131 Bar (Pattaya)

[doug]

(stogie bear @ Feb. 21 2007,15:33) Total rubbish.

Show me one pic of a farang on this forum with a ladyboy who hasn't given his consent.

There isn't one and you can't find one, either.

There is total respect for privacy for members on this fourm and to say otherwise is an outright lie or an attempt to undermine the credibility of this site and it's owners and moderators.

I assume that you have a website that somehow tries to compete with this site and a forum of your own?

I'll give you a couple of days to substantiate your ridiculous claims before I delete your stupid untrue post!

The concern over photos is entirely legit, anyone who discounts it is coming at things from an entirely different perspective.

For example, if you're a divorced retiree with no family back home, you probably don't give a damn about your photo being posted because you've got no family or job to lose back home.

Or if you're a recently "out-of-the-closet" flaming tranny-chaser, then you also probably don't care because you actually enjoy (or get off) on the idea that everyone knows you're sucking ladyboy dick.

Also, I don't think anyone who's concerned about photos is concerned about them getting posted HERE. Most of the members are pretty concientious and even if there are a few assholes out there, the moderators would quickly delete any offending post.

However, that doesn't mean photos taken in a ladyboy bar can't show up somewhere else.

Also, that doesn't mean that everyone taking those photos is going to be an angelic good ol' boy.

I'm not going to rattle off possible scenarios where things could go bad, use your own imagination.

I'm just saying that people who say cameras aren't a big deal are coming from a different point-of-view. That's all.

Nobody's "wrong" here. Some guys don't care, some guys care a lot.

Some of us have wives, girlfriends, jobs, and families back home and we are still "in the closet" about this aspect of our lives and NOBODY has the right to "out" us without our permission.

The person taking photos represents a risk to us. We don't know him, we don't know his intentions, and we can't trust that he'll do right by us--all the time--forever.

For some of us, that's a risk that's just too big to take.

We'll stay home and "have a wank" rather than risk destroying our lives and reputations. If you think that we're being stupid or silly, well... maybe you just have less to lose (or you're comfortable with this lifestyle and you've got understanding friends, families and employers).

But don't criticize us for making our preferences known. A bar owner should be aware that cameras make some customers VERY uncomfortable. What he/she does with that information is their own business, but as potential customers, we're just making our preferences known.

I don't think that anybody is trying to criticize this board or the majority of its members.

[Guest]

(doug @ Feb. 21 2007,23:24) However, that doesn't mean photos taken in a ladyboy bar can't show up somewhere else.

Also, that doesn't mean that everyone taking those photos is going to be an angelic good ol' boy.

I'm not going to rattle off possible scenarios where things could go bad, use your own imagination.


The person taking photos represents a risk to us.  We don't know him, we don't know his intentions, and we can't trust that he'll do right by us--all the time--forever.
I don't think that anybody is trying to criticize this board or the majority of its members.

I think maybe that's what the zig was alluding to.

But I do know that SB is very careful about those things around here.

[stogie bear]

Well, the attack was specifically aimed at members of this forum, so I assume that he meant that pics were posted by them on here.

What else could it have meant? That peoople on this forum take pics and post them elsewhere?

Anyway - it's bullshit because no-one on this forum even accidently posts a pic up here of a farang in a ladyboy bar. Because even if they do it's removed by one of the mods immediately and I can only think of one person who has ever done it and he's now banned anyway!

[Guest]

Let's hope that this new place charges Pattaya not Bangkok prices for drinks, Bf and ST/LT, otherwise it won't last long.

[koykaeng]

(bigpauly77 @ Feb. 22 2007,02:37)
Let's hope that this new place charges Pattaya not Bangkok prices for drinks, Bf and ST/LT, otherwise it won't last long.

I have specifically raised this with Franck, and told him to give the pricing plenty of thought.

We discussed reviewing the various competing establishments (in Pattaya) and then forumulating a pricing schedule that is at least comparable.

There is ample opportunity to make a healthy profit on drinks without pricing yourself out of the market.

Same logic applies to Bar fines.

May suggest introducing a happy hour.  

Cheers
Koykaeng

[Dieter]

For Stogie:

We talk about members right...What about the rights of non members and of course the rights of the Ladyboys and girls...????i don't think all Ladyboy's gave an o.k to their pics here or on other boards...

I like to take pics...and love to see good pics like from Monkeyman, Ziggy,Rami and Simon F.......and so on...hope I don't forget someone..Cause I feel the human not only the sex in this pics...
Thanks guys...

But some private pics...my god make lovely good girls to cheap ones....sorry,that was my feeeling...

Be respect to everyone also to the ladyboys...

