A kinder gentler Britain!

[Tomcat]

My office is in East London and i am surrounded by Muslims. If you was to listen to some of these scumbag muslim taxi drivers who i have to listen to every day you realise that these guys are the enemy....they hate everything i stand for and complain all the time...

Every time is see the news and see more Taliban killed i rejoice and sip on the champagne...i hope the Army kill every last one of these vermin....

[tsadmirer]

Respected members

I am a muslim and I am from Pakistan. Yes I know the very first question will be "Then what the fuck are you doing here?". Please bear with me if you can. My answer to this question is that I can't help myself attracting towards these lovely creatures of God i.e. ladyboys. Although, I have no real experience with a ladyboy yet but I do enjoy reading the posts on this board and watching the pics. Call me sinner, bad muslim, liar, hypocrite - anything that makes you feel better.  
The reason to write my thoughts is NOT to preach my religion NOR protecting other muslims but just a try to convince (I'm pretty sure I will fail) people here that there are some muslims in the world who think pragmatically and respect other's feeling/cultures. I have been to UK many times and I swear to God that I really really like british people because they are a tolerant nation. I run a software company and we are 5 business partners. Two of my business partners are british. One is chritstian and the other is a Jew. The purpose of telling you all this is that during any conversation about non-muslims, myself and my pakistani business partners always support non-muslims and argue with people having fanatic mindset. I usually ask them if they think killing a non-muslim is true Islam then what about the large protests that held worldwide against war in Iraq and Afghanistan. Those people in that protest were mostly non-muslims and they were on the streets to save muslims. Are they evil?? Do you think only muslims have the right to live??? Ofcourse a fanatic has no answer instead I am labelled as off-track, liberal and bad mulim often. What I have concluded is that it's not Islam that is wrong, we have extreme shortage of educated religious leaders who can think out of the box and we have a very large muslim population that is illiterate so when everything else fail, use religion card and you are a winner. That's what most people are doing in Pakistan either for their political parties or for their personal benefits.

Last month, I read news in the local newspaper that a priest was beaten because he stands in the market and start preaching christanity. This news made me so furious that I started questioning myself that what kinda country am I living in? If in this country, a person can preach Islam in mosques and on the road, why not a priest? Again, I am not telling you all this to assure you that what a kind and good person I am but just to tell you that not all muslims are fanatics.

I have seen posts here on this board and I think every one of you have bad experience with muslims. I am ready to get the bashing from you people but I couldn't stop myself to write my thoughts on this forum.  

If you have reached this far, Thanks a million for your patience.

[stogie bear]

Well done for posting and welcome to the forum...

It's a complicated issue and I think most people (me included) are worried about how 'outsiders' are changing their country. I don't want Mosques, because I like Churches better. But I don't believe in God. I don't understand people who do believe in God, either and I don't like people who think I should die because I don't believe in their God.

The other side is that most people don't have a sense of humor these days. Humor (racist and prejudiced humor included) is a good way to exorcise our demons and is for the most part harmless... Well - it used to be.

You are very welcome to this forum and you can talk religeon all you like, too. But the most important thing is getting over here to Bangkok for some ladyboy sin! And when you get here I'll be one of the first in line to buy you a beer... (if you drink, that is!)

[katoeylover]

Great post TSAdmirer, and welcome.

I think Stogie has it right, Muslims are more than welcome here until they start telling us how to do things in our country.

We are a tolerant nation and sometimes that is taken as we allow people to walk all over us. Then it will get to a point where all are tarred with the same brush, and immigration will be barred.

The secret is life is everything in moderation, religion included.

[stogie bear]

Another foreign nutfuck is alllowed on the British streets to kill normal people...

A man who killed a Tube passenger by pushing him in front of a train has been jailed indefinitely.

There should be a dead or alive bounty on every illegal immigrant and related family member in the UK. simple and effective. 1,000 Pounds cash for every dead illegal and 500 if he or she is still alive.

[Stewart]

(stogie bear @ Jun. 23 2007,09:15) Another foreign nutfuck is alllowed on the British streets to kill normal people...

A man who killed a Tube passenger by pushing him in front of a train has been jailed indefinitely.

