Ohm

[donnnnnny]

(filoubidou @ Jun. 26 2007,02:08)

(monkeyman @ Jun. 25 2007,20:01) Interesting tactics , budgeting only 2000 for a girl , so after a drink , and bar fine and short time room , she will be left with about 1000 .

Seems like if you approach a girl like this and go through the drink buying process and then the negotiations , if she says no and lets say this happens 3 or 4 times then you are up for an expensive night , when if you had of offered the first girl say 500 more you would of got your first choice and saved some money overall  .

Or am i missing something ?

yes you miss something, but it is not your fault as i did not mention it in my earlier reports, I was coming back from some shopping at Pantip plaza and I decided to stop on my way to my hotel in Soi3. I had about 2000 in my pocket and I thought I could kill an hour by having a little fun with a girl, it was about 4h30pm and Guess bar was the only option.

One more thing, to all the readers, I post this thread not to make some shade to Guess bar, it is just a report of what really happened with all the sincerity I can have, I do not try to make a story from nothing, just add to this forum my (sad) experience with a girl, to avoid this happen again with another customer, or if this happen again (and apparently I am not the first one), just be warned about the girl. this forum is also to inform people, and i think by writing this, I was informing people, if you took it the wrong way, I am sorry...

your quite right to post about a bad experiance with a ladyboy , where ever she might work. May i suggest you just put it out of your head and move along.
I have one rule with ladyboys and that rule is there are no rules.
IF im fucked about by a bitch its usually because we dont click, so she wants the money and wants out quick, shows you how desperate they can be.
Ohm and you have not made it work for an hour so dont i repeat don.t go there again. There are 100;s of other shemales in bangkok who might clcik with you. when one dose click with you ohm will be a puff of dust in the distance TIT thai rak thai

[Guest]

last and final word on this. Filoubidou, next time instead of applying so much pressure during negotiations, just apply more ky and anal sphinter pressure with your mighty rod! The story would then have a happy ending.

[Guest]

Chaps, I also had the opportunity to take Ohm out of Guess Bar back to my hotel ( with another lb too !)  .  We agreed everything upfront in Guess Bar, and the two gals were happy to go - no question of penny pinching or how much - as i prefer to pay above the average to avoid hassles.

have to say i loved the Guess Bar atmosphere, quality of the gals,  etc - think i posted it at the time too.

I did however have exactly the same problem with Ohm back at the hotel as filoubidou. Ohm basically said she was too tight for me, and presented a clenched sphincter (!) as above , very dissapointingly and gave me the feeling that she had planned to do that whole charade.  

Maybe it was her lack of experience, maybe she wanted only to scam a few hundred baht and avoid being shagged, but i have been to Thailand too often to get too wound up with it, ( and had number two still in the room, who more than made up for Ohm's lack of willingness !!)


So the conclusion from this post, i think is that Ohm could have a recurringly unfortunate approach to her chosen work... ;  that Guess/Marhdi intended to handle this sensitively with their staff, being a quality outfit ;  and that we can all make more informed descions when we go about our evening's choices.

Good value being a forum member, i say

[brocklanders]

Soapy G said, " as i prefer to pay above the average to avoid hassles."

And did you have less hassles? NO

So let that theory rest along with the thousands of other overpaying dipshits flooding from Europe and the US.  Overpaying does not equate to better service..never has.

Yeah, I may seem cheap by worrying about paying 1,500ST as opposed 2,000 on some ocassions  BUT it's the principal, not the money.   Trust me, I have more money than I will ever have time to spend it....but throwing around money to make myself feel better is not my thing.

[TiaoLang]

Forum members, this has been and interesting topic, but for Brocklanders to refer to a new member (Soapy_G) as a dipshit is very harsh. He posted an articulate description of his experience and the response he has received from a member is unfair. Soapy_G, as a new member, please don't let this one comment deter you from posting in the future.

So let that theory rest along with the thousands of other overpaying dipshits flooding from Europe and the US.

Regards.

