THE UGLY PART.

[dummy_plug]

Just don't go back to Thailand, or surely something bad will befall you.

[kahuna]

I applaud you for having the balls to come on here and post PM...
I suspect that this wasn't a very easy thing for you to do...

Cheers,

Kahuna

[Ladyboy_Loser!]

For now that's the safe and sane thing to do. I have already called everybody that was expecting to see me on Tuesday and explained the situation. I know that the ex knows what Hotel were we staying at prior to her SRS and since I always take the same EVA flight she could make trouble at the Airport. I figure that in January I can head back and avoid where her friends hang out so that they cannot alert her to this fact.
As for the house, car, shop, motorbikes? I have the lease registered, the car I did not fully pay for as I wanted to see if she was able to be financially responsible. Now we know how that worked out. The shop is in her name and the same for the motorbikes. However, she has no means of support, she spend money like it grew on trees and now cannot pay the bills. UBC will cut off service, the same for the electric bill, Toyota will soon come to repossess the pickup, she cannot give money to her parents or to her sisters for school. She cannot sell the house as the issue of the lease prevents that. Also my attorney has done this type of thing before for guys here in Surin. So here is what I am realistically looking at. In about a month or two she will suggest selling the house and for me to give her 1.5 to 2.0 million Baht to go away. She does not want to go back to the bars. Even if she did the loss of face among her fellow LB'S would be too much. She will want to keep the shop and the pickup and the only way to do this is to sell the house. There is no market in Surin for a Farang style house to be sold to a Thai person, her only shot will be for me to sell it through the Farang Connection and Sunbelt Asia to a Farang who is in the market for a home that comes fully furnished.
This is not that far fetched. We had a major blow up earlier this year and she was the one who realized that it is better to have a nice settlement and not have to head back to the bars and fucking twenty to thirty guys every month. She was the one who named the above payoff at the time. I have no problem with that, the home has had work done to it, it is a very nice home and I can find a buyer. I have no intention of ever making Surin my home as I value my life and good times way too much. If she wants to keep the shop, the pickup and have a nice nest egg her choices are rather limited. Time will tell, in the meantime I am going to extend my work here in California until after the New Year. I have friends who will keep me up to date and I will wait for the settlement offer. Should she decide otherwise I am prepared to walk away and wash my hands of this mess.

[stogie bear]

Settlement offer? Don't you think you've done enough?

Anyway - at least you made the effort, even if you didn't see the writing on the wall a long time before now.

She has obviously kept very close ties to all her hooker friends (of which I had no doubt about all along.) She simply doesn't want to escape from them and the 'scene.'

Motorbikes and houses in Surin and cheap. You can probably afford to leave al that crap behind. Shame you can't get the truck, but if you're not going back there, you'll have no need for it anyway.

The relationship was doomed in my eyes from when I heard there would be hookers at her wedding.

Still - you're alive for now and smart enough not to ever set foot in that shitty town or meet up with her (and her friends) ever again right?

[COIN FLIP]

When I called her out about spending all the money before paying the bills she told me that I should be giving her the same amount of money that Lisa's boyfriend gives her.

Everything you own now and in the future will never be enough. You are alive... be thankful.

[Stewart]

Settlement offer? Don't you think you've done enough?

Exactly. Why would you give her anything from the house sale? She can have the motorbike, pickup, shop.

[Ladyboy_Loser!]

I am grateful for getting out at this time. Thailand will be my home but for sure Surin is out of the question. I was there because it's near her family and I wanted to make her happy. I did meet up with a lot of great ex pats and I will miss shooting the breeze with them.
Because I wrote of the good times we had together and there were many of those I knew that it would good to tell about about the bad. That to me seemed only fair. There are a number of guys who might learn something from my efforts.
Wow, thinking more about it now I can go to Guess Bar and run amok. Watch out Nan, Ohm and Jane you will be at the top of my to do list. For sure I won't go near Nana as the Ladyboy Spy Network would go into overdrive if one of her friends saw me there. I don't fancy having a motorcycle taxi punk shoot me dead as I walk along Sukhumvit.
Someone wrote "Life is an adventure or it is nothing at all." My adventure continues. Take care guys, again thanks for the support when things were going good and now when it goes into the toilet.

