Thailand lb vs Phillipines lb

[Lefty]

I do not totally agree on the better surgery in Thailand. Not as many PI lbs can afford breast implants, they typically don't make as much money unless they are p4p, and implants cost more there, but the ones I've seen look better than most of the Thai boob jobs.

[Lefty]

One major difference to me between the Thai and PI lbs is asking for money long distance. Not all PI lbs do this, but I would estimate at least half do, in my experience. If they do not flat out request it, for any one of a vast myriad of reasons, they will continually drop hints to that effect.
As for the Thai lbs, the ones I keep in touch with off and on, when I'm not there, I have never had any of them ask me to send them money for any reason.

[azza33]

It a sad indictment on a lot of PI LB you meet on the net... the requests for money are disgusting - they seem to almost lack pride.

It's a shame because there are lots of nice LBs in PI, and we are lucky to have a few active ones on our board - but i think their behaviour of the money grubbing types puts a lot of people off the PI LB.

[Guest]

i dont agree and i do not disagree, its pretty usual situation for lb wherever she comes from to ask for money, take note that majority of lb thailand or philippines are not really having the oppurtunity to have a stable, good paying job, it is either they work p4p, or look a for a foreign guy to support them, and it is all about trust , there is nothing wrong to help financially, especially if you are helping someone who is close to you, or somehow you consider a friend... though it becomes really wrong if you're helping for a wrong reason and if asking money is abusive.

now, if you still choose to give money,abusive or not, it is up to you, you can always say 'no', and if she stays away from you for that reason, then she is not worth for you. dump her!!!

AND, if you once, twice or many times helped a girl, and you felt like you were abused
financially, it was your fault, because you allowed her to do it so.

[B]dont come here, and shouting out what happened, making generalization towards the whole community, and being bitter to every PI lb u meet. AFTER ALL IT WAS ALL YOUR FAULT!

[alan1chef]

That was my point too originally. If you make wrong choices, you pay the price. If you allow yourself to be taken advantage of, there is nobody to blame except yourself...don't blame PI ladyboys for something that was your fault to begin with, then randomly blast away at the Philippines in general....while bragging about your website which still has many pics of the Philippines...guess you don't really hate it that much...do you?

[Guest]

yes alan, i noticed that as well,he doesnt really hate philippines, or pi ladyboys, or me,( anyway foxee, i never said that u are not handsome, not from my mouth, but i do admit that u look good if thats your picturE. i CHALLENGED you and tried to PUSH you to your limit because i noticed certain hatred for pi ladyboys, foxee i am not ignorant if you think so, and i am not trying to be smart, i assume u think that i am also, and i did not come here to crash everyone and try to make silly fights, i just answered each posts that i felt bad about, coz of personal attacks)   there must be something that really happened to him, an experience that caused this bitterness,
it could not just him, and it is fact i would also not deny, that many ladyboys ARE  being abusive when it comes to asking for money, but we have to consider every circumstance and wisely weigh things out, or else the process of abuse will continue.

taking this idea of abuse to one, two, or three specific ladyboys for example, is absolutely unfair!

[f0xxee]

Oh, are you talking to me Alan? Shaggy?

Perhaps you chaps in chaps need to read the large number of websites and forum that spell out "Do not spend money to people you meet through the internet"

So therefore you two see scamming and internet begging as a legitimate means of employment and all fair game? Then it's fair game to tell the world what a bunch of scam artistes you lot are....

See the thing is Shaggy, and I am going to assume you are a PI ladyboy here, is that you are conditioned to believe that laziness and begging are socially and ethically ok. No Shaggy, in most countries it is not ok. If I hear one more Filipino bleating about the lack of opportunieites compared to elsewhere I will puke. But you lot shoot yourselves in the foot don't you? You got to have a scam, don't you? Lets use education for an example:

You have good education possibilities, but you then degrade the very process, by selling degrees and qualifications out the back door, rendering the persons who have worked hard for the same bit of paper with qualifications that are essentially worthless. (or they have to requalify). It is harder for Filipino nurses and dentists to get work than ever before. Why? becuase you blew it with selling qualifications. You bloody idiots.

I stood in the Panamanian Embassy in Singapore one day, and watched a Merchant Navy Master come in with the crew books of his Filipino Officers and Engineers. 6 out of the 10 were fraudulent (The panama embassy can check numbers etc) leaving the Captain without a crew. he was not happy.

Begging and bleating on the internet shows your country for the piss poor Nigeria of Asia that it is. If you lot put in the same hours on the internet doing many of the free learning courses etc that are available then I might have some respect for you.

Get some fucking pride. And stop voting for the latest movie star or big 5 family members. Maybe then some of the money that disappears might go into education and training.

Ah, my dear friend Alan the Apologist:

I dont believe I was bragging about my website to anyone Alan. I merely pointed out that there was photos of me on there should Mister Cancer wish to check. But I am so pleased you took the invitation to check me out Alan... Did you get a little Chef woody looking at me hmmmmm? Did your little "Chef's hat" get all starchy?

