What do ladyboys say about YOU...

[katoeylover]

Mine says "Thanks"

[post-op lover]

Umm, when was the last time you chatted to your friends about the ATM you went to yesterday?

Anyway, from personal experience I can tell you that I've observed LBs telling each other to not waste their time with me, that I'm only interested in post-ops. Can you believe the things they say? Such rudeness! Sure, they didn't speak to each other in English, but their comments were short and the listener would make an expression and then say that she still has a dick, and wander off. Shit. Then again, I met a postie or two from this kind of grapevine.

Who knows what they say to each other. I think they only talk when some guy is behaving especially stupidly. (Which is not the case when you're expressing an interest in post-ops, just in case Smuttley or Randyman makes that error. )

POL

[janabiyah]

Private Dancer was a huge hit for Tina Turner, she kept her mind on the money and her eyes on the wall.

Sex providers need to keep themselves sane by detaching themselves from the client and they all have their ways of achieving this.

Blabbing to the other gurls about what a fuckup this guy is helps them detach, so dont feel bad if you hear this.

Fortunately Thai GGs and LBs provide the best service at the best prices and that is what it's about.

Enjoy it, it's wonderful

[allstar88]

(stogie bear @ Sep. 30 2007,21:48)      

I'm speechless... Spot on post and the best thing I've read on here for a long time...  

when`s it out in paperback?

[allstar88]

(daveduke007 @ Oct. 02 2007,09:01)  What was that Dieter  

remember stanley unwin dave?

[allstar88]

(daveduke007 @ Sep. 30 2007,22:40)  Just realised    sorry peep's just having a "rant"

dont let the c**nts get to you dave  its your life  

[daveduke007]

(allstar88 @ Oct. 03 2007,21:26)

(daveduke007 @ Oct. 02 2007,09:01)  What was that Dieter  

remember stanley unwin dave?

[kathylc]

I have heard stories from my oldest brother when he was in the military and serving in Vietnam (early 70's). He said he and his friends would hit a whore house and get laid and the girls there wuld lay on their backs working crossword puzzles or eating an apple while getting banged or there would be a couple of them holding a conversation amongst themselves while sme GI was riding them. My brother spoke Vietnamese fluently, so he understood what they were saying, and most times even with a lot of them yakking on it was not about the patron but just things in general......Maybe those ladyboys are talking about race cars or going fishing after they get off work !

[holdfast]

my 2 cents
not that ive followed this post (mayb i should read it afta)
(im barely literate)
but i couldnt resist

not that i want to think about it
but i imagine they talk the way they act
the lb talk about the farangs stupidity or fun
just the way the farang talk about lb stupidity or fun
(as percieved warranted)

the difference with the lb i think is
the average lb has nothing better to do than talk shit about other people more than the average punter
(and their culture somewhat lends to it more too)

something that did shock me
was contacting Icy for the first time
after only seeing her in cascades but not even talking let alone bar fining her more than a year prior
and she could actually tell me the names of the girls i had barfined back then that trip
wow (was i the sucker of the year for cascades that year or something???)

[Guest]

First of all cudos to Doug. Most of my long experience in Thailand was GG oriented including a 17 year long marriage and the past 5 years swimming in ladyboy seas. Anything involving the bar scene and short times is a well covered topic and not much new information needs to be dredged up so I will skip that and concentrate on the longer "friendships" I understand about 60-70% of the Thai I hear and have a fairly good insight into longer term relationships with Thai and PI ladyboys. One cannot use "all" when confronting this subject, as ladyboys like most humans are essentially individuals. There is truth in comment that once you learn Thai you realize that most of the people have little to say that is profound or informed. Ladyboys are extremely self-centered for they are outsiders in society, even gay society. Their survival mechanism in internalized, and if they are on the game they are busy at developing their beauty in order to attract clients. At center there is insecurity because the beauty time-clock is ticking rapidly. Obsessions about a boob job, nose job, butt job are strong impulses as is the long shot goal of landing a long term mate(cynically seen as breadwinning security blanket) What is lost is much time for thinking about the other person for the world revolves around the ME. A ladyboy may call you 10-30 times a day not because she loves you but because she is usually afraid of losing you, her security. Ladyboys usually have ladyboy friends, they talk, eat, and shop together. They are also jealous of each other. This is a push and pull situation. Ladyboys outside the game seem to do much better and are more secure once they find a skill or business at which they flourish. It is not an easy life for most ladyboys given the environment of society. The first thing a ladyboy will brag about is having a sponsor so they usually don't dish out negativity about a sponsor type farang. In the bars it is another thing where it is more like working in a car wash--superficiality and hopefully professional service--not much bonding going on there, so that can rat off on their clients, the deadbeats, the low tippers etc.

