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well, for sure she is beautiful, ATS offered her to be our candidate in Miss Tiffany this year but she refused, said she was too shy. Tall, probably about 5'11, but very cute and nice slim body; I don't think she can get hard but I am not really sure, we only did 2 photo sessions together and no sex. Nice person, good attitude and very friendly, good english also.

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Sounds all good to me. Hey since Obsessions is closed where did all the workers go? Spread around Nana?
It re-opens in Sept. right? Are the girls going to resum working there?

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well, I am not there but the word was that the girls went to Cascades. OBS should be re-opened again soon.

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I jaidee ,it seems you are like Ziggy as you don't want to tell me where the "girl" from the first picture can be found.

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Hi Jaidee ,it seems you are like Ziggy as you don't want to tell me where the "girl" from the first picture can be found.

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Never met the lad! sorry..... I don't go to gay bars

sorry, that was Mickey's photo, I don't know where he/she works

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why is this goofy thread going to go over 4000 views?

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I dont know...but its quite enjoyable to go back and read the whole thing and see how it evolved...

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Nice avatar gr1. And Jaidee for me she looks like a starting lb,ask Snick to arrange the picture a bit and give her some long hair and let's wait a couple of months for more hormones.but I speak only for the one on the first picture.Definitly not the other ones

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Nice avatar gr1.

Thnx! Made it myself.

-Grim

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A big YES to the first one, which is also the one on the right in the second.          

No, to the rest.            The spikey hair takes them out of even the femboy category IMO.

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Hey Flynn, you're the kind of guy I want to read my book, because I totally disagree with everything you say! But I totally accept your view too, because that is exactly how I used to think, and how my brothers and sisters think, and how George Bush thinks.

I'm not the world's greatest academic or psychologist, but I do know what all the literature says, how I feel, and what a lot of guys on this site and in the bars feel. I've read about 10 books on this now, and about 100 academic articles, and have talked to some 400 LBs on the topic. Here's a quick dump of some items:

The formal definitions are:

Sex - your biological makeup
Gender - a pschological feeling of being masculine or feminine, not connected to sex
Sexuality - your preference of a partner, current common terms are homosexual, heterosexual, bisexual

For your info, LBs in Thailand are called "A second kind of woman" or "The Third Sex". There is great book called The Third Sex, by Richard Totman. The American Indians had a Third Sex called "berdache". India today has a Third Sex called "hijra". Thailand's are formally called "Kathoey" and recognized even in the Buddhist canon as a Third Sex. There is a basic acceptance that most ancient and current civilazations had or have a "sex" which is different from the standard male/female, masculine/feminine categories we use today.

As a bit of a side note, in case you didn't notice, LBs are generally taller than men and women and have unbelievable bodies that almost no male could ever have (even with hormones). About 70% of LBs are taller than the average Thai male according to Thai doctors. There are a few of us who think they are actually genetically different from a man, but there isn't much science on this yet, except for some stuff on Hirschfield's syndrome (XXY chromosone).

As for gender, there is a growing understanding, unlike George Bush, that it is not connected to biological sex, meaning you can be feminine in gender but male in sex and vice versa, and as we all know, there are lots of variants on this; sort of feminine guys, very feminine guys, femboys, LBs. Ditto for women.

Likewise sexuality is generally psychological, not physical and related to gender preference vs biological preference. There is zero doubt in my mind about how I feel. Am I homosexual? Not by a long shot in my mind, because my "preference" is NOT for men. I am not attracted to guys. I am not aroused by guys. I don't look at a guy and say "Oh, he's cute". But I totally love LBs and LB sex. So I am living proof heterosexual and homosexual just doesn't work. Likewise for many of the guys on the site.

Basically, there is a growing recognition in the academic and psychological communities, and even in some sections of society, that sex, gender and sexuality are a continuum, not binary. Don't you know guys that are a little feminine (like femboys) or girls a little masculine? So can't we say masculine and feminine is a bit narrow? ie, there is a continuum? Even sex, to my amazement. [I just read an article that said 5% of all babies in the US are born with ambigious sex, and after birth, are "forced" into one or the other by surgery. For example, if the penis is less than 1 inch, the decision is make it a girl. If there is a clitoris but with 1 testicle, and the clitoris is big, make it a guy. ]

This continuum idea started in the Kinsey Report on sexuality and pretty much every other study have shown that the binary definitions are not sufficient. For example, many guys have 1, or 5, homosexual experiences in their life. Are they homosexual? Some guys only fuck, and are not fucked. And like to fuck women. Are they momosexual or heterosexual, bisexual?

Personally, I think the truth is this continuum idea.

Remember, before modern society, ancient civilizations weren't as caught up in homing in on the binary concept; at least some if not all were open to the idea of third sexes and having sex with different genders sometimes. The binary idea is more of a recent affair.

Now, everything I said is up for debate, because that's just what guys like Bush and some religions disagree with. Even academics disagree. There's a faction that think homosexuality is a disease brought on by nature (and thus can be "cured", or it is genetic, and can also be "cured"). So, of course, I'm presenting a biased view, one I believe in of course, but a growing one.

Anyhow...great topic and thanks for your opinion.

Absolutely excellent post. You make complete sense as usual. I can't wait to read your book. You rank right there with Ozzie and Mai-Kee as my favorite posters for intelligent well thought out relaying of thoughts into printed form.

Be careful though not to even remotely insult Georgie Bush. It may offend the real patriots who read the forum.  

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Absolutely excellent post. You make complete sense as usual. I can't wait to read your book. You rank right there with Ozzie and Mai-Kee as my favorite posters for intelligent well thought out relaying of thoughts into printed form.

Lefty I appreciate that mate. Although we obviously do not contribute to this forum looking for compliments it is always nice to receive some. I hope I can shout you a beer chang a big dogs one of these days mate.

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can I hear a 5000?  this thread is headed in that direction for views .....strange

and by the way, those 3 or 4 gay boys will not make the site......

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Be careful though not to even remotely insult Georgie Bush. It may offend the real patriots who read the forum.  

Whos Georgie Bush??? O wait! I know that guy over here in california we call him George Dubbya..LOL