Want more or not?

[Soi8dave]

It would be interesting to see the first guy in Anneys' panties and top. As shown in the pic hes too much boy and not enough fem - but has potential - his lips are sexy.
Sai & First are certainly my thing

[Guest]

It would be interesting to see how some of the more popular girls looked "before", now that'd be fun.

[Guest]

It would be interesting to see how some of the more popular girls looked "before", now that'd be fun.

I don't want to know about it!

[daveduke007]

You think he looks any better with an afro hairdo ... red lipstick, and some red stilettos?

Another Classic from you Bam      

[Guest]

It would be interesting to see how some of the more popular girls looked "before", now that'd be fun.

I don't want to know about it!

Why not? It'd be so much fun to see the transformation.

[Soi8dave]

Like I said before the first guy definitely has potential to be a femboy- slim body, fem lips and butt.
What could be done to transform him ?
Sugestions
Black mesh stockings and 4" heels ?
Frilly thong panties ?
pierced belly ?
more make up ?
wig ?

[Looker]

Like I said before the first guy definitely has potential to be a femboy- slim body, fem lips and butt.
What could be done to transform him ?
Sugestions
Black mesh stockings and 4" heels  ?
Frilly thong panties ?
pierced belly ?
more make up ?
wig ?

And that would make it a nice cross-dresser only!
I think, and ban me if I'm wrong, that ATS was born as a lb's site and NOT a gay/cross-dresser site. I cannot deny that some of us here my swing in all possible directions, and I find nothing wrong with that, but again a lb must undergo a series of "treatments" to qualify him as such, rather than just putting on a wig and pair of stockings

[Guest]

Like I said before the first guy definitely has potential to be a femboy- slim body, fem lips and butt.
What could be done to transform him ?
Sugestions
Black mesh stockings and 4" heels  ?
Frilly thong panties ?
pierced belly ?
more make up ?
wig ?

And that would make it a nice cross-dresser only!
I think, and ban me if I'm wrong, that ATS was born as a lb's site and NOT a gay/cross-dresser site. I cannot deny that some of us here my swing in all possible directions, and I find nothing wrong with that, but again a lb must undergo a series of "treatments" to qualify him as such, rather than just putting on a wig and pair of stockings

This topic I guess has been beaten to death many times. And at the end of the day it is clear we all have our own opinions of what makes a ladyboy. I personally don't like the femboy types with no breasts etc but to each his own. I guess one could argue that yes this is suppose to be a ladyboy site and therefore such pictures should not be posted but where is the line drawn? I cannot answer that one so will leave it up to the boss JD. If I don't like something I see then I will just skip over it and move onto to the next set that I do like. Especially if those galleries are in addition to the ones are posted anyway it is a bonus for those who like them and for those who don't well you are still getting what you paid for.

And yes before anyone says anything I did a minor backflip from my previous post having given it some more thought.

[Guest]

There's lots of psychology involved in JaeDee's simple question of "show it or not". I've been reading a lot, and there is a huge amount of material on studies of gays and transsexuals, but almost ZERO on the sexuality of guys who like Ladyboys. Although there is a scientific term for this, called "gynandromorphile", or more rudely "tranny chasers", that's about as far as research seems to have gone.

Some material says we are latent homosexuals, or closet, closet homosexuals. This topic of "what is a man who only likes sex with Ladyboys" is my private research topic. Today we only have "heterosexual" and "homosexual", but I truly believe there is a third "sexuality", much as Ladboys are called a "Third Sex". "Gynandromorphile" does not seem like the right word!

For example, I'm totally in the Flynn camp, i.e., I can suck a LBs cock for 3 hours, but show me a gay man and I'm totally turned off. I know everyone is not like this. For those of us like that however, the idea of showing these gay guys on the site is a bit repulsive, and vice versa, that's why we get so divergent views on such a simple question, because it is the borderline of "gynandromorphiles" and "homosexuals".

It really is a fascinating topic.

[Looker]

It really is a fascinating topic.

