How To Treat a Ladyboy - Hints and Tips

[rxpharm]

Taniesha, do you mean the original ones or are copy/fake (pirated) ones ok too?

[doug]

as stogie said, it's a debate that's been done to death and i didn't bring it up here to try to settle it.

what i am saying is that "the debate" and all other trivial line-drawing and compartmentalizing-of-sex-acts should be left at HOME. don't take it out to the bars with you (and certainly don't take it on a date or to the bedroom).

if someone wishes to be called a "she", don't insist on calling "him" a "he", just because that's what "he" REALLY is. Pointing out obvious facts doesn't make you a hit at parties. It makes you a bit of an ass. That's all I'm really trying to say.

just go with the flow and use a bit of common courtesy. what's hard about that? if someone wants to be called a "she", why not? if someone wants to be considered "straight", why not? does it really matter??

I think one of the reasons I get along so well with ladyboys (and not just as a customer, but I have several non-P4P friends too), is that I just treat them as girls. I don't make a distinction in my head separating them from "real girls", and I don't openly treat them as "chicks with dicks" fetish objects. I open doors, hold their arm while crossing the street, and pull out a chair for them when they sit down, just like any gentleman would do for a nice lady.

It's a little bit of courtesy. It costs me nothing and I expect nothing for it in return. Just because there's a monetary transaction at the end of the "date" doesn't mean I should forget the manners that momma taught me, nor does it mean that she has to abide by my definitions of "straight", "gay", or "gender" just because I'm paying.

Like I said before, I don't do it to try to play for a freebie (girls hate that), and I don't do it to try to get them to "like me" (I'm a customer, not their savior). I do it because I enjoy being nice. In other words, I'm nice to people for entirely selfish reasons.

So just because I'm paying that doesn't make me infallible and that doesn't mean MY definitions of sex/gender are the "proper" ones. Se7en thinks I'm full of shit because I think I'm "straight" even though I take in in the ass. Well, his jock friends may think they are the last word on gender/sexual-orientation, but what I'm saying is that I should be free to make my own definitions and define myself as I see fit.

His jock friends may be more comfortable in a black/white world with clear, precise definitions based on concrete facts and actions, and that's FINE. I have no criticism of their point of view or their right to define the world in ways that make them comfortable. But why do I have to abide by their definitions?? My brain isn't wired up the same way, and I'm at ease in a murkier world with generalized definitions that are based on abstract concepts and personal opinions.

By my defintion, "straight", "gay", "male", "female" are ROLES that we choose to play. They have connections to biological facts and physical actions, but those facts and actions do not tell the entire story.

To use a really poor analogy, a soldier on a battlefield, a father protecting his family from a burglar, and a raving psychopath may all commit the same action (killing somebody), but only one of those people is considered a bad guy. The other two are considered heroes based on their motivations and the circumstances

No, that's a really bad example, but I hope you get the point. The physical act (shooting somebody) is the same in each case, but only one person is defined as a "murderer" and that definition is NOT based on the physical act itself, but rather on the person's motivations and the circumstances. In other words, abstract things determine the label we give a physical act.

Which is why I can define myself as "straight", because I don't equate particular sex-acts with "gayness". Those are just physical things I do to enjoy myself and have a good time.

What I'm saying is that being a customer doesn't give me the right to impose my beliefs on some P4P girl. I don't believe a customer is always right, and if I ever met LL Bean, I'd sock him in the jaw for coming up with that stupid saying. As a customer, I have A right to expect good service in exchange for my coin, but that doesn't give me the right to be an ass or pretend like I'm the infallible pope.

I said that these girls should be treated as if they were made of plutonium, and I stand by that. But that's a general statement about P4P girls and not just about ladyboys. It's tough to think "this is just business" when you're dick is up her bum, but I guarantee you that SHE is probably thinking that.

So the idea is to just not get caught up in the whole illusion. Have fun, do whatever makes you feel good, and stop parsing up the world into "proper" and "improper" actions. All that crap is just in your head and it gets in the way of having a good time and enjoying the company of a really hot piece of ass.

Like those two guys I overheard at a restaurant. They spent the entire time TALKING (and dis'ing) about the ladyboys walking by, but it was pretty obvious that they really wanted to get out of their chairs, go outside, and proposition one of those "girls". The only reason those guys didn't do it was because they were sitting with another "straight" friend (those guys were probably se7en's 'straight' jock friends). In their minds, even admitting those girls were hot would flip them over into the "gay" category in their buddy's mind and he'd probably freak out worrying about his friend suddenly trying to fuck him in the ass just because he thought a ladyboy looked hot.

So instead of having an awesome time, they just sat on the fence and heckled like a pair of morons.

[laputanegra]

(rxpharm @ Jan. 09 2009,14:31) Taniesha, do you mean the original ones or are copy/fake (pirated) ones ok too?  

well if she deserves the real thing rx why not?

[f0xxee]

Your all gay.
Deal with it.

