Don Imus

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(ziggystardust @ Apr. 15 2007,12:46) What about freedom of speech on this forum?

This forum is not the property of you or Stephan Dion or any other Canuch-do-gooder.

Nothing entitles you to free speech on someone's private property.

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(kahuna @ Apr. 15 2007,04:23) Good for you sangabriel...you sound like a happy soul...

cheers,

kahuna

I am quite happy in fact. I am also at peace knowing that hate is normal human feeling.

If more people would stop going wobbly and rent a spine now and then, and perhaps even hate those who are a danger to liberal, secular values, then perhaps western civilization would not be threatened as it is. Instead, people want to talk and understand the people who hate them, and who want to destroy what we value. That is pure folly.

If, as you say, hating our enemy makes us like them, well then I would stipulate that it is important that we get them before they get us!

Free people should stop trying to coexist with killers like those in Waziristan or Narathiwat. Jihadists and other bearded sociopaths need to be culled outright. A little hate for what should be hated would be highly therapeutic for the human gene pool.

[stogie bear]

I find 'hate' to be very theraputic.

It's good for the soul to evacuate all that negativity out especially on to a forum where nothing means anything really.

I'm a pretty grumpy chap for the most part and my happiest moments are hating things!  

[stogie bear]

If more people would stop going wobbly and rent a spine now and then, and perhaps even hate those who are a danger to liberal, secular values, then perhaps western civilization would not be threatened as it is. Instead, people want to talk and understand the people who hate them, and who want to destroy what we value. That is pure folly.

If, as you say, hating our enemy makes us like them, well then I would stipulate that it is important that we get them before they get us!

Free people should stop trying to coexist with killers like those in Waziristan or Narathiwat. Jihadists and other bearded sociopaths need to be culled outright. A little hate for what should be hated would be highly therapeutic for the human gene pool.

That's the best thing I've read here for ages...

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Sangabriel, it amazes me how you get a thrill at personal punches. If you'd stick to commentary, you're actually quite ok. I don't agree with many things you say, but I'm not here to agree with everything. The frequent personal punches degrade some the merit of many of your comments.

"Canuch-do-gooder?"

Ok. Thank-you for that totally unrelated feedback to this thread (it's Canuck by the way).

[kahuna]

(sangabriel @ Apr. 15 2007,13:15)

(kahuna @ Apr. 15 2007,04:23) Good for you sangabriel...you sound like a happy soul...

cheers,

kahuna

I am quite happy in fact. I am also at peace knowing that hate is normal human feeling.

If more people would stop going wobbly and rent a spine now and then, and perhaps even hate those who are a danger to liberal, secular values, then perhaps western civilization would not be threatened as it is. Instead, people want to talk and understand the people who hate them, and who want to destroy what we value. That is pure folly.

If, as you say, hating our enemy makes us like them, well then I would stipulate that it is important that we get them before they get us!

Free people should stop trying to coexist with killers like those in Waziristan or Narathiwat. Jihadists and other bearded sociopaths need to be culled outright. A little hate for what should be hated would be highly therapeutic for the human gene pool.

As a devote hater, it's odd that you would select a screen name of a saint...Archangel Gabriel...

And I didn't mention anything about not seeking revenge, or "getting" your enemies before they get
you...My only comment was that "hate" is a very destructive emotion...nothing more...nothing less...
read into that what you want...You can seek revenge or "get" your enemies before they get you without hate...
but whatever floats your boat...

Cheers,

kahuna

[stogie bear]

Hate is good therapy... It's short lived and over before your next breath...

I agree that revenge is a bit weird. A bit like cancer. Best just to hate for a moment, then forget for a lifetime.

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(stogie bear @ Apr. 15 2007,13:57)

If more people would stop going wobbly and rent a spine now and then, and perhaps even hate those who are a danger to liberal, secular values, then perhaps western civilization would not be threatened as it is. Instead, people want to talk and understand the people who hate them, and who want to destroy what we value. That is pure folly.

If, as you say, hating our enemy makes us like them, well then I would stipulate that it is important that we get them before they get us!

Free people should stop trying to coexist with killers like those in Waziristan or Narathiwat. Jihadists and other bearded sociopaths need to be culled outright. A little hate for what should be hated would be highly therapeutic for the human gene pool.

That's the best thing I've read here for ages...        

Thanks!

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(ziggystardust @ Apr. 15 2007,14:14) Sangabriel, it amazes me how you get a thrill at personal punches. If you'd stick to commentary, you're actually quite ok. I don't agree with many things you say, but I'm not here to agree with everything. The frequent personal punches degrade some the merit of many of your comments.

