Israel

[blonde_havoc]

(travis bickle @ Jun. 04 2010,02:41)

(Bumpa STIKKA @ Jun. 04 2010,02:20)

...if the Arabs laid down all arms there would be peace but if Israel laid down all arms there would be no Israel........

Exactly!

That's a surprise.BS-
What arms have the palestinians to "lay down"?

6500+ rockets and counting...

[Jake_Sully]

Kinda offtopic but that decisevily proves the argument of an armed society is a quiet society to be false.

[f0xxee]

(Tomcat @ Jun. 03 2010,21:16)

(f0xxee @ Jun. 03 2010,20:41) Anyone get where I am going here?

Well your definately not going to the Movies are you...We all know who runs Tinseltown

See my remarks about holding worldwide media sympathy....
And I don't go to the movies anyhow. Thats why 52 inch HD TV's, surround sound and DVD players were invented. So I can go to the fridge, scratch my nuts, skin a cigarette, make a call and read a book while enjoying Hollywoods finest....

[Guest]

(BlueBallz @ Jun. 04 2010,03:04) The Arab world doesnt have any arms??  What did they attack Israel with in 1948, 1956, and 1973 slingshots???  And in 1967 what did they do throw Molotov cocktails at the IDF??  Thats rubbish they have PLENTY of arms.  Those homicide bombers how did they blow themselves up with a bunch of M 80s???

In the dying days of the Clinton Administartions he had brokered a deal to give The Palestinians Gaza, half of Jeruslaem and over 90% of the West Bank.  Like the Red Shirts last month, he refused!!  Why???

You are telling me that Hamas doesnt have access to sophisticated weapons??  Do me a fucking favor.  Israel are damned if they do, damned if they dont.  I still stand beside the comment I made:  If the Arabs laid down their arms there would be peace but if Israel laid down their arms there would be no Israel......AND A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD BE ECSTATIC ABOUT THAT!!!

Actually The "Palestinians" do have teir own state and its called The Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan.  What did that pipsqueak King Hussein do back in the late 60's when there was an uprising??  It made what Israel has done the past 20 years look like  a tea party and a pillow fight!!!

We could go on forever about who did what to whom....the original terrorists in 1948 were the Jews under Menachim Begin who,among other things kidnapped and hung 2 British army sergeants and booby trapped the bodies to maim their colleagues who recovered them.Have you ever heard of "deir Yassin"-google it-it was an Arab village where everyone was murdered including the children,so the arabs would flee in terror ,and leave the land for the new settlers.It worked so sucessfully,theyve been doing it ever since.

Israel is not interested in peace.If there was peace,then there would have no need to maintain its terrorist army,it would not need  to claim its 10 billion dollars it recieves in aid from the usa every year,on the pretext its under attack.
As for the the claim about 6,500 rockets-hahahahah-what a joke-glorified fireworks,how many have they actually killed?-2 people isnt it? The arab neighbours who attacked Israel back in the day have been resoundly beaten by superior firepower ,provided by America-They know they can never defeat Israel,who  also have a nuclear option as you know-so why would they try.The myth that Israel is under attack is just that a "myth",and as long as people like you repeat it,you give it credence.
The Palestinians have no weapons as such,a few ak47's at the most-as was demonstrated last year when they killed 100 civilians for every IDF member killed.Some people on this forum applaud this kill ratio,some wish they could nuke them to build condos on the gaza strip.Strangely enough, I despise those sort of people,because its those sort of people who caused the Jews to flee Europe in the first place.
BTW king Hussein of Jordan was  a quisling puppet of America,betraying the Egyptians in the war of '72.It was America who kept him and his family in power,and he knew the key to their support was  his friendship with Israel.In return he was kept in power,and assured Israel would never expand westwards.
Stop swallowing the bullshit fox news feeds you BB,do a little of your own research.

[BlueBallz]

You are on the side of Hamas. I am, mostly, on the side of Israel. I know with whom I would rather be associated...........

[BlueBallz]

Oh and if the Palestinians didnt exist, the Arab world would have to make up another bogeyman to blame.

[Guest]

(BlueBallz @ Jun. 04 2010,07:05) You are on the side of Hamas.  I am, mostly, on the side of Israel.  I know with whom I would rather be associated...........

