jihad,the Taliban ( who are based in Pakistan) and you risk your life.
There is ,I fear, to much to do in these Countries, to ever deliver them from the scourge of religion.If the books and tv programmes of people like Richard Dawkins ( Root of all Evil)were ever allowed to be read in these stone age places, then a small start would have been made.
Enoch Powell has proved to be a true man of vision.

excellent post well said sir

[Tomcat]

(Stewart @ Jun. 23 2007,13:30) There ARE decent, law abiding people who are the majority in the muslim community. Your alarmist rubbish that implies that every single muslim chops of heads is just pathetic and laughable. I really pity you if you really believe that.

1)
Did you know that the Muslim council actually tried to build a Giant Mosque ( the biggest ever built) in the middle of the London Olympic site with the idea that muslims and non Muslims athletes would be segregated
The Saudis were going to bank roll the whole affair.

The building would have dominated the Skyline and Londinistan would have become a reality

Its called Apartheid

I think and hope that the planning permission was refused. These people DO NOT want to integrate..period

2) Ever worked in a Japanese bank. There is a glass ceiling where you cant break through to to upper management. Ever tried to get in a Japanese or Taiwan club.... you cant

Humans are just tribal and thats the reality....

[donnnnnny]

We in the west for some reason feel the need to cowtail to all the differet groups who come to our countrys.the furthur you bend the more they take.
I still feel most of this stuff is stirred up by irresponsible media
maybe im wrong and we are heading for civil unrest???

[stogie bear]

(donnnnnny @ Jun. 25 2007,16:20)

(nigel69 @ Jun. 25 2007,14:46) It's a pity that the U.K. has sunk so low. Since Churchill was not elected ,at the end of WW2 ,the downhill slide began.Since the Brits decided that the Commonwealth was to costly and they opened the doors to these barbarians, they sowed the seeds of their own future destruction.Thankfully my parents migrated to Oz in 1957.We currently have about 300,000 Muslims from backward, fucked up, worthless, violent societies and just like in the U.K. we now have to spend countless millions keeping an eye on our "multicultural" friends.Various other fanatics have been jailed for planning terrorist attacks down here, but thankfully we have a Conservative Party in power.They stopped the boatloads of Muslims trying to sneak into Australia, via our sleazy Indonesian muslim friends and made it clear that we will not tolerate Illegal immigrants. I am proud of my British birth, but feel great sorrow about the "Euroleft" trash that has controlled the immigration agenda for way to long.
As for the contribution from the member from Pakistan, if he "came out" in his home Country his head would be on a stick by now.The problem is that the majority of the Muslim population ( as in Australia) let the radicals set the agenda and I suspect that it is because they are shit scared of the fanatics/fatwahs, etc within their own communities.Speak out against the supporters of Bin Laden,Hezbollah,Islamic Jihad,the Taliban ( who are based in Pakistan) and you risk your life.
There is ,I fear, to much to do in these Countries, to ever deliver them from the scourge of religion.If the books and tv programmes of people like Richard Dawkins ( Root of all Evil)were ever allowed to be read in these stone age places, then a small start would have been made.
Enoch Powell has proved to be a true man of vision.

excellent  post  well said sir

The best post I've read here in a while.

[terryw]

The only thing that Enoch got wrong was that he never predicted that British born Muslims would be planting car bombs in central London and trying to blow up airport terminals.

If he had predicted what has happened this weekend the PC liberal elite would have put him in jail.

[Guest]

utter utter bollocks- racist fascist cunts.

i'm no fan of religion but if someone lives here no matter how long; they have just as much rights as me.
i'm really dissapointed to read such a bullshit topic on this forum. stoogie- i used to think ur moodiness was amuzing and 'witty', now i realize ur a cunt. the main problem with this topic is that it seems muslims are being associated with terrorists, and that is just plain ignorant. why don't u start a new BNP style forum to talk about this sick shit?

disclaimer: i'm a bit tired so if i've missed something aplogies lol

[nigel69]

"muslims being associated with terrorists", well there's a laugh.The last time I looked, the vast majority of current terrorists were proud to proclaim their Islamic ignorance. The usual cry of "racist"," fascist", etc has become the last refuge of the do nothing left liberal.As the entire World is in fact the same "race", this supposed insult has been used in error, by the left, for way to long.Currently it is the Islamofascists who wish to turn the U.K. into a stone age backwater, for mad Mullahs and ignorant immigrants.
What the "multiculturalists" don't realize is that they would be amongst the first to be hung from a crane, in the town square, if the vermin they continue to allow through the door, ever got their way.
Why doesn't Japan ( the Eastern equivalent of the U.K.)have these problems.It is because they have fiercely defended their culture and history from large scale immigration, from Countries that have no relevance or similarity, to their way of life. No Muslim Pakistani's, Indians,Africans,Asians, etc can be found there ( except for some very black guys who work the strip club doors)and do we say that they are "racist".
We get the same crap down here."Isn't it wonderful now that we can eat kebabs and drink Turkish coffee", cry our multicultural lovers.NO, isn't it a problem when Lebanese crime gangs control a large section of the drug trade, along with their Vietnamese friends.When Sudanese men , with aids, rape local women.The list is endless and I am sure it is the same in the U.K. only worse.
Wake up, before it is to late!!!!!

[Guest]

yet another sick post- fucking hell guys- this shit is just disturbing