How much do you pay for short time?

[PigDogg]

a girl who gives an hour massage gets about 100 baht from the house, maybe slightly more depending on the place.  these girls think very highly of a 100 tip and 200 baht tip is trully exceptional.

this does not include happy endings. if a place allows happy endings thats really easy money for the girl, lots of extra baht for really no extra work.

let's leave getting fucked up the ass out of it.  
 

lets talk about blowjobs.  what's easier giving head or an hour's massage?

so the girl in pattaya getting 500-700 for the shortime plus 100 from the barfine is doing pretty well compared to the massage girl.

or look at it another way.

what would you rather do, give a 60 year old lady an hours massage or lick her pussy for a little while.  i think it's easier to lick her pussy.    

[brocklanders]

So Ozzie thinks 500 is being a cheap charlie and 1,500 not the norm for ST(considering the newbie tourists)....so then what do you think is the norm and what do you think is reasonable?

Remember, guys who live in Thailand barfine much less than tourists and usually have a live-in gf or ladyboy so you are comparing apples and oranges.

[buttafly]

[quote]
(ozzie @ Feb. 10 2007,12:38)

Those who seem the think the girls are laughing at me because I am a little more generous than you saps are just trying to convince themselves that they are not cheap charlies. Because that is what they are mumbling under theit breaths I can assure you.

How do I know this well I speak quite good Thai and hear it all the time.

good one on you, Oz and don't change your methods, they are better than these other poor fools who must work in Burger King back in the west or some shit.....  and this quote  from Donnnny is the most hilarious one in the whole thread of course;

'have  payed many girls 1000 and  they have been very happy  and wayed me  smiling and singing as they leave'

   Ya, they are smiling and singing 'cause they are getting away from your cheap ass and happy about it! LOL

  A very smart and savvy Thai  ladyboy who reads here daily but has the common sense not to post anything and reveal herself called me yesterday about this very thread....  she says "The guys there talking about paying small money are the ones the ladyboys talk about and avoid, and if they DO go with them they try and steal whatever they can from them to make up the difference".

       Funny as hell, you cheap fuckers are getting it worse in the end than you even know and don't have the brains  you were born with to figure that out; the ones who just hand over a tad bit more [ we are talking like 20 US dollars, come on!] and get good service and make friends are doing it right.....again, cheap charlies make me and the ladyboys laugh and this thread does also.

     

[buttafly]

(brocklanders @ Feb. 10 2007,13:07) Remember, guys who live in Thailand usually have a live-in gf or ladyboy

Really?

Odd, I don't know of anyone except Ziggy who has a live-in and I spend quite a bit of time in Thailand.

[PigDogg]

(PigDogg @ Feb. 09 2007,21:55) what would you rather do, give a 60 year old lady an hours massage or lick her pussy for a little while.  i think it's easier to lick her pussy.    

[brocklanders]

Well Buttafly, if you consider me paying 1,500 being cheap then I guess guilty as charged. If you believe for a second what these Thai ladyboys tell you then I have some land in Antarctica I would like to sell you and its melting. Lots of factors make a difference in how the girls perceive you...age of the monger, the shape he is in, how he treats the girl, and if he speaks Thai. When you can carry on a conversation in Thai with these ladyboys, then get back to me.

But if it makes you feel better that you get better service with bigger tips, then at least you sleep better at night believing this is so

[Guest]

(brocklanders @ Feb. 10 2007,15:07) So Ozzie thinks 500 is being a cheap charlie and 1,500 not the norm for ST(considering the newbie tourists)....so then what do you think is the norm and what do you think is reasonable?

Remember, guys who live in Thailand barfine much less than tourists and usually have a live-in gf or ladyboy so you are comparing apples and oranges.

Don't worry you keep paying your 500 ST and convince yourself you are not a cheap charlie.

I know quite a few guys who live in Thailand and actually not aware of any of them who have a live in gf so not sure where you get your information. I am sure there are some but to say they usually have a live in gf is just not the case.