[buttafly]

(bohemia @ Nov. 01 2007,03:54)  The first thing a ladyboy will brag about is having a sponsor

sponsor = boyfriend!

so funny ..... and talk about a low blow, if anyone ever called me a sponsor I'd take it as offensive, but there are clowns all over this world who think they have a ladyboy 'girlfriend' and she's telling friends he's a 'sponsor' LOL.... the boyfriend role is saved for the Thai's and what a plumb role that is by the way, they don't even have to spend any money, sponsor-man is doing it already!

The only thing I'd ever sponsor is the 1 hour she is making me hard enough to blow a wad

[maycduk]

(bohemia @ Nov. 01 2007,03:54)  One cannot use "all" when confronting this subject, as ladyboys like most humans are essentially individuals.  There is truth in comment that once you learn Thai you realize that most of the people have little to say that is profound or informed.  Ladyboys are extremely self-centered for they are outsiders in society, even gay society.  Their survival mechanism in internalized, and if they are on the game they are busy at developing their beauty in order to attract clients.  At center there is insecurity because the beauty time-clock is ticking rapidly.  Obsessions about a boob job, nose job, butt job are strong impulses as is the long shot goal of landing a long term mate(cynically seen as breadwinning security blanket)  What is lost is much time for thinking about the other person for the world revolves around the ME.  A ladyboy may call you 10-30 times a day not because she loves you but because she is usually afraid of losing you, her security.  Ladyboys usually have ladyboy friends, they talk, eat, and shop together.  They are also jealous of each other.  This is a push and pull situation.  Ladyboys outside the game seem to do much better and are more secure once they find a skill or business at which they flourish.  It is not an easy life for most ladyboys given the environment of society.  The first thing a ladyboy will brag about is having a sponsor so they usually don't dish out negativity about a sponsor type farang.  In the bars it is another thing where it is more like working in a car wash--superficiality and hopefully professional service--not much bonding going on there, so that can rat off on their clients, the deadbeats, the low tippers etc.  

well said, bohemia. i couldn't agree more.

[Looker]

(bohemia @ Nov. 01 2007,03:54) In the bars it is another thing where it is more like working in a car wash--superficiality and hopefully professional service--not much bonding going on there, so that can rat off on their clients, the deadbeats, the low tippers etc.  

Exactly!
Is everybody around a PhD? And I'm not talking about Asia, were we (foreigners) are not always nicely assuming that most of the locals are basically comparable to cavemen elevated to the use of mobile phones and computers, but still stuck in the eat- fuck-sleep life mode.
So, is this only an Asian syndrome?
I can tell you having seen very "basic" human beings allover the word and don't think what they were/are thinking about others would be much on philosophical and globally open minded terms
And even some of the most elevated beings can at time downgrade themselves to "darker" level of existance and behavior.
Or else, would a working LB or GG in any other country be better than the Thai counterpart?

[donnnnnny]

(Snick @ Sep. 28 2007,13:20)

(stogie bear @ Sep. 28 2007,12:37) By the way... what IS the collective noun for ladyboys? Did we settle on 'a clutch'  

http://forum.asiantsgirls.com/cgi-bin....nd+noun

looks like we settled for 'Gobble', although I still think 'A Murder' is a good choice.

ya a murder, in olde england it was a murder of crows, but a murder of katouys has a certain feel about it
To answer stogies original question. better off not knowing. even if you were a fluent thai speaker, you would have trouble following what they say, as they speak with alot of slang and lao.
personally i would say, they bicker about what a soft touch one guy is compared to another, depending on how easy it is to get stang out of them
cheers donnnnny

[donnnnnny]

(doug @ Sep. 30 2007,21:16) I speak Thai very well, so I understand 80% to 90% of what's being said about me.

