Any decent jobs in LOS?

[sukhumvitpoler]

Ok guys, im sick of working in england having to suck sweaty cock or back stab and bitch to try and get my foot on the career ladder........

Are there any decent jobs available in LOS or would somewhere like HK be a better place to look?

I dont have that much work experience....having pissed about getting my BA degree (finance) and MBA (masters of business administration)

Anyone got any tips??? ive applied for loads of jobs in the UK and always get knocked back because i dont have 10 years experience or a pair of top quality silocone ladyboy tits

[rxpharm]

Try reading a these two threads: Businesses in Thailand, What business to buy?

Some jobs available in Bangkok

Something you need to realize is that you can only have the same kind of salary you had at home if you are able to get an ex-pat package with a multi-national company. These positions are becoming rare. These companies are moving to hire qualified nationals at higher end Thai salaries (quite a bit lower than an ex-pat salary + benefits).

That said, the cost of living in Thailand is a lot less. You need to balance your salary expectations out with how much you really want to live in LOS.

[Snick]

Singapore would be the place to look, HK 2nd
The odds of getting a good job in Bangkok are very slim.

[stogie bear]

What do you consider 'decent'?

[SukhumvitRoad]

(Snick @ Aug. 29 2008,08:48) Singapore would be the place to look, HK 2nd
The odds of getting a good job in Bangkok are very slim.

I'd say that's good advice. Singapore is one of the more foreign-friendly work destinations in Asia. Unlike Thailand, the visa structure there makes it easy for businesses to hire the people they need regardless of their nationality. Thai businesses, by contrast, have far less interest in actually accomplishing anything than they do in making sure that foreigners don't have any meaningful role.

[manarak]

sukpoler, I got a profile similar to yours, I can tell you, there are no jobs for us in Thailand, except if we get extremely lucky.
The multinational businesses tend to not advertise their Thailand positions - I guess they have enough internal candidates - I wonder why ??

So that leaves us with the option of starting a business to earn $$ on our own.

[sukhumvitpoler]

Cheers for the coments lads, they confirm what i already suspected and dreaded - thai companies dont like employing farangs because we wont work 70 hours a week for noodles, and setting up a business is ten times harder than in the UK.

Also i dont fancy teaching because if they kids are anything like they are in the uk id probably have kicked afew heads in by the end of the first day.
I know thai's might actually want to learn...but even so...i think id have a nervous breakdown in a week

[stogie bear]

The teaching racket would drive you nuts. It works for some but most of us (as we get older) don't have the temperament to do it full time.

Starting a business can be hard work but Thailand is a land full of opportunities.

[sukhumvitpoler]

im there in 2 weeks, so i guess i will have to keep my eye out for opportunities, if that fails i'll be fucking LB's morning, noon and night !

[Snick]

(sukhumvitpoler @ Aug. 30 2008,00:04) Cheers for the coments lads, they confirm what i already suspected and dreaded - thai companies dont like employing farangs because we wont work 70 hours a week for noodles, and setting up a business is ten times harder than in the UK.

Its partially that, but its also the fact that there are less international companies here. Global Companies locate in Singapore, Hong Kong, or KL. Thailand isn't a choice for a variety of reasons, bad infrastructure, lots of red tape, limited pool of qualified English speakers,etc...

BTW if you think Thais work 70 hours/week you are dreaming. 35 hours of 'real' work would be a good week

[stogie bear]

I think he meant 'attendance' hours not working hours!

[sukhumvitpoler]

attentance hours and working hours are the same thing to me, i think id prefer to work rather than dossing about but being stuck at the work place, time seems to go fooookin slow that way.

[Guest]

It was my last night in Bangkok and I was chatting with a Swedish bloke I had just met. This man, the Swedish bloke, had introduced himself as Hans, but before the conversation got very far along he told me Hans wasn't his real name.  People were always pulling that one in Bangkok.  The name thing didn't bother me so much, I mean why should I care. It was my last night. Tomorrow I'd be gone.    

We were in a little boozer down on soi 7 drinking and talking about nothing in particular.  I had a plane to catch.  I was going home in a few hours and I wasn't too happy about it.  I looked around the place, at the faces I had come to know, and I told my Swedish friend that I really wished Thailand was a place I could stay, I could live.  He nodded, said something to girl sitting next to him. They laughed and then they were quiet. No one said anything for awhile.  We finished our beers, ordered two more and then I asked him how he did it.  Do what, he said.  You know, live here, work here, make money I said.  What do you do here?

