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Here€™s a little history lesson lads, from a little thing I researched a couple of years back. I called it €œAdam Eve, & Me€, where I traced my blood line as far back as I could. It starts at number 1 which is Adam & Eve, all the way up to my Irish family name. I will not put all of it in as it€™s too big. Just from number 12 and shows who is the descendant of whom.
My point is that, we all come the same point of origin €œThe Middle East€ long before there was any such thing as an Irish, or British nation, and after the last Ice Age, when there was just a few hunters& gatherers in any piece of land. Give your self time to read this! And learn something for a change. I only did the Irish side but it€™s the same story for any one that thinks they are English or British.
What gives mankind the right to draw lines on Mother Earth and say this land belongs to us? Surely it€™s the other way round, mankind belongs to Mother Earth! Mankind is just a venereal disease on Mother Earth, and some day she will shrug us off her shoulders.
12. Magog, מגוג, Μαγωγ, magowg, [ ma'gog ], is the second of the seven sons of Japheth mentioned in the Table of Nations in Genesis 10. It means "from Gog". The root, Gog, means "mountain". Magog is also the name of a mountainous region between Cappadocia and Media.
Magog is also often associated with apocalyptic traditions, mainly in connection with Ezekiel 38 and 39 which mentions "Gog of the land of Magog, chief prince of Meshech and Tubal."
Josephus identified the offspring of Magog as the Scythians, a name used in antiquity for peoples north of the Black Sea. According to him, the Greeks called Scythia Magogia (Ant., bk. I, 6). It has also been variously conjectured that Magog's offspring were the progenitors of the Slavic peoples known to history.
According to some Irish traditions, such as the Irish Chronicles, the Irish race is a composite including descendants of Magog. Baath (Boath), Jobhath, and Fathochta are the three sons of Magog. Partholón, Nemed, and Iobath are Magog's descendants. Magog was supposed to have had a grandchild called Heber, who spread throughout the Mediterranean.
There is also a Hungarian legend that says the Magyars are descended from twin brothers named Hunor and Magor, who lived by the sea of Azov in the years after the flood, and took wives from the Alans. According to the version of this legend in the mediaeval Chronicon Pictum, this Magor is Magog, son of Japheth.
Magog: From whom descended the Parthians, Bactrians, Amazons, etc.; Parthalon, the first planter of Ireland, about 300 years after the Flood; and also the rest of the colonies that planted there, viz., the Nemedians, who planted Ireland, Anno Mundi 3046, or 318 years after the birth of Abraham, and 2153 years before Christ.
The Nemedians continued in Ireland for 217 years; within which time a colony of theirs went into the northern parts of Scotland, under the conduct of their leader Briottan Maol, from whom Britain takes its name, and not from "Brutus," as some persons believed.
From Magog were also descended the Belgarian, Belgian, Firbolgian or Firvolgian colony that succeeded the Nemedians, Anno Mundi, 3266, and who first erected Ireland into a Monarchy. (According to some writers, the Fomorians invaded Ireland next after the Nemedians.)
This Belgarian of Firvolgian colony continued in Ireland for 36 years, under 9 of their Kings;
when they were supplanted by the Tuatha-de-Danann , who possessed Ireland for 197 years, during the reigns of nine of their kings; and who were then conquered by the Gaelic, Milesian, or Scotic Nation (the three names by which the Irish people were known), Anno Mundi 3500.
This Milesian or Scotic Irish Nation possessed and enjoyed the Kingdom of Ireland for 2885 years, under 183 Monarchs; until their submission to King Henry the Second of England, Anno Domini in 1186.
13. Boath, one of the sons of Magog; to whom Scythia came as his lot, upon the division of the Earth by Noah amongst his sons, and by Japhet of his part thereof amongst his sons.
14. Fenius Farsa (also Phoeniusa, Phenius, Fénius; Farsaid, Farsaidh, many variant spellings) was a legendary king of Scythia who shows up in many legends of Irish folklore. According to some traditions, he was the creator of the Ogham alphabet and the Gaelic language.
In the Lebor Gabála Érenn (11th C), he is said to be one of the 72 chieftains who built Nimrod's Tower of Babel, but traveled to Scythia after the tower collapsed.
According to the Auraicept na n-Éces, Fenius journeyed from Scythia together with GoÃdel mac Ethéoir, Ãar mac Nema and a retinue of 72 scholars. They came to the plain of Shinar to study the confused languages at Nimrod's tower. Finding that they had already been dispersed, Fenius sent his scholars to study them, staying at the tower, coordinating the effort.