"Canuch-do-gooder?"

Ok. Thank-you for that totally unrelated feedback to this thread (it's Canuck by the way).

I'm more bark than bite. I actually like your writing quite a lot, although as you note, we often disagree.

Canuch started as a simple typo, but after seeing it, evoked images of a Canadian eunuch, somewhat timely, and a bit of a twist on the over used Canuck moniker.

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(kahuna @ Apr. 15 2007,15:18) As a devote hater, it's odd that you would select a screen name of a saint...Archangel Gabriel...

Oh, where faeries and trolls are, I don't go...

San Gabriel for me is chinatown in LA.

Regarding hate, I dare you to tell me that you feel only either love or indifference after reading this article from the Bangkok Post today:

Second Buddhist killed, body burned

Southern extremists shot and killed a 70 year old Buddhist man as he rode his motorcycle, then set his body on fire in the second such atrocity in less than a week.

Police said the elderly man was shot three times and killed as he was going home from the market in Narathiwat province.

The gruesome murder is certain to spark more protests against the Islamist gangs responsible for the killings - and against the government for failing to stop the killings.

On Monday, Prime Minister Surayud Chulanont is to fly to Yala province to attend the burial rites of Patcharaporn Bunmak, who was killed last week and her body burned - possibly while she was still alive.

Largely Buddhist demonstrations in southern cities have demanded action from the governme3nt against the insurgents.

[katoeylover]

Unfortunately, as tolerant as we would like to be, some races provoke this hatred and they are all tarnished with the same brush.

Those who commit murder and attrocity in the name of religion whether it be IRA terrorists or Muslim extremists have no place in modern society and should be excluded from it.

[smuttleydfs]

Maybe I'm in the minority here, wouldn't be the first time, but I think that it takes a much stronger person and more of a "spine" to "not" hate then to hate.

Hate breeds the fanatics that are flying planes into buildings, strolling into malls with explosives strapped to their body, raping and murdering children and women, and mudering and burning eldery buddhist men.

If there was more thinking on more people's parts there wouldn't be thousands of needless deaths happening in the world today.

Label me if you choose but I feel hate is a cancer that needs to be culled and not a helpful cleansing emotion.

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I think most of us 'hate' wackos, Islamic, Christian, or other.

Where we're getting crossed here is hating everyone of a particular grouping, which I think most of us don't. We hate individuals, but sometimes generalize, especially recently, due to the Islamic extremists whose global reach has made them obvious targets of racial feelings. That being said, as Smuttley noted, they are merely successors to the original terrorist models, the IRA.

On a lighter note, you perhaps don't know this, but there are several Muslim LBs in the Nana bars. You would be surprised. You perhaps have slept with some, and I can pretty much guarantee you didn't hate her or them! As they say, make love not war.

[kahuna]

(sangabriel @ Apr. 15 2007,22:19) Regarding hate, I dare you to tell me that you feel only either love or indifference after reading this article from the Bangkok Post today:

Time out...I never said I felt "love" or "indifference" instead of "hate"...you're putting words in my fingers...

I feel anger and resentment and rage and indignation and exasperation and...and...but not hate...Seems to me that one can only hate what one actually knows...

And I want folks that commit crimes against others brought to justice same as you...But I don't hate them for their actions or beliefs...It's just not in me in guess...sorry...

kahuna

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(smuttleydfs @ Apr. 15 2007,23:38) Maybe I'm in the minority here, wouldn't be the first time,   but I think that it takes a much stronger person and more of a "spine" to "not" hate then to hate.

Hate breeds the fanatics that are flying planes into buildings, strolling into malls with explosives strapped to their body, raping and murdering children and women, and mudering and burning eldery buddhist men.

If there was more thinking on more people's parts there wouldn't be thousands of needless deaths happening in the world today.

Label me if you choose but I feel hate is a cancer that needs to be culled and not a helpful cleansing emotion.




 

Practically speaking, however, your philosophy, at a minimum, is that of tolerating the fine folks with beards who want to kill you and your family.

Because if you don't hate what they stand for, you are either indifferent to it or you are favorable towards it.

If you tell me that my hatred of Jihadism is the cause of them flying planes into buildings and committing mass murder, you are clueless and have it totally backasswards.

And in reality, most of Mohammad's lemmings probably don't hate me. But they think they are justified to kill me because I am an unapologetic infidel who will not be converted. And not just me, religious murders are a daily occurrence all along Islam's bloody borders. Is it wrong to hate them for their unprovoked belligerence and bloodthirst? No. It is the first step in self-defense.