New Camera - Canon S90

[fleeing]

Impressive new toy Snick. I like.

(Snick @ Dec. 10 2009,02:58) Photoshop was used on many of them for color correction, they came out a bit too red in bar lighting.

Funky red lights in the bars, automatic white balance or a combination?

Looking forward to more out and about shots.

[koykaeng]

Meanwhile, here's a couple with my Canon G10, but I'm  certainly considering my options..

O.K, I confess I may have had better natural lighting.....and a flash.

Cheers
Koykaeng

[pacman]

The S90 is a very interesting camera. I love its size & low light performance.

A couple of questions to Snick - does it stay on the same ISO level if you use the flash. In other words, can you still get the same extra sensitivity & use the flash as a fill-in? Or does activating the flash automatically switch it to a regular ISO level & the picture will be reliant completely on the artificial light?

I haven't seen reference to this anywhere & even though I expect the answer is obvious, I want to ask anyway.

I wonder if you can post a couple of pictures taken one evening of the same subject, one with flash & one without. It would be very informative.

Does the camera record the ISO & camera settings for each photo? I wonder what ISO the average street light is allowing? And what shutter speed is most common?

Or do you set the ISO to maximum? (What is it? 6400?)

If Aperture Priority is selected & assuming the lens is opened fully to f2, what shutter speeds are common in these settings? I notice a lack of sharpness in some pics but that could be caused by a moving subject, a moving camera or too slow a speed.

Please accept my thanks in advance for any answers you can supply.

[deepthroat]

Since we're on the subject anyway, how many tweeters and radiants does that baby reviperate?

Also, does it meet the A5942 RoHas specs for overall tuminisity, or does it require a Huberlion Coil in order to make minimum spiroculation?

Inquiring minds want to know. I won't ask about retro encabulation - I don't want to confuse the laypersons.

[ernesto]

Good camera - nice pics.I´ll buy a more powerful flashlight for my Olympus 520 in Pathip Plaza on Saturday 19th.I want to catch up with the quality of your photos

Ernsto

[pacman]

Ho ho ho, very droll there Deepthroat...

I didn't think I was being too technical, I struggle to understand the terminology myself.

I know Snick is an afficionado about these things & if I am curious, maybe others are too.

Or anyone is welcome to chime in with their opinion.

Here's another question - is the S90 a better pocket camera than the Panasonic DMC-GF1?

I know it costs much more but it seems to be the other pocket device that is getting the attention at the moment.

[Guest]

keep clicking.....

[Snick]

The S90 has a special 'candle light' mode where it uses every trick in the book to get you a good pic in low light. The resolution drops to 2.5MP (vs 10MP), the ISO is set automatically from 320 to 12800, and shutter speed can go as slow as 1/20. The camera also applies some very aggressive on camera noise reduction. I'm guessing the 'Red Shift' happens because red light is more 'energetic' (its a physics thing) I've seen this with other camera's as well.
I use photoshop to compensate for the red shift, noise reduction filters in Photoshop showed NO improvement over what the camera had done internally.

Burst mode in candlelight mode is insanely fast and never stops, I shot 100+ of the girls on the Bull and just picked out the best.

You can't use the flash in candlelight mode.

EXIF data is recorded including ISO,shutter speed,F-Stop,datetime, and blood alcohol level.

in Normal modes you can use the flash and set the ISO to 3200 (from 80).

The camera has image stabilization, in normal modes I have shot as low as 1/20 if I was leaning against a wall or had something to put the camera on.

No one uses Huberlion Coils anymore that's like vacuum tubes, A Heisenberg Compensator is used for quantum flux stabilization, however it maybe misaligned since the red shift could be a result of higher tachyon quanta reaching the sensor.  And I get a lot of Tweets and Oooohs from it.

The S90 is a very interesting camera. I love its size & low light performance.

A couple of questions to Snick - does it stay on the same ISO level if you use the flash. In other words, can you still get the same extra sensitivity & use the flash as a fill-in? Or does activating the flash automatically switch it to a regular ISO level & the picture will be reliant completely on the artificial light?

I haven't seen reference to this anywhere & even though I expect the answer is obvious, I want to ask anyway.

I wonder if you can post a couple of pictures taken one evening of the same subject, one with flash & one without. It would be very informative.

Does the camera record the ISO & camera settings for each photo? I wonder what ISO the average street light is allowing? And what shutter speed is most common?

Or do you set the ISO to maximum? (What is it? 6400?)

If Aperture Priority is selected & assuming the lens is opened fully to f2, what shutter speeds are common in these settings? I notice a lack of sharpness in some pics but that could be caused by a moving subject, a moving camera or too slow a speed.

Please accept my thanks in advance for any answers you can supply.      

[Snick]

As an example the first pic was F2, 1/25, ISO 3200. All set automatically.

[pacman]

Thank you Snick, all very interesting.

I hope you post more pics over a variety of conditions. I would like to see just how good this thing can perform.

I know you can set it to either aperature or shutter priority & I wonder if a more reliable result can be gained from that over & above setting it to Automatic.

At 1/20 second, the camera needs to be perfectly still to salvage a sharp pic but the first photo looks good & is better than anything I can do in such low light.

12800 ISO must only get selected in almost black conditions. I guess the noise level would be awful.

3200 with the flash on sounds great & I look forward to seeing how they turn out. I just feel that sounds like a nice compromise, making the best use of the available light with the flash to fill in the detail. Am I wrong?

[Snick]

Candlelight mode is 'special' the resolution goes down to 2.5MP and everything is automatic, there is no way to set Shutter Speed, FStop or ISO in candlelight mode

[pacman]

Then candlelight mode it is then..... oooh, how romantic...      

Just for the comparison I would still like to see some shots taken with flash at 3200 ISO or at 1600 or 800...      

I assume you can set the ISO independently. For a little camera, this thing has a lot of science built into it.

[Snick]

(pacman @ Dec. 10 2009,21:20) Just for the comparison I would still like to see some shots taken with flash at 3200 ISO or at 1600 or 800...      

You paying my Bar Tab ?

Last nights research wasn't cheap

[Ivor Biggun]

Ahhhhhhhhh the old 'I'm just breaking in my new camera' trick- worked a treat

[deepthroat]

By the way, I LOVED LOVED LOVED the pics. The technical discussion was interesting as the results sure make it look like a camera worth investigating.

THanks again!