I suppose you are one of the guys who waits from 7pm until 2:00am sitting in big dogs waiting for closing to avoid the bar fine only to have spent more than 600 baht on beer and get sloppy seconds or thirds. Damn now why didn't I come up with that great plan to apparently save abut $20 AUD

[Guest]

short time 1000 long time 2000.this is final.No more talking. Those prices for Bangkok and phuket.For Pattaya short time 700-1000 long time 1500-2000.

[kahuna]

Short time....who cares...

Long time...dinner, shopping, movie, disco, more shopping, drinks, aircon, tv, airline tickets, two boys fucking, more shopping, etc., etc....

Fuck...time to hit the ATM again...

kahuna the cash

[buttafly]

(brocklanders @ Feb. 10 2007,14:37) But if it makes you feel better that you get better service with bigger tips, then at least you sleep better at night believing this is so]

Oh, I sleep great every night, thanks.......although I must admit much better when I am in the states in my own bed and not switching hotel rooms every few nights or weeks.... but regardless I don't think saving the 15 bucks would make me sleep all that much better really, I am not a pauper.

 Thanks for the advice though and really if you are happy with 1500  that seems to be a decent deal for both parties I guess.....

    Oh, hint;  I don't believe  'every' ladyboy what they tell me of course, I know that  less than 25% of it is true.  But the ones  I have made rich by Thai standards [and there are over a dozen] tell me what's going on and I believe those ones.... the same deal with that drug thread I started which was more a combination of my own obversations and chats with a bunch of "new"  ladyboys on the scene.

 again, ya'  think I type this stuff  up here or make it up for MY  benefit?  funny.....  funny also how threads like this always seem to degenerate into shouting matches or name-calling when the always-bottom line should be 'pay whatever the hell you want'.

[brocklanders]

Buttafly, fair enough...at least you are honest about your reasons for paying the girls.

Ozzie, guess you have reading comprehension problems..I have always said I pay 1,500 not 500. You still havent stated what you feel is the norm as you live there chai mai?

[69billy]

(brocklanders @ Feb. 10 2007,08:37) But if it makes you feel better that you get better service with bigger tips, then at least you sleep better at night believing this is so

Soo 500-800bt is to little for ST.if they don't like it.. they should stop geting there asses fucked and go back to the ricefields...100bt for LT in the fields...

Life is bitch....
My boss should pay me $1000 a day...He is a fucking cheap charlie.

[Guest]

let the s pay more so we can get the ladyboys LT more cheap

[kaos]

(rob69in @ Feb. 10 2007,02:45) The price is whatever the provider is happy to receive & what ever the receiver is happy to give. If both parties to this arrangement are happy thats the price.

But it might not be the same for the next "John" passing by.

i think Rob get the point
buttafly if you really think that a working LB is honest with you just because you pay more than the average...well chap i believe you are wrong but this is IMO.
I've never experienced a honest a sincere working in the bar LB...and i know a lot of them and i can speak and understand thai...and i know they will never tell you the truth but exactly what you want to be told and this is valid for almost all the thai no matter lady ladyboy or boy... its just the way it is.

[Guest]

(brocklanders @ Feb. 11 2007,03:52) Buttafly, fair enough...at least you are honest about your reasons for paying the girls.

Ozzie, guess you have reading comprehension problems..I have always said I pay 1,500 not 500.   You still havent stated what you feel is the norm as you live there chai mai?

I have said it many times before and Robin has also just said the same thing and that is if what you are happy to pay is about what the girl is genuinely happy to get then I have no problem.

Just to go on the record I do actually think 1500 for ST is certainly around what I would consider acceptable. I will also say that 500-800 ST is just being downright cheap and you can argue until you are blue in the face about cost of living and what others get paid sorry this does not hold water.

I do not live in Thailand at the moment although spend a significant amount of time there.