I personaly don't take a camara into a bar and when I ask for he o.k.
I don't have a poket camera...Normaly I use my Minolta 9 lenses from 2.8-17 to 4-600 and my new digital a Sony alpha with same lenses.....
So all not small ones....
I have many pics from well known ladyboys.....But I have respect to the ladyboys as for everyone member or non member...




Thanks
Dieter
P.S.:So please be fair to everyone before you post a photo and anybody fine with it...


P.S

[69billy]

(stogie bear @ Feb. 21 2007,19:19) Well, the attack was specifically aimed at members of this forum, so I assume that he meant that pics were posted by them on here.

What else could it have meant? That peoople on this forum take pics and post them elsewhere?

Anyway - it's bullshit because no-one on this forum even accidently posts a pic up here of a farang in a ladyboy bar. Because even if they do it's removed by one of the mods immediately and I can only think of one person who has ever done it and he's now banned anyway!

 
To me is not the ones with the cameras are the problem. Big asshools are the ones who take there Laptops to LOS or take the LBs GGs to internet cafes showing the girls this form trying to score points by slaging of other BMs...
There the ones you got to wory about..They'll do any kind off shit...Phosting any ones photos any where and saying anything... s
There the ones you should be attacking..I don't normaly attack to anyone but there the biggest fucking cunts in this form and they know who they are.. s

[katoeylover]

(69billy @ Feb. 22 2007,05:14)
To me is not the ones with the cameras are the problem. Big asshools are the ones who take there Laptops to LOS or take the LBs GGs to internet cafes showing the girls this form trying to score points by slaging of other BMs...
There the ones you got to wory about..They'll do any kind off shit...Phosting any ones photos any where and saying anything... s
There the ones you should be attacking..I don't normaly attack to anyone but there the biggest fucking cunts in this form and they know who they are.. s

Well said Billy.

But also for us with loves in Farangland, we dont want our pics posted either.

[katoeylover]

(bigpauly77 @ Feb. 22 2007,02:37)
Let's hope that this new place charges Pattaya not Bangkok prices for drinks, Bf and ST/LT, otherwise it won't last long.

If you read from the start of this thread you will see that the BF and the ST room has been set at 500bt.

[Dieter]

ups...be wrong Costassg take his Lap to Los...???

sorry

Dieter
P.S.: Not the murder are the asshole, it was the bullet who kill!!

[Dieter]

Sorry,but I don't like when someone see Lb's or GG's only as a piece of meat or as play think...

Have respect to any human..

sorry again
Dieter

P.S.:i know ..I could be an asshole

[69billy]

(Dieter @ Feb. 21 2007,23:30) Sorry,but I don't like when someone see Lb's or GG's only as a piece of meat or as play think...

Have respect to any human..

P.S.:i  know ..I could be an asshole

They are the sellers ,we are the buyers..
And I do respect your opinion...

[Dieter]

I know you from here and from a other board as a fair customer....like other...
So go your way....we all have our meanings and styles...and i must say  i respect yours ...
you are for me a fair and honest guy..

So Tunnedup....ups...forget

Dieter..

[Stewart]

If I had been sitting with the girl on the left, I would be famous now as well. Not cool

A Thai friend of the girls, who put himself into the shot.
I am very careful not to post anybodies face, the few times I can't crop a person out I black out the face or replace it ( to date I've used Elvis, Jonny Depp , Gilligan and a smiley )
If it were you sitting with the girl , you WOULD NOT be posted in a picture of mine.

Probably not. But it is about minimising (not eliminating) the risk. If you have the photo on your hard drive....

Doug is spot on for me. Could not have explained it better myself.

Here is another scenario. The new owners of the website fire all the current staff, including Stogie and Monkeyman. Stogie and MM fall on hard times, but still have an expensive ladyboy habit to feed....what might they do? Hmmmmm, x000 member names and photos, maybe a little blackmail, 5000 bucks a shot........might be tempting, who knows

I don't see any upside going to bars that 'encourage' cameras, and lots of potential downside. So I'll continue to minimise the risk by not going to them very often.....although the thought of Eats with puppies might change my mind!!

(Maybe i'll just put a paper bag over my head going into Guess Bar....might improve my chances with Eats as well!   )

[Stewart]

Also, I don't think anyone who's concerned about photos is concerned about them getting posted HERE. Most of the members are pretty concientious and even if there are a few assholes out there, the moderators would quickly delete any offending post.

However, that doesn't mean photos taken in a ladyboy bar can't show up somewhere else.
Also, that doesn't mean that everyone taking those photos is going to be an angelic good ol' boy.

Correct. It's not here I am worried about.

And I remember just a few weeks ago that someone was suggesting we all send an e-mail to the Cyprus Police to out Costass. That is EXACTLY the sort of crap I am talking about