Crazy Transsexuals

[Fred_Nguyen]

My view is that real nutters within the transsexual world are VERY common. Not everyone, but a majority, IMHO.

This post by Foggy describes a particularly crazy incident. And the funny thing is, I did not bat an eye or doubt it for a second. That sort of thing goes on all the time.

Any one else have any strong views or crazy incidents they can share?

Foggy got the fuck out of Dodge, but it begs the question, why do the relationship-minded put up with this shite? Or are the relationship-minded just so lucky as to find true love AND a sane transsexual?

[statuesque]

(Fred_Nguyen @ Jan. 20 2008,04:46) Or are the relationship-minded just so lucky as to find true love AND a sane transsexual?

... its probably just that.  


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[Naang Faa]

Fred,
Of course your going to find the odd bod within our community..
But most of the guys here only experience of Transsexuals are working
girls where sadly drugs,bitterness and mistrust abound..
If you never noticed these girls are usually smaller and weaker than
their customers and loud noises and bizarre threats are defensive as
well as offensive..
I've yet to meet a TS who i would consider anywhere crazy..and i know many,
admittedly only on a friendship level..I've seen girls go on drugs,off the rails.
clean themselves up,and straighten out,back to decent girls again...
Do you honestly think,if there was a forum for guys who use the same GG hookers
there would not be story's like Foggy's?
It's not a Transsexual problem but the "business" they're in...

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[PigDogg]

I think relationship minded guys value calm, stable, jai dee, qualities in their TS girl friends.

As far as unstable, I'd sure have problems if I was discriminated against my entire life. And I'm sure hormones would make me moody. I even get grumpy if hungry.

[Fred_Nguyen]

(Naang Faa @ Jan. 20 2008,05:39) Fred,
       Of course your going to find the odd bod within our community..
 But most of the guys here only experience of Transsexuals are working
 girls where sadly drugs,bitterness and mistrust abound..
 If you never noticed these girls are usually smaller and weaker than
 their customers and loud noises and bizarre threats are defensive as
 well as offensive..
 I've yet to meet a TS who i would consider anywhere crazy..and i know many,
 admittedly only on a friendship level..I've seen girls go on drugs,off the rails.
 clean themselves up,and straighten out,back to decent girls again...
 Do you honestly think,if there was a forum for guys who use the same GG hookers
 there would not be story's like Foggy's?
 It's not a Transsexual problem but the "business" they're in...
                                                                                                 
                                                                                                     x

I don't know... Perhaps you see a different side, or have different sort of interaction, being a woman. Most of the transgender women I've known are not prostitutes and therefore I'm hesitant to attribute looniness to a particular occupation.

Gender variant people are not all that uncommon and are not necessarily relegated to working as prostitutes. Still, there seems to me to be a greater frequency of borderline personalities and almost paranoidly jealous people who are transgender...

And again, I'm not saying all are crazy.

[Fred_Nguyen]

(PigDogg @ Jan. 20 2008,05:43) As far as unstable, I'd sure have problems if I was discriminated against my entire life.  And I'm sure hormones would make me moody.  I even get grumpy if hungry.  

It's reasonable to surmise that constant discrimination may drive neurotic behaviour.

Hormones? Everyone has those.

Female hormones... well then we'd really be saying all females are nutters, which isn't the case. Further, most TS women are supposed to be on a stable daily dose and therefore are not susceptible to the hormonal fluctuations and withdrawals that characterise menstrual-cycle associated emotional fits.

[SwoonTV]

i think u should rename this - "are all prozzies nutters"

[Fred_Nguyen]

(SwoonTV @ Jan. 20 2008,06:53) i think u should rename this - "are all prozzies nutters"

Given that if a T* person really wants to, she does not HAVE to work as a prostitute accepting the hot beef injection in any given orifice for a price.

Even in Thailand this is true.

So there must be some sort of pathology that drives that career choice, whether it's laziness, craziness or some other issue I don't know.

[SwoonTV]

i believe that not all T's are whores, and not all GG's either. or is there something i'm missing?

[Fred_Nguyen]

(SwoonTV @ Jan. 20 2008,07:41) i believe that not all T's are whores, and not all GG's either. or is there something i'm missing?

Maybe a few Leydig cells, I don't know.

