Vietnam holds Glitter in child sex abuse inquiry

[Guest]

I don't understand your point are you saying because there are other things happening in this world which some people consider horrible and uneccessary and probably even preventable that those who are outrage over paedophilia should not speak up because are not also speaking up about the other attrocities. Surely you can't be serious?

I think you may have been around prostitutes and deviants too long as I think you may have become a little de-sensitised to these things.

Using your agrument I could say that there is nothing wrong with incest etc as we have just been programmed to believe it is wrong.

[Guest]

I don't understand your point are you saying because there are other things happening in this world which some people consider horrible and uneccessary and probably even preventable that those who are outrage over paedophilia should not speak up because are not also speaking up about the other attrocities. Surely you can't be serious?

I think you may have been around prostitutes and deviants too long as I think you may have become a little de-sensitised to these things.

Using your agrument I could say that there is nothing wrong with incest etc as we have just been programmed to believe it is wrong.  

"I don't understand your point"

I'd say you don't. He's talking about proportion and social learning. You obviously don't understand any sense of proportion, and you can't see your own behaviour. How ridiculous you look acting under the spell of what's been drummed into your head.

"Using your agrument I could say that there is nothing wrong with incest etc as we have just been programmed to believe it is wrong."

Exactly.

[Guest]

I don't understand your point are you saying because there are other things happening in this world which some people consider horrible and uneccessary and probably even preventable that those who are outrage over paedophilia should not speak up because are not also speaking up about the other attrocities. Surely you can't be serious?

I think you may have been around prostitutes and deviants too long as I think you may have become a little de-sensitised to these things.

Using your agrument I could say that there is nothing wrong with incest etc as we have just been programmed to believe it is wrong.  

"I don't understand your point"

I'd say you don't. He's talking about proportion and social learning. You obviously don't understand any sense of proportion, and you can't see your own behaviour. How ridiculous you look acting under the spell of what's been drummed into your head.

"Using your agrument I could say that there is nothing wrong with incest etc as we have just been programmed to believe it is wrong."

Exactly.

Well Grunyen you are clearly one of the worlds great philosophers and I would be not be of sound mind to challenge your sparkling intellect. I particularly do not wish to look any more ridiculous thank you for setting me straight.

[stogie bear]

It's a touchy subject.

[Tomcat]

Ladyboys and Gentlemen of the forum , heres a llittle snippet from the Daily Telegraph that you can contemplate whilst chilling out in your favourite opium den.

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Gadd now personifies the western sex tourist , despite a lack of actual criminal charges in South Asia. He was previously aquitted of sexual realations with a teenager as the News of the Worlds paid for the story and no evidence.

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Gadd was acquitted at his trial. The BBC reported that the trial judge, Mr Justice Butterfield, expressed the view that the pay-out by the News of the World was "highly reprehensible" adding that "It is not illegal but it is to be greatly deprecated".
"

All he has is one offence for internet porn. Its all a sordid myth

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And so there you are folks. The truth . I hate the Tabloid press even more now.

TC

[allstar88]

he has gotten in arrested for the same thing in Camboada.

No, he hasn't. He was asked to leave (deported) without specific reasons made public.

Until he has been found guilty of a crime I disapprove of then he's welcome to break bread with me. This media witch hunt seems to have some merit this time around, though.

Let's wait and see before we pronounce the guilty verdict, eh?

The age of consent in Thailand is 15, however if you pay for sex the minimum age is 18 although strictly speaking paying for sex is illegal!

Confusing isn't it!  

The law in Thailand

after breaking bread i would break glitters f**cking neck!!              

[Guest]

Well molestation charges have been laid against Glitter who is charged with having sex with at least 10 under age girls in Vietnam with at least one of them being 12 years old. Age of consent in Vietnam is 16. I mean a 60 year old having sex with girls under 16 is both morally and legally wrong no matter how you look at it.

Yes I know innocent until proven guilty but I am sure a few of you will argue that even if guilty it is still not wrong

[Guest]

Looks like I might be wrong about the age of consent but not 100% sure.

Age of consent

[mirimark]

Sex with a 10 year by an adult is rape as the mental capacity of most 10 year olds would never make that a consensual action surely.

THE MIND OF A 10yr. Child =
Gullible,,,Vulnerable,,,Inexperienced,,,Intellectu ally
mis-matched. I personally consisder this rape. Maybe not Forced rape, but rape.

IF their minds not ready, I'm not ready to convence them.

