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  • Beware Underage Ladyboys...

    Right upfront I have to make it very clear that I am neither looking for them nor do I want to be pointed that way but earlier tonight it almost happened to me.

    I went out for a walk and ran into a fairly cute lb on Beach Road who told me that her name was Nicky - not the famous Nicky although there was a bit of a resemblance. Her E wasn't too good but I was willing to take her short time. She pointed to some room which might have been in Soi Yamoto but I prefer my own turf. Then she obviously thought that I was staying at some hotel (I actually stay at a serviced apartment) and she said that she was only 17. That is when I backed out, she freaked a bit but I said sorry, I could not go with her if she was only 17.

    I also have to say that she did not look particularly young, she could have easily passed for 18 or older.

    Later I met a friend who told me about scams they run - perhaps not her - but certain underage boys and lbs in particular - they call the police from yr room and upon arrival. In order to get out of the mess this might cost you 100K Baht of which half goes to the cops and half to the lb. Not a bad biz for either, very bad biz 4 the customer of course.

    I know that some will say "Stay away from BR" but that is not the issue here. I heard rumors that one popular girl in a popular LB-bar is only 17 - rumors as I say.

    The point is that covering all yr bases can be quite difficult when hunting. I later met another one who def looked underage and wanted to make a test. I asked her for her age and she said 18 but could not produce any ID.

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    A scary story. You are right even in the bars and with IDs, the girls may not be 18. I guess the ID check, ask the MS and go on what you think - if she looks less than 18 then go onto the next one.

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    • #3
      This kind of situation is exactly why a good hotel is the best place to take your victims. If the hotel is doing it's job right they'll find out for sure if she's 18 or older.

      By the way - don't listen to those 'sting operation' rumors. In all the years I've been here I haven't yet heard ONE reliable story of this happening. Of course - it COULD happen, but it could also snow in Pattaya.

      There are lots of ladyboys who are clearly (and not so clearly) under aged.

      The law is clear - if you give her money (or gifts) then she better be 18. If you just meet her and have consensual sex (yeah, right!) then she better be 15. If she works in a bar then she better be 20.

      But the law applies only to the stupid and poor. Pattaya is a magnet to all kinds of people and if you go there then you are one of the 'all kinds of people' until proven innocent!
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      • #4
        This stuff scares the hell out of me. A few weeks ago when I was in a GG bar in NEP one of the girls I bought a drink for pointed out another girl on stage and said she was 15. I was shocked because the girl could easily pass for 20. I told the girl I was with that I thought management would only hire girls 18 or over. She found that amusing. It tough to gauge for sure.

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        • #5
          (Steff @ Feb. 17 2010,01:54) I thought management would only hire girls 18 or over...
          The law is 20.
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          • #6
            (Bumpa STIKKA @ Feb. 17 2010,00:43) This kind of situation is exactly why a good hotel is the best place to take your victims. If the hotel is doing it's job right they'll find out for sure if she's 18 or older.

            By the way - don't listen to those 'sting operation' rumors. In all the years I've been here I haven't yet heard ONE reliable story of this happening. Of course - it COULD happen, but it could also snow in Pattaya.

            There are lots of ladyboys who are clearly (and not so clearly) under aged.

            The law is clear - if you give her money (or gifts) then she better be 18. If you just meet her and have consensual sex (yeah, right!) then she better be 15. If she works in a bar then she better be 20.

            But the law applies only to the stupid and poor. Pattaya is a magnet to all kinds of people and if you go there then you are one of the 'all kinds of people' until proven innocent!
            Its true - I know of a guy who got totally set up with a 14 year old and I believe his version of events and I am totally cynical on most things.

            Cheers
            Mardhi

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            • #7
              By the way this guy was no angel - but he was set up with this situation - like many places in the world its an almost impossible situation to buy your way out.

              Cheers
              mardhi

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              • #8
                Bumpa,

                What do you mean 20? Are you saying the ladies working the beer bars and go-gos are supposed to be 20 before you can take them? This is so confusing. I have heard age of consent is 15, 17, and 18. Now it seems to be 20 if you take her from a bar. What is it?

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                • #9
                  The legal age for working in an adult entertainment outlet was changed a couple of years ago from 18 to 20.

                  Don't complicate this law with the age of consent laws.

                  The age of consent in Thailand is 15.

                  If gifts or money is involved the age is 18.

                  Prostitution is illegal in Thailand!

                  Don't try to figure it out... just stick with partners who you are certain are over 18.
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                  • #10
                    Is there any comback to the customer on this ? I know of several Obsessions girls who are/were under 20.
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                    • #11
                      I think that this only puts the bar at risk and not the customer.

                      But bars need to bribe cops anyway, so perhaps that would be a few more Baht or included in the package deal.

                      Customers only have to make sure that girls (and lbs or boys) are 18 years and over, or not pay them anything if they are between 15 and 18, which would be close to impossible to prove, in particular if you are twice their age.

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                      • #12
                        Just because she works in a bar, don't assume she is 18, forget 20! There are a few 17 year olds in Pattaya & BKK - who even the mamasan will say are 18 (ie NEXT birthday!)

                        Take care out there! (well said BlueBallz   ) and use a hotel that will check.   Not much you can do with fake (or borrowed) ID cards, unless the hotel spots it.
                        TT

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                        • #13
                          Whatever laws they Thais break in their own country is none of my business and they have their ways of dealing with it.
                          I just wanna make sure that I do not break any serious one like ending up with an underage girl or lb.
                          It also doesn't put my mind at ease that no such rumors had ever been confirmed as I'd hate to be the first one to report of such incident here.
                          100K Baht definitely seems tempting enough to run such a scam on us.

                          It just caught me off-guard last night as nothing indicated that she was below 18.
                          Well, I'll double-check from now on.

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                          • #14
                            2010 is 2553 in the Thai calender.
                            Minus 18 would be 2535, but she could still be below 18.
                            Born in 2534 or before and you are safe - age-wise that is.
                            Still got them going crazy or catching sth to think about ;-)
                            Quite a multitask ...

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                            • #15
                              (Chinaman @ Feb. 17 2010,09:15) I think that this only puts the bar at risk and not the customer.

                              But bars need to bribe cops anyway, so perhaps that would be a few more Baht or included in the package deal.

                              Customers only have to make sure that girls (and lbs or boys) are 18 years and over, or not pay them anything if they are between 15 and 18, which would be close to impossible to prove, in particular if you are twice their age.
                              The person most at risk is whoever has the most capacity to pay.

                              A farang barowner would know better how to buy his way out of trouble but there is no benefit for him in having underage girls on his premises. Why invite trouble?

                              As for being able to prove you never paid money to a girl aged between 15 & 18, it is irrelevant because with a word in the girls ear from the police, she will say whatever she's asked to.

                              The police are feared for good reason. They can arrest & charge us (or the girls) for whatever reason they need. If you wish to make an issue of having to pay a bribe, they will suddenly discover you are carrying narcotics.

                              For those who understand what's involved & do as asked, there is little risk of arrest. The police will escort you to an ATM if you don't have the cash on you. It is no time for drunken heroics, stupid behaviour will ensure you are locked up with about 30 others in the same cell.

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