After ten years, the investigations were complete, and Fenius created in Bérla tóbaide "the selected language", taking the best of each of the confused tongues, which he called GoÃdelc, Goidelic, after GoÃdel mac Ethéoir. He also created extensions of GoÃdelc, called Bérla Féne, after himself, Ãarmberla, after Ãar mac Nema, and others, and the Beithe-luis-nuin (the Ogham) as a perfected writing system for his languages. The names he gave to the letters were those of his 25 best scholars.
Auraicept claims that Fenius Farsaidh discovered four alphabets, the Hebrew, Greek and Latin ones, and finally the Ogham, and that the Ogham is the most perfected because it was discovered last.
Phoeniusa Farsaidh (or Fenius Farsa) was King of Scythia, at the time when Ninus ruled the Assyrian Empire; and, being a wise man and desirous to learn the languages that not long before confounded the builders of the Tower of Babel, employed able and learned men to go among the dispersed multitude to learn their several languages; who sometime after returning well skilled in what they went for.
Phœniusa Farsaidh erected a school in the valley of Senaar, near the city of Æothena, in the forty-second year of the reign of Ninus; whereupon, having continued there with his younger son Niul for twenty years, he returned home to his kingdom, which, at his death, he left to the oldest son Nenuall; leaving to Niul no other patrimony than his learning and the benefit of the said school.
15. Niul, after his father returned to Scythia, continued some time at Å“othena, teaching the languages and other laudable sciences, until upon report of his great learning he was invited into Egypt by The Pharaoh Cinqueris.
The Pharaoh Cinqueris, gave him the land of Campus Cyrunt, near the Red Sea to inhabit, and his daughter Scota in marriage; from whom their posterity are ever since called Scots;
It was this Niul that employed Gaodhal Gael, son of Ethor, a learned and skilful man, to compose or rather refine and adorn the language, called Bearla Tobbai, which was common to all Niul's future generations, and afterwards called Gaodhilg (or Gaelic), from the said Gaodhal who composed or refined it; and for his sake also Niul called his own eldest son "Gaodhal."
16. Gaodhal (or Gathelus), the son of Niul, and ancestor of Clan-na-Gael, that is, "the children or descendants of Gaodhal".
Gaodhal in his youth ended up in Egypt and was stung in the neck by a serpent, and was immediately brought to Moses, who, laying his rod upon the wounded place, instantly cured him; whence followed the word "Glas" to be added to his named, as Gaodhal Glas (glas: Irish, green; Lat. glaucus; Gr. glaukos), on account of the green scar which the word signifies, and which, during his life, remained on his neck after the wound was healed.
And Gaodhal obtained a further blessing from Moses, namely a prophecy, that no venomous beast can live any time where his descentants should inhabit; which is verified in Creta or Candia, Gothia or Getulia, Ireland, etc. And also the prophecy that one day his descendants would live on a happy western island free of serpents.
The Irish chroniclers affirm that from this time Gaodhal and his descendants did paint the figures of Beasts, Birds, etc., on their banners and shields, to distinguish their tribes and septs, in imitation of the Israelites; and that a "Thunderbolt" was the knowledge and awareness in their chief standard for many generations after this Gaodhal.
GoÃdel Glas, the eponymous ancestor of the Gaels, who created the Gaelic language by combining the best features of the 72 languages then in existence.
17. Asruth, after his father's death, continued in Egypt and governed his colony in peace during his life.
18. Sruth, soon after his father's death, was set upon by the Egyptians, on account of their former animosities towards their predecessors for having taken part with the Israelites against them; which animosities until then lay raked up in the embers, and now broke out in a flame to that degree, that after many battles and conflicts wherein most of his colony lost their live, Sruth was forced with the few remaining to depart the country; and, after many traverses at sea, arrived at the Island of Creta (now called Candia), where he paid his last tribute to nature.
19. Heber Scut (scut: Irish, a Scot), after his father's death and a year's stay in Creta, departed thence, leaving some of his people to inhabit the Island, where some of their descendants likely still remain; "because the Island breeds no venomous serpent ever since." He and his people soon after arrived in Scythia; where his cousins, the descendants of Nenuall (eldest son of Fenius Farsa, above mentioned), refusing to allot a place of habitation for him and his colony, they fought many battles wherein Heber (with the assistance of some of the natives who were ill-affected towards their king), being always victor, he at length forced the sovereignty from the other, and settled himself and his colony in Scythia, who continued there for four generations. (Hence the epithet Scut, "a Scot" or "a Scythian," was applied to this Heber, who was accordingly called Heber Scot.) Heber Scot was afterwards slain in battle by Noemus the former king's son.