I don't hate the Philippines Alan. I hate begging, bleating, "oh woe is me" lazy mutherfuckas who think the world owes them a living. I hate the same lazy scammers be they from Nigeria, or Albania or Australia (Oh yes, us "Wife -beaters" as you so hilariously called us on another thread. You witty little man you. Are you perchance a soap-dodger? I do hope you wash before you cook.)

As for photos of the Philippines on my website yes there are. There are also photos of three legged dogs and Ducatis Alan. I think my mum is on there too. I must check.

Have a nice day Alan. Don't burn the water.

[f0xxee]

Sorry shaggy,

I have perhaps over stepped the mark, I was infuriated with Alan's post below yours and you may have been collateral damage.

No not all PI ladyboys are slack, or lazy or beggars. I have a couple of really good GF's from there that I put my heart out to.

My problem is that nearly every ladyboy dating site is overwhelmed with PI ladyboys on the make.

I will assume you are not one of them Shaggy, and that you are honest in your efforts to find a good guy to love you and care for you. But it must make it hard for you when most guys have to run a gauntlet of the scammers before they get a chance to meet the few good and genuine girls in the PIs.

Can you not see that the vast majority of scammers are ruining it for the good girls that want love only?

My apologies if I was personally aggessive before. I was over the mark to you and I apologise.

[Guest]

foxee... we are not saying that scamming or internet begging are socially ok... i agree it is a very sad fact, and it should not be tolerated.


but we cant also deny that there are many foreign, well-off guys who are more than willing to give some penny for these lb scammers or beggars, honey, what we are trying to say is there will be no scammers or beggars if there are no people who will allow themselves be scmmaed or be begged.


anyway foxee... it is me cancer...

[Guest]

yes, foxee. i do agree, you are very right about what you said

"I will assume you are not one of them Shaggy, and that you are honest in your efforts to find a good guy to love you and care for you. But it must make it hard for you when most guys have to run a gauntlet of the scammers before they get a chance to meet the few good and genuine girls in the PIs.
Can you not see that the vast majority of scammers are ruining it for the good girls that want love only?

it is very hard to find the right guy to love and to give your heart to, because when they are the right one for you, they are stucked with the wrong one...

but this is a reality, that we cannot get rid of, scammers will always be around, and we have no choice, because we are sharing the world with them... foxee, that is the bitter part of being a ladyboy, transsexual or transgender, do you think, if our society is not what it is, do you think that if our society treats ladyboys same as men or women, no struggles, no discriminations, will be given more chance of education, employment not p4p, do you think they will choose to scam, to fool or to take advantage of other people, i'm sure they wont.

now, it will still boil down to what i and alan said that, right now, the most possible thing that we can do
is do not allow to be scammed, there is nothing wrong to give if it is right, but too much, and abusive asking money is soo wrong.

[laputanegra]

(shaggy @ Apr. 15 2009,13:05) that is the bitter part of being a ladyboy, transsexual or transgender, do you think, if our society is not what it is, do you think that if our society treats ladyboys same as men or women, no struggles, no discriminations, will be given more chance of education, employment not p4p, do you think they will choose to scam, to fool or to take advantage of other people, i'm sure they wont.

Society may not be fair to transgender but it is not an excuse to scam money just because the society is not fair and you can't get a job or a proper education. there are a lot of ways to earn money its just up to you if you want to do it the right way don't blame the society for your misfortune work your ass off and you will be rewarded.

[Stogie]

Amen to that sister!

[Guest]

LAPUTANEGRA, I never said that the society and its prerogatives are excuse to scam people... read between lines...  and i never blame the society... besides... the people no particular group, men, women, transgenders, lesbians, homosexuals, they are the people, and they are the ones who created our society and what it has become. gets?


let us not be blinded by some ideological hypocrisy, it is very easy to say that it is up to the people to earn their livings, yes i agree LP that there are many ways we can earn our living, ways that are not socially condemned, but for example... in our society LP, in the philippines, u are aware about some stories of ladyboys, at the young age, they had to move out of the house, away from their families because of their sexuality, LP i know a lot who are from a good family, their parents can support all the way up to the last semester in college, but as far as they came out, and felt the need to pursue and complete their being... they had to move out of their house, and support themselves...  it is not easy... we have this saying in filipino "KAPIT SA PATALIM"...

AND  even those who are in college, or finished college, LP i am in fourth year this coming sem, but to tell you honestly, i am not sure about getting the right job that i want, and that is appropriate to what i ahve been studying... because social ostracism and gender stratification always cause a lot of Lbs i know total gender discrimination....

again... please dont be mistaken that i agree wtih lbs in online scamming... I DONT AGREE! but i will never blame them... they are also victims. ( but again there are exemptions)

[laputanegra]

(shaggy @ Apr. 15 2009,14:05)  and i never blame the society... besides... the people no particular group, men, women, transgenders, lesbians, homosexuals, they are the people, and they are the ones who created our society and what it has become. gets?

(shaggy @ Apr. 15 2009,13:05) that is the bitter part of being a ladyboy, transsexual or transgender, do you think, if our society is not what it is, do you think that if our society treats ladyboys same as men or women, no struggles, no discriminations, will be given more chance of education, employment not p4p, do you think they will choose to scam, to fool or to take advantage of other people, i'm sure they wont.

Oh yeah. you didn't

[Guest]

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