[Monkey]

(Fred_Nguyen @ Jan. 19 2008,22:50) Female hormones... well then we'd really be saying all females are nutters...

They are though, aren't they?

Monkey.

(not bitter and twisted at all, uh, no siree)

[statuesque]

I dont suppose that there is a higher degree of craziness thats unique to the TG community. Any guy or girl can be like that as well.  

Id have to agree with the lovely Miss Naang Faa that its probably the type of industry theyre in that pushes them to this type of personality. As I dont have any friends at all in that industry, I can only speak with a fair share of assumption from my part (hey, girls do that all the time anyway *giggles*).  

Being in that industry seems like having a dog-eats-dog kind of mentality. Not only does it pose such high risks, but the game of "survival of the prettiest" (essential to an industry as such) is enough to drive some of them to slice their bodies open and fill them up with banned chemical products (translation: black market surgeries).

As with having the choice not to be in that industry, I wouldnt know about that. In some instances, people dont have choices at all. Like being transgendered, as an example. Were just born this way. Although Im not saying they were born to be working girls!
Its already difficult enough to transition to become female, I think being "marketable" as well just does the trick.  


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[newwriter]

(Fred_Nguyen @ Jan. 20 2008,06:59)

(SwoonTV @ Jan. 20 2008,06:53) i think u should rename this - "are all prozzies nutters"

Given that if a T* person really wants to, she does not HAVE to work as a prostitute accepting the hot beef injection in any given orifice for a price.

Even in Thailand this is true.

So there must be some sort of pathology that drives that career choice, whether it's laziness, craziness or some other issue I don't know.

Fred, I believe you're actually either taking an opposite view to your original post of coming around to a more reasonable position on this.

You point out that trannies don't have to choose to be prostitutes. Quite right, they don't. But perhaps the ones that do, evidently the cross section you are citing for your bullshit premise, are the crazies?

As Naang Faa and SwoonTV pointed out, it's more likely a man, woman or tranny who chooses to sell their body is less well adjusted than those who don't. And once that decision is made the psychological problems the job brings with it lead to drugs, guilt and more errant behaviour.

As SwoonTV said, perhaps the topic should be re-labled "are all prozzies nutters?" or perhaps "Does making judgements on an entire section of a community based on limited interraction with a small subset who have special problems make me a stupid bastard or a bigoted arsehole?".

Nah, it's too wordy, it'll never catch on.

[peterpan]

If you look at this from a much broader point of observation, 2 things holds true for all of us.

1. We are ALL pre-programmed the second we leave our mothers, instantly our ways of thinking are formed, from our parents and their ways of thinking, which may not serve us at all, in fact most cases it doesn't... Later in life we think and act e.g. about money the same way they do/did, however, that's the lesson's we most work through in order to find our own way. Look at people on welfare in the western world, many of them are 2nd, 3rd, even 4th generations on welfare, quite nutty, some would say......

2. We are ALL influenced heavily with the people we choose to surround ourselves with, this is very easily spotted in big corporations, where everyone in some departments look like they all have lost the plug at times :-).... some would call it corporate culture.....

So, IMHO, are there a bigger % of TS who are completely nuts; it would seems like that, at least where the majority of the members here go and find them and interact with them, because of their environment and the people they surround themselves with (pimps, boozers, weirdo's, people on substances) = they become like that too.

Take 99% of them OUT of this environment; and they would adjust and behave they way their new environment do, IF they stick to this new surroundings.... And some or many of them may not because of money or whatever, but that's a completely different belief that triggers that...

My 2 baht...

PP

[stogie bear]

How do you characterize 'craziness?'

I'm pretty sure a lot of rational transsexuals would consider the actions of most men pretty bizarre!

If you mean 'nutter' as in mentally unstable and a menace to themselves and/or others then I don't think the percentage is any higher than in any other demographic.

The proportion of crazy transsexual prostitutes is probably slightly higher than all prostitutes as a whole within their own country.

Mental instability amongst prostitutes is probably higher in the West (US, UK) where drug abuse fuels the industry rather than the other way around as in Asia.

The homeless probably have a much higher incidence of insanity and mental defectiveness than transsexuals...

What would you have to do to be construed as a 'nutter?'

Simply not understanding, liking or being like someone doesn't really make that other person crazy.

I think people who work non stop for 40 years of their lives then suddenly stop are crazy, but that's just me!