Political leanings

[manarak]

could you maybe post summaries of these texts?
I confess I never read them due to their length.

[BlueBallz]

....or better yet post YOUR OWN thoughts PLEASE!!!!

[Torurot]

Read the posts or skip them, your choice.  Most peoples reading skills on this forum are higher than a five year old.  Don't then complain when you don't understand why Somalia is like it is, not as you would wish it to be.  Why the USA GOVERNMENT is a hypocrite, and why when people point this out it does not make them a "hater" of America.    

[manarak]

(Torurot @ Dec. 29 2010,03:17) Read the posts or skip them, your choice.  Most peoples reading skills on this forum are higher than a five year old.  Don't then complain when you don't understand why Somalia is like it is, not as you would wish it to be.  Why the USA GOVERNMENT is a hypocrite, and why when people point this out it does not make them a "hater" of America.    

The forum member's reading skills remain to be proven...
but I am sure I could teach my five year old daughter to copy-paste!

I already read a lot, I'd guess I already know 2/3rds of what's being said and I just don't have the time to read all that stuff. You pasted dozens of long texts, there are no titles and no abstracts.

And I am not complaining about somalia, I just say let's blast the pirates away. next.

P.S. I am sure you read the "confessions of an economic hitman?"

[BlueBallz]

(Torurot @ Dec. 29 2010,03:17) Read the posts or skip them, your choice.  Most peoples reading skills on this forum are higher than a five year old.  Don't then complain when you don't understand why Somalia is like it is, not as you would wish it to be.  Why the USA GOVERNMENT is a hypocrite, and why when people point this out it does not make them a "hater" of America.    

Dont worry I dont bother reading all the crap you cut and paste on here. I would much rather read some of your semi original thoughts......

[Torurot]

Combining two replies. I read "confessions of an economic hitman".  Was he a "hater" of America? I don't think so.  More in line with "patriot". "I already know 2/3rds of what's being said" puts you in a VERY small minority. The majority don't have a SINGLE clue what is being done in their name. Wikileaks is a small window and that's just to minor, unimportant NON SECRET stuff.

Do you know who Uri Avnery is?  A Jewish "patriot", long time member & organiser of the Israeli peace block [Gush Shalom], and ex politician in the Israeli parliament. who points out the purely racist state of Israel, a country exists in it's current form due to US political/military/religious/$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ support for it's illegal acts over a 60 year time frame.  Detect a theme?  I couldn't write a better article which points it all out chapter and verse if I tried.

The other article simply pointed out a few of the more glaring and egregious acts of "recent" US government policy and action, many of them ILLEGAL under international AND US laws that in a number of cases the US itself drafted!  Oh the irony.  In your name American readers.  Does that make one an "American hater"?  

If your not interested why read, even look in a SPECIFIC politics thread in an area called the FISHBOX?  Are you interested in politics or not?

My previous post in this tread was back on the 11th Dec, some weeks ago. Hardly overload. If you want more go to the source sites.

If you want a more simple picture thread with less words go to another area of the site.  I can't help you further.  

[pacman]

I don't read all the long posts supplied by Torurot but I read many of them & some of them have been the single best source of information on its respective topic I have come across. And I do read it with my bullshit protector in place, I have been had too many times in the past by well constructed lies presented as fact by a journalist with an agenda.

As for Israel being supported by the US... exactly who supports who? As virtually all major banks are Jewish controlled including the US Federal Reserve, just whose money is being spent here? The Congress might get to vote every year as to the level of financial support they give to Israel but what are their options?

I asked a Yiddish friend of mine once what would happen if the US decided to cancel their support for the state of Israel. He replied "they would bankrupt them by tomorrow morning".

A little bit of hyperbole there but he went on to explain how every major decision that effects the US banking system & the dollar is largely decided by "friends of Israel", i.e. Jewish bankers who oftentimes are being advised by senior Israelis. You can't make this stuff up.

As for Torurot's 'cut'n'pastes', I vote he continues to provide us with every good article he finds. I will decide which ones I need to read.

[strocube]

Love the posts, Torurot. Keep 'em coming.