20. Baouman; king of Scythia, but in constant war with the natives.
21 Ogaman; king of Scythia, but also in constant war with the natives.
22. Tait, Also king of Scythia, but in constant war with the natives. So after Tait's death his son, Agnon left Scythia and took to the sea.
My point is that, we all come the same point of origin €œThe Middle East€ long before there was any such thing as an Irish, or British nation, and after the last Ice Age, when there was just a few hunters& gatherers in any piece of land. Give your self time to read this! And learn something for a change. I only did the Irish side but it€™s the same story for any one that thinks they are English or British.
What gives mankind the right to draw lines on Mother Earth and say this land belongs to us? Surely it€™s the other way round, mankind belongs to Mother Earth! Mankind is just a venereal disease on Mother Earth, and some day she will shrug us off her shoulders.
12. Magog, מגוג, Μαγωγ, magowg, [ ma'gog ], is the second of the seven sons of Japheth mentioned in the Table of Nations in Genesis 10. It means "from Gog". The root, Gog, means "mountain". Magog is also the name of a mountainous region between Cappadocia and Media.
Magog is also often associated with apocalyptic traditions, mainly in connection with Ezekiel 38 and 39 which mentions "Gog of the land of Magog, chief prince of Meshech and Tubal."
Josephus identified the offspring of Magog as the Scythians, a name used in antiquity for peoples north of the Black Sea. According to him, the Greeks called Scythia Magogia (Ant., bk. I, 6). It has also been variously conjectured that Magog's offspring were the progenitors of the Slavic peoples known to history.
According to some Irish traditions, such as the Irish Chronicles, the Irish race is a composite including descendants of Magog. Baath (Boath), Jobhath, and Fathochta are the three sons of Magog. Partholón, Nemed, and Iobath are Magog's descendants. Magog was supposed to have had a grandchild called Heber, who spread throughout the Mediterranean.
There is also a Hungarian legend that says the Magyars are descended from twin brothers named Hunor and Magor, who lived by the sea of Azov in the years after the flood, and took wives from the Alans. According to the version of this legend in the mediaeval Chronicon Pictum, this Magor is Magog, son of Japheth.
Magog: From whom descended the Parthians, Bactrians, Amazons, etc.; Parthalon, the first planter of Ireland, about 300 years after the Flood; and also the rest of the colonies that planted there, viz., the Nemedians, who planted Ireland, Anno Mundi 3046, or 318 years after the birth of Abraham, and 2153 years before Christ.
The Nemedians continued in Ireland for 217 years; within which time a colony of theirs went into the northern parts of Scotland, under the conduct of their leader Briottan Maol, from whom Britain takes its name, and not from "Brutus," as some persons believed.
From Magog were also descended the Belgarian, Belgian, Firbolgian or Firvolgian colony that succeeded the Nemedians, Anno Mundi, 3266, and who first erected Ireland into a Monarchy. (According to some writers, the Fomorians invaded Ireland next after the Nemedians.)
This Belgarian of Firvolgian colony continued in Ireland for 36 years, under 9 of their Kings;
when they were supplanted by the Tuatha-de-Danann , who possessed Ireland for 197 years, during the reigns of nine of their kings; and who were then conquered by the Gaelic, Milesian, or Scotic Nation (the three names by which the Irish people were known), Anno Mundi 3500.
This Milesian or Scotic Irish Nation possessed and enjoyed the Kingdom of Ireland for 2885 years, under 183 Monarchs; until their submission to King Henry the Second of England, Anno Domini in 1186.
13. Boath, one of the sons of Magog; to whom Scythia came as his lot, upon the division of the Earth by Noah amongst his sons, and by Japhet of his part thereof amongst his sons.
14. Fenius Farsa (also Phoeniusa, Phenius, Fénius; Farsaid, Farsaidh, many variant spellings) was a legendary king of Scythia who shows up in many legends of Irish folklore. According to some traditions, he was the creator of the Ogham alphabet and the Gaelic language.
In the Lebor Gabála Érenn (11th C), he is said to be one of the 72 chieftains who built Nimrod's Tower of Babel, but traveled to Scythia after the tower collapsed.
According to the Auraicept na n-Éces, Fenius journeyed from Scythia together with GoÃdel mac Ethéoir, Ãar mac Nema and a retinue of 72 scholars. They came to the plain of Shinar to study the confused languages at Nimrod's tower. Finding that they had already been dispersed, Fenius sent his scholars to study them, staying at the tower, coordinating the effort.
After ten years, the investigations were complete, and Fenius created in Bérla tóbaide "the selected language", taking the best of each of the confused tongues, which he called GoÃdelc, Goidelic, after GoÃdel mac Ethéoir. He also created extensions of GoÃdelc, called Bérla Féne, after himself, Ãarmberla, after Ãar mac Nema, and others, and the Beithe-luis-nuin (the Ogham) as a perfected writing system for his languages. The names he gave to the letters were those of his 25 best scholars.
