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  • THE UGLY PART.

    Wow, I am still in shock over the events of the past four days. As usual, I sent her the allowance for November by the 1st. No problem. On Sunday night, Thai time I called her to wish her a happy first wedding anniversary. She was excited and happy to remember that day. On Sunday night for me, Monday morning for her I called her again. While she was happy I knew by the tome of her voice that she was having troulbe telling me something. Finally she told me, she had already spent all the monthly allowance and she wanted more. I asked her if she had payed the bills and got a no answer. She told me some story about paying for her sister at the University and giving some money to her twin sisters for High School. I just told her that I was not going to deal with this news and would call her the next day.
    I did just that but she was at a wedding in her village and it was not a good situation for us to talk about this problem. On Tuesday I called her and from there it has all gone downhill very rapidly. When I called her out about spending all the money before paying the bills she told me that I should be giving her the same amount of money that Lisa's boyfriend gives her. Lisa claims that she gets 90,000Baht every month. Since face is very important Bow felt that she should have the same amount. Also, I was told that at the wedding she was talking with another friend who is married to a Farang and he has built a home for them, plus one for her family and given her two bank accounts. Now mind you there is not proof of either of these things being true but it did not matter to Bow. I was Kee-Nee-Ow, a sticky shit/cheap charlie. If I loved her I would give her whatever she wanted.
    Well guys you can guess how that went over with me. After all that I had done for her, with her operation just a week away she goes and does something so stupid that it's nearly unbelievable. I remained calm on the telephone and told her that if this is now she feels that I it would better for me not to come back to Bangkok as planned. She said that was fine, I could just do a bank transfer into her account to pay for the operation that was scheduled for the 14th. All she cared about at this point in time was her operation and not the fact that she had fucked up and was going to end up having nothing.
    I told her that no way was her operation going to happen now. Wow, let me tell you then can turn on you in Texas heartbeat. After the screeming and cursing I was told that something bad would happen to me. She would make sure that I would pay for her losing face and her family losing face. Gee, maybe she should have thought about that before doing something so stupid. In the past days I have been on the telephone with the Lawyer I have had on retainer in Surin alerting him to what has happened.
    It's now Friday night for me here in California, I was suppose to go back to Bangkok on Sunday night and meet her there. To say that I am a little bit shell shocked is an understatement to say the least. When I have to go back there is the real possibility that something bad could happen to me.
    There you have it guys. One day you are in Paradise, in love and not a care in the world. All seems to be in order, you have a beautiful ladyboy as your wife, you have a home, a car and motorbikes and she has a shop. Next thing you know it blows up in your face. I had not one clue that she could go off the deep end like this. For me, the money was not the issue. I could have upped the ante but when she told me that I did not love her and was a cheap charlie she crossed the line. Now she has to pay the price and face the consequences. She will not get another Baht from me, she will not be able to pay the bills for the home, the car the shop, nor give money to her family. Her choices are limited. Back to the bars she goes and with the Ladyboy grapevine she will be loose face with her Ladyboys. They will know that she fucked up. I feel sorry for her family, I did like them very much and this is going to effect them a lot.
    Thanks for your kind words and support during the past year. I know that I gave it my best shot and had hoped that maybe, just maybe, one of us could get it right in a long term married relationship.

  • #2
    (PogueMahone @ Nov. 09 2007,19:22) After all that I had done for her, with her operation just a week away she goes and does something so stupid that it's nearly unbelievable.
    Thai people have a very different view on what is important, and they think it is odd that we place so much value on "getting to the truth" and "living up to a deal". And it is frustrating to find out the real reason why a Thai is in a "relationship". Welcome to Thailand.

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    • #3
      Congratulations, you have just passed from eyes-wide-shut to eyes-wide-open.

      Several victims this week, join the club

      The 3 issues that most interfere with these cross-cultural relationships are face, the value of truth and the inextricable intertwining of love/money.There is not even a chance of success unless one is willing to step to the other side of the divide, because the only thing you can be sure about is that is that they will NEVER take a single step in your direction. Over and over again, the fact that these things blow up so quickly shows that there is virtually no substance behind their fluff. The whole damn country is a movie set- when you open a door to look behind the facade, you realize that there is nothing there.
      "The Ladyboy Collection- start yours today!"