[El_hefe]

Ixnay on the constant long pasted articles stuck up here. Once in a while I understand posting something interesting seen somewhere else & shared for entertainment or elucidation. This non-stop posting of long political screeds is pretty much out of place on a sex forum & frankly shows a real intellectual laziness & disrespect for the members.

If you have something to say, say it in your own words, don't be quoting your scripture all the time here, or else find an appropriate venue for your lectures amongst your own fellow true believers somewhere. And no, I am not a conservative....

[Torurot]

 Don't look in this specific POLITICAL thread in the FISHBOX if politics of ALL flavours is not your thing. Too hard to use your mouse, finger gesture or page down button to skip posts that don't interest you??   Non stop posting?  You have an interesting definition of non stop.    

Any comment on anything you did ACTUALLY read??

Next......    

[Torurot]

A lighter look at darkness of life.

The shift has hit the fan. And all heaven has broken loose.

€œHeaven??" You say, "Where the hell do you see heaven?€

And yes. If you look at the news headlines from the past year, you€™d have a hell of a time finding any heaven. It€™s a dogma-eat-dogma world out there and everyone seems caught up in the bipolar insanity. Even Poland is polarized €“ the North Poles and the South Poles. We talk about peace in the Middle East and we can€™t even make peace in the Middle West. Here in America, we have a deeply divided body politic. Half the population believes our election system is broken. The other half believes it is fixed.

In 2010, political anger became all the rage, as town hall meetings turned into €œI scream anti-socials,€ and enlightened discourse into heated detestimonials. The Tea Party Movement, a coalition of civil libertarians and uncivil libertarians, provided an ideal cover for mining interests (as in, €œthat€™s mine €¦ that€™s mine €¦ that€™s mine€) to throw barrels of anonymous money into Congressional races to defeat Democratic candidates.

Of course we all know that when it comes to defeating Democratic candidates, no one does it better than the Democrats themselves. In the area of self-defeat, the Democrats are simply unbeatable. Somehow, in just two years they turned a mandate into a man-who-can€™t-get-a-date.


A Wolfowitz in Sheepowitz€™s Clothing?

There is one prime cause of disillusionment, and that is illusionment. And in these challenging times, it€™s understandable how a population can get strung out on hopium. America has been going through a dark night, and who wouldn€™t want a white knight on a dark night €“ albeit a slightly darker white knight?

But a lad and a lack. So far, our lad seems to lack the will or the power to stand up to the forces of endarkened self-interest. Barack Obama€™s neo-liberal foreign policy looks pretty much like George Bush€™s neoconservative one, and disheartened progressives who believed in Obama€™s election rhetoric are beginning to think they fell for the old €œdebate and switch,€ and we ended up with a Wolfowitz in sheepowitz€™s clothing.

On the other hand, how can we expect a President to stand tall, when the body politic is so sickly and out of shape? After all, we€™re still suffering from the lingering effects of Mad Cowboy Disease and chronic electile dysfunction, not to mention irony deficiency and truth decay brought on by weapons of mass distraction. And let€™s not forget the Deficit Inattention Disorder that led to our near-debt experience.


American Middle Class Tops Endangered Species List

To add injury to insult, the American middle class continued to top the Endangered Species List, caught between the lowly criminal at the bottom, and the highly criminal at the top. Maybe I€™m old fashioned, but I€™m nostalgic for the good old days when people robbed banks. Once again in 2010, Chase chased us, Wachovia walked over us, and the name Goldman Sachs tells us all we need to know: We have been sacked by the gold men. Gold-collar criminals have overruled the Golden Rule with the Gold Rules Rule: €œDoo-doo unto others before they can doo-doo unto you.€

And let€™s be honest. Not just the people at the top, but everyone seemed to buy into the boom that could never go bust. And then €¦ BOOM! The bubble popped, and just like that, we€™re busted. So, the moral is: Don€™t put your faith in false profits.

Sadly, the financial fleecing didn€™t awaken the body politic, but it was harder to sleep through the alarming oil spill in the Gulf last spring. So perhaps it takes a pillage AND a spillage to wake the village to stop the drillage and wildlife killage.