Well he said, I run a business management company. Business management, I said.  Yeah he went on, we consult with other businesses, help them find ways to be more efficient. This wasn't anything I knew about.  I was a builder, that's what I knew.  I also knew being a builder in Thailand was something I did not want to do.  Hans told me more about his company and when he was finished I asked him if this business management thing was something he considered before coming to Thailand. He laughed and told me a little story.

I was living in Sweden four or five years back with my wife, a Thai lady, he began.  There was a small convenience store in our apartment complex and after work we would often stop there to buy milk, bread, things we needed for the next day.  The owners of the store were not friendly he said, they were very cold people. My wife became pregnant he told me.  Around the time of the birth she stayed home with the baby and when she came back to the store a few weeks later with our new addition, no one acknowledged the baby at all.  Nothing. Our purchase was totaled up, the cash resister rang, the transaction consummated. That's all we were to these people, a business arrangement.

I am Swedish he said and I was shocked by their ambivalence. A month later we flew to Thailand he said and it was amazing. Everyone wanted to hold the baby, take care of the baby, look at the baby. That was it he said, I knew right then I had to get out of Sweden.  I knew Thailand was the place I wanted to be.  That was the thing I realized before anything, before I even dreamed about a consulting business. I smiled, thanked him for the chat and returned to my hotel.    

Funny thing is, I remember everything that was said that night, even though it happened 10 years ago. I believe I realized on the flight home that this guy had just given me all the information I needed to effect a monumental change my life.  I didn't know how exactly how the pieces would fit together, only that they would.  I wanted to live in Thailand. That's what I knew. The rest, would come, I was pretty sure about that.  To make a long short, less than 6 months later, I liquidated my meager possessions and bought a one way ticket to Bangkok.  At the time I only knew this was where I wanted to be.

Now you might be thinking... that's all fine and dandy mate, but what has this got to do with me? The fact of the matter is and I say this with all sincerity it has everything to do with you.  I forgot who started this thread for a moment, but sukhumvitpoler, ok... got it.  Here's the deal mate.  If you're a guy who has worked for other people most of his life, been involved in a company, had a J.O.B. then you're gonna have to do a bit of soul searching.  Those kind of opportunities are few and far between here.  I'm not saying they don't exist, but positions like that seem to be best arranged before arrival not after.  

But if you have the intent... and  I believe this is the key... the intent that you want to live here, then start imagining ways that you could make that happen.  First of all, forget about going to work for somebody else and start thinking. What do you know about, what can you do better than anyone else, what excites you, besides ladyboys     Take an inventory of your talents and start to work it front to back.  Go to Chinatown for a day.  Walk around the night market there... head out to J.J. on the weekend. There is so much stuff here.  Hot shit stuff.  How are your computer skills?  Can you write programs? Can you write html.  Can you work with Dreamweaver.  Do you know what people want.  Can you sell.  

Shit... I think I'm rambling here, but the point is... it's more than possible.  Mistakes will be made, lessons hopefully will be learned and in the end you just might find that along the way you have created a life for yourself in this amazaing place they call Thailand.

Cheers mate!!!

[Rollo Tomasi]

What a first post!

Great inspiring read, friend. I hope more people read it.

[manarak]

But if you have the intent... and I believe this is the key... the intent that you want to live here, then start imagining ways that you could make that happen. First of all, forget about going to work for somebody else and start thinking. What do you know about, what can you do better than anyone else, what excites you, besides ladyboys Take an inventory of your talents and start to work it front to back. Go to Chinatown for a day. Walk around the night market there... head out to J.J. on the weekend. There is so much stuff here. Hot shit stuff. How are your computer skills? Can you write programs? Can you write html. Can you work with Dreamweaver. Do you know what people want. Can you sell.

Shit... I think I'm rambling here, but the point is... it's more than possible. Mistakes will be made, lessons hopefully will be learned and in the end you just might find that along the way you have created a life for yourself in this amazaing place they call Thailand.

I was all with you at the beginning of you post through the middle, but I think the end is too simplistic...

A single guy can probably survive if he's clever and/or hardworking, but if you have a family, you have much more to support.