[Fred_Nguyen]

(stogie bear @ Nov. 11 2007,10:27) Anyway - at least you made the effort, even if you didn't see the writing on the wall a long time before now.

She has obviously kept very close ties to all her hooker friends (of which I had no doubt about all along.) She simply doesn't want to escape from them and the 'scene.'

The relationship was doomed in my eyes from when I heard there would be hookers at her wedding.

I snickered a few weeks ago here and got called all sorts of nasty names, some of which was unfair. Since I'm a complete dick, I'm sure that katoueylover was being too kind to call me just a "dick-head". However, I did take exception to being called "ignorant", as that was an academic bearing his fangs.

Actually PogueMahone, I am very sorry to hear about all this. Breaking up really hurts, especially when a girl turns on a guy and intentionally tries to inflict pain.

There is always the idealistic hope among everyone listening, even myself a bit I confess, that such a relationship might be the one that lasts. But then its back to being a realist. It sounds like you have got a good bearing on the situation now, and I wish you the very best.

[PigDogg]

(PogueMahone @ Nov. 10 2007,20:49) I don't fancy having a motorcycle taxi punk shoot me dead as I walk along Sukhumvit.

Sorry to hear of your plight PM.

Why look over your shoulder in Bangkok?  Go to an out of the way place like Samui.  If Samui is not far enough away, then try Bali.

You went for your dream. Much better to have failed than not even trying!

[Guest]

I don't know your lawyers, but mine are extremely good, Thai, and pro-client (e.g., in my case, farang). They even told me each trick I could expect from a Thai and how to cover that loophole.

I also think most Thais forget pretty much every event in a matter of days, so her emotion will be gone in about 1 week. However, what you do have to worry about is family members, especially males, who have lost out in this deal, or could lose out (e.g., not getting some of the settlement). That is far more worrisome and not controllable, and that is where settlement might give peace of mind. I would even consider giving some small cash to the family and NOT her.

[stogie bear]

However, what you do have to worry about is family members, especially males, who have lost out in this deal, or could lose out (e.g., not getting some of the settlement). That is far more worrisome and not controllable, and that is where settlement might give peace of mind. I would even consider giving some small cash to the family and NOT her.

Good points...

If it's within your budget and your pride wouldn't suffer too much it's probably a good option if you are considering a life in Thailand.

[Guest]

Sorry to hear about you troubles PogueMahone it is indeed very messy .

First thing i would of done if she threw the fact that Lisa gets XXXXX amount of money , would be to throw it right back at her and say hang a minute Lisa's guy also supports 2 other girls and is a huge butterfly .

So that means if you match what Lisa gets you can do whatever you like and have that type of freedom ?No way she could live like that .

[SamplerDoc]

PM....
Sorry for the way it turned out Buddy.
At Least your wise enough to know what to do now.  Whatever she says or does to try to talk you into giving her a chance or pleading with you or giving you some sad story etc......  I am sure you are smart enough not to give in and believe her or give her another shot, right?

It takes balls to post the story and bigger balls to stay away.  Hope you can stand firm and do the smart thing Buddy.  I know for a fact its hard...Good Luck

[divertwo]

Sorry to hear the bad news and "shatter" the dream that was in many minds on this Forum I'm sure. I'm not sure what thread it was where someone was talking about what a good life he was providing for his LB girl friend/wife and how she was very lucky to have it all and would never turn away from him.........well, seems like what we think is a "no brainer" for these girls in reality doesn't fit the Thai thinking.............

[stogie bear]

I am a dream come true for any Thai Ladyboy who wants to get away from having to work the bars. Add in the fact that I am easy to look at, don't drink and get drunk, shower and shave on a daily basis, go to the Temple with her and family, treat her and Thai culture with the proper respect,

I suspect that I am all she could possibly want...

You mean THIS post which was written less than a week before it all came crashing down?