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Phuket is a craphole. I should know...
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DONNNNNNY !!!!!!!!!
You are the man
No pussy-footing around when you want to express an opinion.
Here's me trying to justify liking Phuket & you crash through with your side of the story ....
with photos
and a great argument
and for good measure ...
an afterpost Mint (very of me)
One T-shirt please for donnnnnnyDespite the high cost of living, it continues to be popular.
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somebody who hangs out in the crappiest, most tacky city in the world with the smell of open sewer 24/7 and a toxic beach calling Phuket a craphole!
that's rich
Shemale Island is awesome, plain and simple; people who were debating going there don't let this thread stop you....... it has some of the best beaches in the world and isn't that the reason most of us go to Thailand?Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
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Being both self-righteous & sanctimonious is Stogie's stock in trade.
There is no point trying to convince a closed mind that their preconceptions may be wrong,
there are many ways for those who seek the negative in Phuket to find justification.
However, the positive side of Phuket more than compensates for any short-comings.
The worst part of my trips to Phuket was having to touch down in Bangkok,
... and I never even left the airport.Despite the high cost of living, it continues to be popular.
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strangely enough, the only reason I didn't like it last time was because I thought it has changed too much and looked a lot like Pattaya! Soi Bangla, anyway.... which is now just walking street south and are 2 streets I will avoid for the rest of my years if possible.
The beaches [even Patong] are still world-class however, and that's what I go on holiday for.
It's one of the nicest places in the world, to call it a craphole even jokingly is doing it a huge disservice and may put off some people who may have been thinking of going there, but as you can see it creates controversy and that's good for message boards.
Any truth to the rumour that the ATS website started there?Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
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Here's my fourpennyworth. Sorry it's a bit long - copied and pasted fom an old TR.
I have fond mmories of the place as it was the scene of my first major LB encounter.
I'd met only one LB before, in samui. It was the classic case - I'd gone into a bar, fell in love instantly with the beautiful barmaid, chatted with her for a while and asked her what she was doing later. "Listen," she said, "there's something you ought to know..."
I'd been curious about LBs for a while, so I was delighted to hear her little secret. Spent most of the next three days with her - and none of the guys I was with ever twigged that she wasn't a she.
That made me very hungry to try more and I was thrilled when, back in the UK, I stumbled across the old C&D website. It was in Soi Paradise then, and had a bar, cabaret, very cool little hotel upstairs and a great restaurant. It was (as it still is) run by Ning Nong and her boyfriend Nick - a great chef and a really nice guy. I booked a week's stay there and started counting the days.
When I got there the airline had lost my luggage so the first thing I had to do was go and buy some essentials - toothbrush, pair of pants etc. - till the luggage turned up. I'd never been to Phuket before, so Ning told a girl called Waas to take me to the shops. She took me by the hand and we set off. I was totally gobsmacked by this amazon who looked like a cross between Diana Ross and Halle Berry. She was beautiful, friendly and so sexy my mouth went dry. On the way to and from the shops she stopped to talk to two or three ladyboys who were just as stunning. They all gave me appraising looks. I really thought I had died and gone to heaven.
But that night it got even better when the cabaret started. Ning, Waas and four other stunners! A couple of them - Ming and Banana - have gone on to be the superstars you all know. Apart from an elderly chap whose only thrill was to dress in women's clothes and sit watching the cabaret at night (he looked a bit like Betty the barmaid in Coronation Street) I was the only single guy staying there. The five LBs were all looking at me like foxes looking at a chicken. Marvellous.
I was a bit naive and knew nothing of the etiquette of not taking different girls from the same bar but, looking back on it, they didn't seem to give a shit anyway. Over the course of the stay, I managed to work my way through nearly all of them, as well as a couple more from outside the bar. On my last night, Nick told me that I really ought to do a lap of honour! Nick was a real diamond, who took me in hand, showed me round his favourite haunts in Bangla and was a top class late night drinking buddy. Had quite a colurful life and tells some good stories. He's still around, although I hear he's not actively involved in C&D these days. I think he does boat charters. If you happen to run into him, buy him a beer and get him chatting. You won't regret it.
One funny story - there was a couple staying there. The LB was a friend of Ning's, a very fit stunner who worked in one of the bars in BKK. The guy should probably remain nameless. A really nice guy but let's say he wasn't the sharpest tool in the box. They'd met in BKK six months earlier and he'd also done the classic, not realising she wasn't a she until they got back to his room. He'd said what the heck, and gone ahead with it anyway, and was totally smitten by her as a result.
Now they were in Phuket spending two whole weeks together, for the first time since they'd first met. You'd see them around the place, holding hands, smiling at each other, looking deep into each other's eyes, feeding each other with their fingers - you know the routine.
One night I was lying in bed reading (alone, unusually) and I heard them come in. They stayed just across the hall from me. I wasn't taking much notice, but you could hear all the usual sounds from a honeymoon couple's bedroom: the bed creaking, little gasps and moans, etc. The suddenly I heard a startled yelp of pain - from HIM! It went on for about five minutes and got more and more anguished. I was laughing so much I had to bury my head in the pillow.
I had to tell Nick about it when I saw him in the bar the next evening. We were just having a chuckle about it when, speak of the devil, this guy walked in. "Hello mate," Nick said, "come in and sit yourself down." "No thanks," he said, "I'd rather stand." We exploded with laughter.
And one not so funny story. I was booked to arrive in Phuket on Dec. 28th 2004. I'd been there a few times by then, Nick and Nong had sold the hotel, so I'd found another place which I really liked. They always gave me the same very nice room, on the ground floor with patio doors that opened right onto the pool. Late in December, I realised I had a few extra days of holiday due from work, so I rang them and asked if they could fit me in from December 23rd, but they were full. That hotel got totally wiped out by the tsunami and if I'd been there, in my usual ground floor room, I would have been a goner, no doubt about it. I spoke to Nick a few days later. He'd lost a couple of his bar staff and was devastated. They were never seen again.
But anyway, I still had my flights and holiday booked from Dec 28th. I went to Pattaya, which I'd never really fancied before, as it sounded a bit too intense for me. But I couldn't find anywhere else with hotel space. And the rest, as they say, is history.
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I'm in Phuket now, was in Pattaya last week.
Phuket has pristine beaches and clean water to swim in. Everything is VERY expensive, can't find good Thai food in Thailand here! Everything is server "Western" style. Ladyboys can be found but not many bars with them.
Pattaya beaches were covered with garbage and there was a funky brown sewage like mixture with the sand going on down there! Hotels and food are cheaper in Pattaya as are the girls. I wouldn't swim in Pattaya for too long.
Ciao
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(JM07 @ Jul. 15 2008,04:29) Pattaya beaches were covered with garbage and there was a funky brown sewage like mixture with the sand going on down there!
and people wonder why Pattaya is the armpit of the world?
Remember people, Stogie does not care about beaches.... if he did he'd like Phuket; a LOT.
This is a sex tourist thread.... if that's all you want, you can skip PhuketEven a broken clock is right twice a day.
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