There should be a dead or alive bounty on every illegal immigrant and related family member in the UK. simple and effective. 1,000 Pounds cash for every dead illegal and 500 if he or she is still alive.

Please tell me that post was a joke

[Stewart]

The reason to write my thoughts is NOT to preach my religion NOR protecting other muslims but just a try to convince (I'm pretty sure I will fail) people here that there are some muslims in the world who think pragmatically and respect other's feeling/cultures.

TSadmirer - well done for posting that.

Yes you will fail with a fair number of the regular posters here. Some of us, however, would agree with what you said above. Your group is getting a pretty bad press over recent years, and you have some big internal modernisation issues to grapple with - I just hope people like you win that argument.

For the rest of you ignorant, racist twats that have posted the racist/religious shit here, I hope that post makes you sit back and think just for 1 minute, because the sort of infantile, simplistic crap that you post just fuels the problem.

There ARE decent, law abiding people who are the majority in the muslim community. Your alarmist rubbish that implies that every single muslim chops of heads is just pathetic and laughable. I really pity you if you really believe that.

[tsadmirer]

I am overwhelmed by emotions and with tears in my eyes (honestly) after reading the replies. All I can say at the moment is THANK YOU ALL.

[stogie bear]

My problem with foreigners is ENTIRLY with the ones who live in Britain and want to change it.

ALL people who live outside the UK can do what they like. I don't give two hoots about how nice or evil they are, but stay away from the UK if you don't want to be British.

It should be a crime for foreigners to change anything in a country that they are not a apart of or from. As for the bounty idea - it's not a joke (apart from the dead or alive bit.) They should be rounded up by the good citizens of the UK and deported without trial. If they don't have any documentation then they should be jailed till it magically appears.

Britain is just a magnet for rapists, organized crime and deadbeats. Why should the Brits suffer because other countries are crap?

My opinions are far from extremist, too. You'll find a good many law abiding citizens would like to reclaim back what is left of the UK...

[Torurot]

Tsadmirer, Pity more Muslims were not like you. It's hard to speak up with a voice of moderation when you are surrounded on all sides by extremists and fanatics. On the other hand probably there ARE far more moderate Muslims, the media, especially MSM just fails point blank to give them a voice.

[Tomcat]

(Torurot @ Jun. 23 2007,20:44) probably there ARE far more moderate Muslims

Dont kid yourself...

About half of UK Muslims think the July bombing was a hoax. I rub shoulders with these guys every day and what i hear isnt pretty...Of course there are exceptions as our friend above makes clear but he isnt the general angry persona that i see around me

Believe me, parts of London i would not consider part of the UK by any measure...

What i cant understand is why people who dont like western values want to stay here in the first place.
This country has an Anglo- Celtic history thats is 1000s of years old and in 50 years time it will be gone

Do you think the Saudis will let you go and build churches in there country. Its seems that every other countries History is sacred except the poor old UK

Poor old John Bull must be turning in his grave...

[stogie bear]

Poor old John Bull must be turning in his grave...

...and every soldier who died in the two world wars. They died for absolutely NOTHING.

[Tomcat]

100%

Even the Daily Telegraph has an article today in the centre by Simon Heffer who makes the point that the way some working class white people are treated would be a national outrage if they were an ethnic minority.....

I just walked yesterday through a town outside London and i doubt if i see one Anglo Saxon.

Poles, Pakistanis, Bulgarians, Gypsies.....but no English
. And lets remember that the EU floodgates have barely opened yet... in 5-10 years time there will be civil unrest like you have never seen witness to..i will put money on it...

[stogie bear]

A black man steals a car and kills an Asian man in the UK...

Come one, come all... it's open season here in the UK!

Wanna sell drugs? Sure... Wanna beat up people and knife them for a laugh? You betcha...

Come from your crappy country and just do what the fuck you want to. No worries, mate...

[allstar88]

(stogie bear @ Jun. 23 2007,09:15) Another foreign nutfuck is alllowed on the British streets to kill normal people...

A man who killed a Tube passenger by pushing him in front of a train has been jailed indefinitely.

There should be a dead or alive bounty on every illegal immigrant and related family member in the UK. simple and effective. 1,000 Pounds cash for every dead illegal and 500 if he or she is still alive.

dont hold back stogie say what you feel