Auraicept claims that Fenius Farsaidh discovered four alphabets, the Hebrew, Greek and Latin ones, and finally the Ogham, and that the Ogham is the most perfected because it was discovered last.
Phoeniusa Farsaidh (or Fenius Farsa) was King of Scythia, at the time when Ninus ruled the Assyrian Empire; and, being a wise man and desirous to learn the languages that not long before confounded the builders of the Tower of Babel, employed able and learned men to go among the dispersed multitude to learn their several languages; who sometime after returning well skilled in what they went for.
Phœniusa Farsaidh erected a school in the valley of Senaar, near the city of Æothena, in the forty-second year of the reign of Ninus; whereupon, having continued there with his younger son Niul for twenty years, he returned home to his kingdom, which, at his death, he left to the oldest son Nenuall; leaving to Niul no other patrimony than his learning and the benefit of the said school.
15. Niul, after his father returned to Scythia, continued some time at Å“othena, teaching the languages and other laudable sciences, until upon report of his great learning he was invited into Egypt by The Pharaoh Cinqueris.
The Pharaoh Cinqueris, gave him the land of Campus Cyrunt, near the Red Sea to inhabit, and his daughter Scota in marriage; from whom their posterity are ever since called Scots;
It was this Niul that employed Gaodhal Gael, son of Ethor, a learned and skilful man, to compose or rather refine and adorn the language, called Bearla Tobbai, which was common to all Niul's future generations, and afterwards called Gaodhilg (or Gaelic), from the said Gaodhal who composed or refined it; and for his sake also Niul called his own eldest son "Gaodhal."
16. Gaodhal (or Gathelus), the son of Niul, and ancestor of Clan-na-Gael, that is, "the children or descendants of Gaodhal".
Gaodhal in his youth ended up in Egypt and was stung in the neck by a serpent, and was immediately brought to Moses, who, laying his rod upon the wounded place, instantly cured him; whence followed the word "Glas" to be added to his named, as Gaodhal Glas (glas: Irish, green; Lat. glaucus; Gr. glaukos), on account of the green scar which the word signifies, and which, during his life, remained on his neck after the wound was healed.
And Gaodhal obtained a further blessing from Moses, namely a prophecy, that no venomous beast can live any time where his descentants should inhabit; which is verified in Creta or Candia, Gothia or Getulia, Ireland, etc. And also the prophecy that one day his descendants would live on a happy western island free of serpents.
The Irish chroniclers affirm that from this time Gaodhal and his descendants did paint the figures of Beasts, Birds, etc., on their banners and shields, to distinguish their tribes and septs, in imitation of the Israelites; and that a "Thunderbolt" was the knowledge and awareness in their chief standard for many generations after this Gaodhal.
GoÃdel Glas, the eponymous ancestor of the Gaels, who created the Gaelic language by combining the best features of the 72 languages then in existence.
17. Asruth, after his father's death, continued in Egypt and governed his colony in peace during his life.
18. Sruth, soon after his father's death, was set upon by the Egyptians, on account of their former animosities towards their predecessors for having taken part with the Israelites against them; which animosities until then lay raked up in the embers, and now broke out in a flame to that degree, that after many battles and conflicts wherein most of his colony lost their live, Sruth was forced with the few remaining to depart the country; and, after many traverses at sea, arrived at the Island of Creta (now called Candia), where he paid his last tribute to nature.
19. Heber Scut (scut: Irish, a Scot), after his father's death and a year's stay in Creta, departed thence, leaving some of his people to inhabit the Island, where some of their descendants likely still remain; "because the Island breeds no venomous serpent ever since." He and his people soon after arrived in Scythia; where his cousins, the descendants of Nenuall (eldest son of Fenius Farsa, above mentioned), refusing to allot a place of habitation for him and his colony, they fought many battles wherein Heber (with the assistance of some of the natives who were ill-affected towards their king), being always victor, he at length forced the sovereignty from the other, and settled himself and his colony in Scythia, who continued there for four generations. (Hence the epithet Scut, "a Scot" or "a Scythian," was applied to this Heber, who was accordingly called Heber Scot.) Heber Scot was afterwards slain in battle by Noemus the former king's son.
20. Baouman; king of Scythia, but in constant war with the natives.
21 Ogaman; king of Scythia, but also in constant war with the natives.
22. Tait, Also king of Scythia, but in constant war with the natives. So after Tait's death his son, Agnon left Scythia and took to the sea.
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