[tropical]

THE MIND OF A 10yr. Child =
Gullible,,,Vulnerable,,,Inexperienced,,,Intellectu ally
mis-matched.  I personally consisder this rape.  Maybe not Forced rape, but rape.

IF their minds not ready, I'm not ready to convence them.

 Well said Mirimark,excellent post.

Stogie,
 I hope you never get  the chance to break bread with that freak Glitter,especially if you have your 10yr old daughter staying over.

Sex actually doesn't hurt - even if you don't understand it!

How the hell would you know whether it hurts or not to have sex at the age of 10 even if you dont understand it???
 You cant pontificate that a child wouldnt be harmed (mentally or physically) if sex was experienced at these young ages.
 I havent missed your point ,but you have definetly used very poor analogies to try and convey your thoughts.
 

[stogie bear]

Sex with a 10 year old is wrong.

Raping a 10 year old is worse.

Child sex (or sex with minors) is endemic in many Asian cultures. Even sex with pre-pubescent children is not a rarity.

It seems that some people have a new definition for the word rape that isn't in a dictionary. Rape is a violent crime that forces someone to do a sexual act or recieve sexual attention against their will.

In countries like Cambodia, Vietnam and Thailand (and many others, too) children have sex with adults. They are not forced and they are not raped. They also can't possibly enjoy it in a sexual way, either because they are too young.

(Of course, many are also raped, beaten and systematically abused, also.)

It's not right but it does happen. Hysterically labelling all under age sex as 'rape' is absurd and misleading.

Until Gary Glitter is found guilty in a court of law of an offence involving the sexual abuse of children then I will continue to play his records.

Personally there are far worse things happening to children that people with sexual hang ups (Christians, etc) refuse to face up to.

Drunk driver cripples a 14 year old child for life. Gets 2 years in Jail. Drunk uncle has sex with 14 year old child gets 20 years and is socially ostracised for life! Both are crimes. One is punished by a hysterical witch hunt and one isn't. Can you guess which one?

Who is protecting kids from drunk drivers?

[Tomcat]

Glitter has still not been charged and may even get bail.
He can be held for 3 months without charge.

What people have to take on board is that the UK tabloid press have been hounding him for years only because his famous . As i previously stated the last case against him was thrown out as the News Of The World News paper paid thousands to a girl to fabricate the whole affair.

I doubt if this case is any different and we all know that a newspaper is behind it and paying money. One day they may pick on guys posting here going into the fleshpots of Bankok and flash the images across the tacky pages of there useless chronicles

The News of The Wolrd Newspaper is one of those publications that exist purely to help sad uneducated low lifes escape from the day to day drudgery of their hopeless lives.
And Glitter just happens to be todays fodder.

Who will they pick on next?

[tropical]

[/QUOTE] They are not forced and they are not raped. They also can't possibly enjoy it in a sexual way, either because they are too young.


What the fuck are you on about? The above statement sounds like it comes from the Peodophiles handbook.
 Does the above statement mean that these children would not be harmed either physically or mentally either because of their young age?
[/QUOTE]Drunk driver cripples a 14 year old child for life. Gets 2 years in Jail. Drunk uncle has sex with 14 year old child gets 20 years and is socially ostracised for life! Both are crimes. One is punished by a hysterical witch hunt and one isn't. Can you guess which one?

Who is protecting kids from drunk drivers?  

  Your moral standing on drunk driving is to be applauded but your arguments about the abuse of children is somewhat frightening.
Does a drunk driver set out to prey on a victim in the same way that these filthy scum do?
 I am sure your not morally condoning the activities of these freaks.
 I am not really sure I want to continue reading this post,I think I will just head back to the other parts of the forum.

[stogie bear]

Does a drunk driver set out to prey on a victim in the same way that these filthy scum do?

Nobody drives drunk by accident. It's a conscious decision to put lives in great danger. People who put lives in danger should be penalised harshly.

Given a choice I would rather my daughter had sex with a man than be crippled for life by a drunk driver.

Of course it's not a choice anyone would likely face, though.

I agree with the post about the tabloid press. These sad rags are for infants who can't think for themselves.

[mirimark]

I must admit and Plead that I am a Hypocrite on this subject. I Love'em young but only to a point.
pre-pubic seems alittle hard for me to except. But hey, some young'ins mature early.

I am just going to shut the hell up and back on out of this topic. This is one of those Horse Pills thats just Fucking hard to swallow.