Indeed it is an interesting subject
Gynandromorphous: hermaphrodite - this is what I found in internet. Ladyboys are not technically hermaphrodites but in a way they attempt a switch of sex, a bit like some animals do in some situations..some frogs, seahorses and so on..
I believe that a part of the problem, if we want to call it as such, is that with a lb there is more freedom of expression than with a GG, especially when it comes to sex.
Being both men, we find some form of cameratism that instead of ending up in drinking beers and doing bravados ends up in hot and dirty sex. In fact, we get pissed when some lb's deny us some sexual pleasure because remind us of some girls who do not want to do this or that..and we unconscioulsy think : Fuck, just like my stupid previous g/f!!
By saying that I do not intend to say that who is a loser with women ends up chasing lb's. I'm sure most of us here have no problem with women but we probably look back at when we were kids and showing our dicks or masturbating alltogether as the "little machos" we were in our youth while ridiculizing the little girls and staying somehow away from them. With a lb we probably find something of those times coming back to us...
Psychology is not an easy and direct thing. There is a lot of parallel thinking involved and nothing is straight and direct.

[Guest]

Mmmm. That's now what www.trans-academics.org says or Virginia Molenkott at www.alexanderrenault.com/mollenkott.html, both of which say it is attraction to a transgendered person, see below. Anyhow, what's clear to me is a rapidly growing number of men who become solely attracted to LBs (like myself and lots of you guys), who are not properly called heterosexual or homosexual; at least not in the traditional use of those terms, where they usually imply almost 100% of one or the other. Anyone want to work on a Ph.D.? JaeDee?

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Our sex may be male, female, intersexual, transsexual, or various other forms of transgenderism; our sexual orientation may be heterosexual, homosexual, bisexual, asexual, autosexual, gynandromorphile (intersex attraction); our gender identification and expression may be masculine, feminine, androgynous, bigender, more feminine than masculine, or more masculine than feminine, in infinite gradations.

[allstar88]

   Daz.

[Guest]

Excellent discussion! I think most of us didn't have a clue that such an attractive alternative to genetic girls was available for a long part of our lives. Once I found out what an incredible rush transgender females, and Asian ladyboys in particular, could be I never looked back. I not infrequently find GG's who physically turn me on but they usually only have to open their mouths and display their generally miserable attitudes and that fixes that in a hurry. Too much not-so-hidden agenda and arrogance about their desirability puts me off.

Just a thought but gynandromorph would technically mean a female to male change. It does sound a lot more melodic than androgynomorph though.

[Looker]

 I think most of us didn't have a clue that such an attractive alternative to genetic girls was available for a long part of our lives.  

Erm..I saw my first TG show in Rio de Janeiro in 1981. Something clicked back then..I guess

[Guest]

I think putting a penis in your mouth (or in your ass) is an homosexual act. Plain and simple. No middle ground. Hetersexuals don't do that. The last I checked there are two kinds of sex going in the world; homosex and heterosex. And it doesn't matter if the person your having sex with is in some middle ground like a ladyboy. You can still only have 2 kinds of sex in the world. Homo or hetero. A person needs to be defined by that.
So I really don't think there's a need for finding some new middle ground in the world of psychology. For example: Theft are the actions of a thief and help define a thief for what he is. The rapist is defined as such not by his imgination or desire, but his rapist actions. Do you see what I'm getting at. I can't go to jail for wanting to rob a bank. I get thrown into prison for doing the action of robbing a bank. It's not the feminine looking LB or the man in drag that is in question it is the actions that define a person. I think at best, psychology should define those who are attracted to LB's and go down on them by their actions with them. If their actions are of the homosexual variety then they are "homosexual with a female complex" or something like that. No middle ground needed.
The new labels that the psychologists come up with are just their attempt at saying "you got something called "___", it's not your fault, now get your ass in my office and give me $150 and hour."

You can suck a cock of someone wearing a dress. You can fuck a pussy of someone wearing a tuxedo. Only 2 choices in the sex world.