The upwising continued to gather esteem in 2010, and the irony curtain is becoming more and more transparent. Wikileaks emerged to challenge our official media, Weaky-Licks, to help end the other €œdon€™t ask, don€™t tell€ policy €“ that€™s where the American people promise not to ask what the government is doing to €œkeep them safe,€ and the government promises not to tell them. When the people choose to not see what is too uncomfortable to look at, the inevitable result is Not-Seeism.


Time to Gather Under One Big Intent

But enough about our small world down here. This is, after all, the State of the Universe, and there€™s a big, big Universe out there, which is pretty much purring in perfection. Which is to say there is a hell of lot of heaven out there.

So, you are asking, why the hell isn€™t heaven here, already? Everything seems to be crashing down, and heaven is nowhere to be found!

As a cautious optimystic, I say that contrary to the way things appear, the sky is not falling. It only looks that way because we are ascending. Yes, thanks to the evolutionary upwising and the recently declared state of emerge €˜n see (where we emerge from fear and separation and see how we are connected), we humans are better able to rise to the occasion than ever before. And when it comes to rising above whatever has been bringing us down, nothing works like levity.

Now I certainly would never want to impose my spiritual faith on anyone else, but I must declare that I am a FUNdamentalist, accent on the FUN. While some of the less fun fundamentalists believe that heaven is above us, we FUNdamentalists believe that heaven is where we make it. FUNdamentalists are strictly non-dominational, so we have no commandments. But we do have One Suggestion: €œLet€™s go for heaven on earth, just for the hell of it!€

€œOK,€ you protest, €œthat€™s the ideal, but how do we deal with the real deal?€

It€™s simple, although it may not be easy. If the uncommonly wealthy have hijacked the commonwealth, we the people must higher-jack it. And we do so by acting on another FUNdamentalist suggestion: We€™re not here to earn God€™s love, we€™re here to spend it!

That is how heaven is breaking loose, with people spending their love like it€™s going into style. Think about it. Someone comes into a room overflowing with love, and 300 people leave with that love €¦ and pay it forward somewhere else. Love, joy and laughter €¦ they are the loaves and fishes of spiritual nourishment. Yes, heaven has broken loose and we are here to put it together. Each of us €“ if we so choose €“ brings a piece of heaven. You have a little piece here, a little piece there, and before long, you have one big peace everywhere.

So €¦ now is the time for all those heaven-bent on planetary transformation to gather under one big intent that reflects the heart core values shared by humans the world over: €œWe are here to re-grow the Garden, and have a heaven of a time doing it.€

And when the cosmic beings ask, €œOh, by the way, how did the human race turn out?€ the answer will be, €œThey won. They achieved Oneness and won.€ This is the true second coming. The human drama achieves a pleasurable climax, as everyone comes together.

© Copyright 2011 Steve Bhaerman. All rights reserved. Swami Beyondananda is the cosmic comic alter ego of Steve Bhaerman, and can be found online at http://www.wakeuplaughing.com/ And seriously €¦ read Steve€™s serious book with Bruce Lipton, Spontaneous Evolution: Our Positive Future and a Way to Get There From Here, available athttp://www.wakeuplaughing.com/ along with some free bonus articles. For reprint information, please contact [email protected]

[guydesavoy]

I suspect that this will be torn apart by the various 'factions' and cherry-picked according to various agendas 

But it is in fact a quite witty (not to mention intelligent) assessment of the State of the Nation(s)  

[pacman]

(Torurot @ Jan. 15 2011,16:27) After all, we€™re still suffering from the lingering effects of Mad Cowboy Disease and chronic electile dysfunction, not to mention irony deficiency and truth decay brought on by weapons of mass distraction. And let€™s not forget the Deficit Inattention Disorder that led to our near-debt experience.

Clever, clever article...      

The best use of wordplay I have ever seen. I can write one phrase if I think about it, Mr Bhaerman has kept it up for the entire piece. Brilliant.

And he's right about Barack Obama, the guy has lost his way & has adopted the policies of the previous administration. Why?

[guydesavoy]

I think very few people will read this and understand what he is really saying.
Very few

[transcebu]

That is some brilliant writing by Steve Bhaerman!

I could argue some philosophical points, but jeez, that guy's quite a scribbler and deserves a pat on the back!