Tiao

[daveduke007]

I think brock was refering to quite a lot of us that are "dipshits" in his opinion that pay "over the odds" and not just Soapy G

I am so called "guilty" of this myself and at the end of the day I spend MY money how I like and I am a happy "dipshit"

[divertwo]

... the idea of a "market price" is a guideline at best......I pay what I feel the experience is worth. In fact, during my last trip in April/May I never once asked up front what the "fee" would be. We leftthe bar/club/streetcorne/parking lotr together, had a good time(usually)..some ST, some LT, I gave her what I felt her "companionship" was worth, everyone was happy....aside from the complaints when I said I had to leave town for other cities in LOS.....

Have we beat this dead horse enough yet???

[stogie bear]

Overpaying does not equate to better service... never has.

I disagree. This may apply to the law profession but not in my experience of the P4P profession.

But there are other things you can do to make the sex great... bathe, (with soap) don't stink of fags, don't get drunk, treat the person as important for the time you are with her...

Saving 500 Baht 'on principle' is bad business in my experience. Pay the extra and have the time of your life or negotiate hard for a good deal and suffer the resultant ignominy and lackluster performance of your chosen victim and everyone she knows!

Have we beat this dead horse enough yet?

No and we never will!  

[brocklanders]

I dont negotiate hard if the girl starts talking about price BEFORE I barfine her. If she thinks she is worth 2,000baht ST and I think she is worth it, then I will pay it. If she asks for that amount and I dont think its worth it, I wont pay it and go to the next ladyboy.

Stogie is talking about something different. I am more flexible than I probably am leading on as each girl has their own value. To be honest, most ladyboys that talk about price prior to the deed are not worth it IMHO.

The problem is that the guys who say they pay what makes them happy are likely paying up to 5,000 baht for ST and dont blink an eye.

Nearly all of the ladyboys and girls I have met in Thailand have not mentioned price, I pay what I think is the going rate and they are always happy(Joy being the exception). Matter of fact, most of them are calling me and texting me off the hook after the session, so I must be doing something right.

[Guest]

Matter of fact, most of them are calling me and texting me off the hook after the session, so I must be doing something right.

Haha nearly the funniest thing I have read on this forum.

[jimslim]

Back home 500 baht = about £7 , which nowdays you would be lucky to get 2 beers with

The time of my life or 2 beers ...... what a dilemma

[Looker]

Well..I had a not so fun-tastic time with a GUESS Bar girls as well..just wrote that in another thread, and I'm not going to say the name or complain to Jay or Mardhi or whoever..totally pointless!
However, as I also wrote, I'm having less and less good times in the P4P scene. It could be me as well..it could be a sum of many factors..whatever.
Having a P4P experience doesn't imply satisfaction nor money back!! It's just about being lucky...

[mardhi]

Guys I have been offline for 24 hours as some bastard stole my phone line to sell the copper inside it

Luckilly the phone company have replaced it pretty quick with a donation to the technicians retirement fund (hehe I feel sorry for the other suckers who lost their lines at the same time as me, as they have now run out of cabling....) and I am back on line.

I know Jay has had a couple of meetings with all the staff - I was not at these meetings and nor did I want to be, however she has laid out her concerns and suggestions to the girls. Basically she has reminded them that these girls have to be open with guys and if they want to do something, all well and good and if they dont want to do something all well and good. However if they agree to something and then dont do it and she hears about it - they are in serious trouble. By all accounts she chose not to single out any one girl, but she gave some examples that would mean the girl concerned would be aware who was being talked about, but it was seemingly done in such a way, that they did not lose face. Lets see if that brings the said person back in line.

Cheers
Mardhi

[donnnnnny]

i agree with brocky totally.payiing over the odds wont get you better service and never will. negotiation before leaving a bar is always the best bet. if the girll in your opinion is worth 1500 then take her. if not leave her

[newwriter]

Paying more that standard is the equivalent of tipping good service isn't it? I actually like tipping people well when they provide good service. I allow myself to believe that this small thing will generally improve all service.

LB's who spend time with me aren't in it for the love or my good looks (I think I know that when my phone rings off the hook it is to do with my wallet not my performance) and if they have the good grace to look like they are enjoying themselves and talk to me pleasantly during and after I like nothing more than rewarding that.

We will both probably wind up as miserable old bastards Brock but I suspect you will have more toys and thus win the competition. I wouldn't swap places with you for every toy you finish with though.