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      • #4
        (PogueMahone @ Nov. 10 2007,09:22) I gave it my best shot and had hoped that maybe one of us could get it right in a long term married relationship.
        1000% impossible, the girl worked in a Bangkok go-go bar for Crissakes

           If a ladyboy or lady has worked in a bar for even one day any hope of any type of a long-term anything is just not possible, sorry. Their goals after that one day or one week or one year in the bar; fleece the white guy as much as possible, not one westerner is immune to this and if they think they are they are dreaming; no matter how much money, charm or whatever they have.

           even with a non-hooker it's 99% impossible.... why people even try is beyond me.... I  have a ladyboy friend living in Germany now, never worked in a bar and is a "nice girl" married to some German guy; I'll give her 2 years before she's back home in Rayong.

            Nice try man, but your plan was doomed from the start, sorry.....you wanna try it again get a non-hooker and you have at least that 1% chance.
        Guilt is Gods way of telling you you're having too much fun.
        -Dennis Miller

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        • #5
          Rule #1: When you enter a relationship in Thailand always assume you will lose everything you put into it: love, respect, trust, money, everything. Never let those sweet, young, beautiful things get your guard down lest you become like sailors encountering the Sirens of mythological lore. Remember that rule and enjoy the relationship and you will be just as happy if and when it ends as you were when it began.

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          • #6
            Well, to start with, this happens with western ladies, so throwing this on the woes of a Ladyboy, or a bar-worker, is crap.

            Divorce rates world-wide, I believe, exceed 50%, and Sweden is 67%. Do you think they all end joyfully? They all end the same way; like this. One day paradise, one day hell, even after many years together. Unfortunately, I would hesitate to guess most of us have experience with that.

            The only difference here is Thai reasons, i.e., money and face, which have nothing to do with a Ladyboy or a bar-worker. A young, immature, Thail lady will have the same ill-logic.

            If there is any good out of this, it is learning the bad side of someone faster rather than later, so your emotional and financial attachments don't create catastrophic results for you.

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            • #7
              So what happens to the house (land in her name presumably, with maybe a 30yr lease in yours) and the pickup (again probably in her name as you dont have work permit in Thailand)?

              Sad story but not surprising.

              Cheers
              Mardhi

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              • #8
                (mardhi @ Nov. 10 2007,16:09) So what happens to the house (land in her name presumably, with maybe a 30yr lease in yours) and the pickup (again probably in her name as you dont have work permit in Thailand)?

                Sad story but not surprising.

                Cheers
                Mardhi
                Yep sad but highly predictable.

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                • #9
                  So, what did your lawyer say?

                  Option 1: "You are fucked!"
                  Option 2: " You are totally fucked!"

                  Mister Arse

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                  • #10
                    Your applying wrong 'values' to our friends in the legal profession.

                    Of course, the answer will be "we can do loads - send me 500,000b as retainer and we will get the ball rolling"

                    2 years and 2,000,000b later - end result will be the same, except the lawyer has now made enough to buy the house and pickup from the cash strapped LB....

                    Cheers
                    Mardhi

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                    • #11
                      I'm with Ziggy on this one,as they say in Indonesia, sama sama,"The same".Weather it be Western girl or Orientel ladyboy,same out come,when it goes tits up,"MAN GETS FUCKED".Lets be honest,how many guys staking shelves in Tescos are married to stunners,now same guy on money market,would be bettting them off with a stick.it's life & we just gotta be carefull,not all our eggs in one basket.
                      Sorry to hear the bad news Pouge,i thought just one of us was gonna be lucky !
                      Be lucky,have fun & stay young !

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                      • #12
                        (mardhi @ Nov. 10 2007,14:49) Your applying wrong 'values' to our friends in the legal profession.    

                        Of course, the answer will be "we can do loads - send me 500,000b as retainer and we will get the ball rolling"

                        2 years and 2,000,000b later - end result will be the same, except the lawyer has now made enough to buy the house and pickup from the cash strapped LB....

                        Cheers
                        Mardhi
                        I stand corrected

                        What did your lawyer THINK!!?

                        Option 1: "You are fucked!"
                        Option 2: " You are totally fucked!"


                        Mister Arse

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                        • #13
                          (Stewart @ Nov. 10 2007,15:32) I stand corrected

                          What did your lawyer THINK!!?

                          Option 1: "You are fucked!"
                          Option 2: " You are totally fucked!"


                          Option #3: You're Fucked in every hole  

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                          • #14
                            You weren't the first and won't be the last. Good luck on getting your stuff back and hope it all works out for everybody involved...
                            Not up the ass thank you very much...

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                            • #15
                              Ouch!

                              Was hoping you'd be the one to actually make it.

                              Dunno what to say tbh, but I feel your pain...
                              I've made kathylc  

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