I'm on the side of fairness and justice.I like to treat people like I would like to be treated.I like to see people treated well,and live in freedom,not under oppressive regimes.Why?Well,because it makes my world a safer place,and less likely to put a bomb on the bus that im sitting on!
I'm on the side of the people of Burma against the Military junta there.I was on the side of Solidarity in Poland.I'm on the side of the Democra
cy party in Iran.I,m against the ruling royal family in saudi arabia,because while they live in untold opulence,their people live in poverty.Their power is also guaranteed by the americans incidentally.
Thats why I support the Palestinians.Because of the way they are treated.Unlike most people on this forum,Ive actually spent some time in Israel,albeit briefly,and I was disgusted by what I saw.So I'm speaking from personal knowledge ,unlike bumpa sticker,ive actually met some Palestinians.

[pacman]

Travis, I believe your motives are sincere but I would remind you of that great adage -

Be careful what you wish for.

There are no Black or White answers when you are dealing with injustices.

Tip the balance in the opposite direction & oftentimes you will get an equal & opposite injustice.

And your failure to acknowledge the Iran sponsored, Hamas/Hizbollah orchestrated bombing of Israeli settlements from Lebanon for years when the Israelis had to live with this continual threat does make your argument somewhat biased.

And think about Arafat's extraordinary behaviour in rejecting Clinton's settlement where he achieved far more than the most hopeful negotiator could ever expect. Why did he snatch defeat from the jaws of victory? Because he was ordered not to. His real agenda was exposed for the world to see. The Palestinians have been paying for his intransigence ever since.

[Lefty]

(travis bickle @ Jun. 04 2010,02:41)

(Bumpa STIKKA @ Jun. 04 2010,02:20)

...if the Arabs laid down all arms there would be peace but if Israel laid down all arms there would be no Israel........

Exactly!

That's a surprise.BS-
What arms have the palestinians to "lay down"? Your hatred of the Palestinians blinds you to any logical thought.
What have these poor defenseless destitute people ever done to you? Why do you want to "nuke them?"The quote from BB makes a great soundbite-but its an empty slogan for empty headed people ,and it doesnt stand up to any scrutiny.

  In  your posts on the forum and in our personal visits you always continue to impress me with your thoughts and intellect. If anyone else here basically says what I'm thinking nearly all the time, it has to be you. Hmm, or maybe Strocube.  

[Stewart]

(travis bickle @ Jun. 04 2010,02:41)

(Bumpa STIKKA @ Jun. 04 2010,02:20)

...if the Arabs laid down all arms there would be peace but if Israel laid down all arms there would be no Israel........

Exactly!

That's a surprise.BS-
What arms have the palestinians to "lay down"?

He said Arabs, not Palestinians

[guydesavoy]

(BlueBallz @ Jun. 04 2010,02:57) A horny JAP??  Does that species exist???

It sure does. As long as you're not married to it  

There are no Black or White answers

[kahuna]

My JAP wife was actually very horny...And as time progressed we eventually passed into the oral sex stage...

That's when we would pass each other in the hallway and say, "Fuck You."

Kinda sorta what most of the posters are doing on this thread...

[Bumpa STIKKA]

(travis bickle @ Jun. 04 2010,08:16) I like to see people treated well,and live in freedom,not under oppressive regimes...

Good luck with them Arabs, then!

[tomscam]

(Bumpa STIKKA @ Jun. 04 2010,14:58)

(travis bickle @ Jun. 04 2010,08:16) I like to see people treated well,and live in freedom,not under oppressive regimes...

Good luck with them Arabs, then!  

I'm so looking forward to the day when they introduce Sharia law to my country.


Those Labanese I meet in Sydney are very open minded people who are extremely hospitable to us Anglos. I really hope they are in charge one day so we can truely become free!

[Tomcat]

I think half the Lebanese are Christians. The Falangist Christians actually copied Gen Francos Spain and did in fact preach a real Fascist doctrine in the past.

London has been destroyed by the Islamic migrants who come here and have no intention of integrating and thank god for that. Anyone who fights this virus is a friend of mine. They are the enemy within , unlike in the USA where the muslims seem to have by and large found a place ( so im told anyway). The issues in Israel will exactly the same in Western Europe in the years ahead .

Actually Politics never stacks up like Science... there are no building blocks of arguments that lead to one side being right and one side being wrong...Its just the way it is and no side will ever convince the other to change over.

Like Blueballz states , the true home of the Palesitinians is Jordan. Anyway theres a big enough desert out there to accomodate the lot of them.