[paultain]

   
I got along with, and understand every word. I think the same way, and agree with Doug. His advice is worth its weight in gold. Nothing wrong with what he is saying.

[sev7en]

(f0xxee @ Jan. 09 2009,18:58) Your all gay.
Deal with it.

Some can´t , they rather lie to themselves.

[doug]

foxee, i get what you're saying, but i disagree that "gay sex act" = "you're gay".

you think otherwise.

the world is big enough for both viewpoints. so why argue semantics?

my point is that you can't expect a ladyboy to get-off on your "i'm having naughty gay sex" fetish. which a lot of supposedly straight guys have.

a lot of non-P4P ladyboys seek out "straight" men (and avoid gay guys) because in their mind, they want to have "straight" sex and a "straight" male/female-roled relationship.

you also can't expect her to give a damn about how YOU parse gender and sex acts. So insisting on using masculine pronouns (or making obvious puns about it) and avoiding certain sex acts because you "don't want to become gay", isn't going to score you any points with these girls.

The thread is about how to treat ladyboys and seeks tips and hints for newbies. I'm saying that a lot of newbies get hung up on all this "defining" and "categorizing" bullshit. And I'm pointing out that those hang ups get in the way of having some fun and they aren't going to be appreciated by the girls you meet. Just call her a "she" and treat her like a girl. Who cares what she REALLY is?

You say we're "to-MAY-toes", I say we're "to-MAH-toes". Does it matter? We're all still fruits!

[sev7en]

(doug @ Jan. 09 2009,15:14) sitting with another "straight" friend (those guys were probably se7en's 'straight' jock friends).  In their minds, even admitting those girls were hot would flip them over into the "gay" category in their buddy's mind and he'd probably freak out worrying about his friend suddenly trying to fuck him in the ass just because he thought a ladyboy looked hot.

So instead of having an awesome time, they just sat on the fence and heckled like a pair of morons.

Could very well be them, cept they have never been outside the US, let alone their state, dating their female cousin.

I agree with you , but surprised you called yourself straight, but that doesn´t necessarily mean you have to say you´re gay (god forbid).

No sweat, whatever makes us happy, ey?

[doug]

well, i call myself "straight" because there's a whole lifestyle to being "gay" that i'm just not into.

90% of the time, my sex partner is my girlfriend, and we pretty much do everything i'd do with a ladyboy (including giving and recieving anal), but i don't consider that "gay sex", would you?

I don't consider myself "bi" either, because like I said, hairy, naked men make me barf. (so yes, every time 69billy or stogie post their hairy asses on this forum, i have to fight the urge to hurl--no offense guys, hahah! i'll be scrolling down the thread, hard-on in hand when all of a sudden i see some massive plumber's buttcrack and i'm like, "aaaah! my eyes! they burn! sssssssss!" and then i tape a piece of paper over the screen so only the cute parts are showing , hahah!).

I'm into ladyboys, but that's because i mentally categorize them as "girls", not men.  Amazons and drag queens turn me off because they act like dudes in dresses, not girls.

some guys flame out when they prowl ladyboys.  they put on their rainbow hats and do a "full gay" routine.  but like you said, "whatever makes us happy", so if that's their thing, more power to them.

i just don't feel like i belong in that same category.  I'm not "secretly gay" and I'm not "having sex with ladyboys as a way to 'trick myself' soi can avoid dealing with my own gayness by only boinking dudes that look like girls".

maybe some guys do that, but not me.  i'm 100% attracted to femininity.  Amazons walking up and grabbing my ballsack are NOT attractive in my book, no matter how "hot" they might look.  There's a lot more to being a "girl" than a pair of bolt-ons and pound of makeup.

and contrary to what you might think, i'm not offended or freaked out if someone calls me gay, I just don't think it's an accurate label, that's all.

[doug]

(deepthroat @ Jan. 09 2009,01:47) ... tickle stick... ...meat whistle... ...pork sword... ...womb ferret... ...vomiting cobra... ...pee-staff...

i think you spend way too much time thinking up new nicknames for your dick

hahah

[deepthroat]

You're just jealous that I got a womb ferret and all you got was standard meat stick

[mirimark]

Damn Billy, remind me never to fuck with you. Your Arms Look Harder than Rocks. Your a Strong Looking boy.

Mmmmmmmmm,,,,, Yummy. Wish that was me on the bottom of Billy.

[sev7en]

(mirimark @ Jan. 09 2009,23:36)  Mmmmmmmmm,,,,,   Yummy.   Wish that was me on the bottom of Billy.

Haha, i hope that´s a joke since billy will pay you only 500 baht. Or maybe you do him free?

Btw,billy who´s that lb?

[ericeric]

Looks like Am(Aum) from Didi bar

[burnt_out]

(mirimark @ Jan. 09 2009,23:36) Damn Billy,  remind me never to fuck with you.  Your Arms Look Harder than Rocks.   Your a Strong Looking boy.

 Mmmmmmmmm,,,,,   Yummy.   Wish that was me on the bottom of Billy.

now that's gay