Thing is, most of the time, I just don't bother to listen.

One of the reasons I find the bar scene so boring is that many of the girls flitting about are cookie-cutter-copies of each other with the same petty concerns, trivial self-inflicted "problems", mundane interests, and inane "opinions" based entirely on superstitions and stereotypes.

bla-blah-bla-blah-"you butterfly"-bla-blah-blaah-"all farang like black girls"-blah-blah-zzzzzzz...

* yawn *

There are times when I just want to shout "Yah! Guess what?  I'm NOT Prince-fucking-Charming!  No shit!  You met me in a fucking GO-GO BAR, remember!?!?"

But really, what's the point.

Most Thai kids entering uni these days have what would pass for a 9th grade level education back home, and since they still live with mommy and daddy (and they've had a nanny wipe their ass every day since they were a babe), they've got a maturity level of the average 5th grader back home.  And that's the top tier group.

Many ladyboys (like many poor Thais) don't finish high school (they're lucky to finish 8th grade, and the average 4th grader back home would be the top of the class in a Thai 8th grade classroom).

Anyone who's ever given an extra baht to a cashier at 7-11 to make even change AFTER she's rung up the sale (watch her brain literally implode as she tries to add 259+1 and then subtract that from 300 in her head) , knows exactly what I'm talking about.

So quite frankly, why should I give two shits what they think??  

Give me someone of average intelligence, with a decent awareness of the world around them, some common sense, and a valid, original thought or two and I might put some value on what they say about me.

But if someone is just going to make a bunch of stupid assumptions about me based on out-dated stereotypes and gossip, then really, why should I bother to listen or respond to that crap.  If the sex is good, then I'll spend some time with her, but have a conversation?  Fuck no, I'd rather keep my sanity, please.

Not to sound too harsh, but there are times when it's hard to look at the bargirls as "people".  I mean with non-p4p girls it's a whole different crate of pineapples, but some of these go-go girls,...... yeeeeesh!  Could they get any dumber, lazier or less motivated?  If you want a chuckle, ask one of them what her "goals" are in life.

Pretty much none of the girls in the bar scene know I speak Thai.  I've never made a show of it, and not many girls have managed to bring up a topic that I'd actually want to talk about, so I get by on English mostly and throw in a few words of Thai here and there just to keep things rolling.

This usually means that when they're hanging out with their friends, they chatter on about their lives as if I'm not even there.  They assume I can't understand them so they don't guard their words at all.  That's the reason that I said most guys who "fall in love" with ladyboys from the bars are "naive idiots".  If they only knew what was really going on, they'd be a little bit more cynical about any protestations of love from a bargirl/ladyboy.

Like someone else said, you're probably just better off not knowing.  Why spoil your fun with reality?

I've got a bunch of Thai ladyboy "friends", but all we do when we get together is fuck or eat.  That's pretty much it.  I'm not stupid enough to get them to con me into shopping or going to the discos (both of those equal "hey Mr. Wallet, pay for me and all of my friends"), which would be the only other activities they'd be interested in doing.

Now, on the other hand, I've got a couple of Filippina ladyboy friends and holy shit is it a world of difference.  We have actual conversations about movies, books, politics, life, goals, dreams, etc...  If they have an opinion, you bet I listen to it, because they've actually THOUGHT about their opinion (rather than just parroted it).

And, of course, I'm generalizing so there are plenty of exceptions to what I'm saying.  I'm sure a few guys who are dating those exceptions are going to get pissed at me, but really guys, you're the lucky few.  And you know damn well that you managed to find a diamond in a shit pit.  The rest of us poor sods have to muck about with vacant, airheaded girls whose main goals in life are: 1) to Eat, 2) to Gossip, 3) to Shop, 4) to Eat, 5) to Sleep, 6) to Create Chaos for the sake of it, 7) to Eat, 8) to Pose in front of a Mirror, 9) to Get High/Drunk, and 10) to Find some clueless fuckwit to pay for it all.

Like I said, you're just better off not knowing.

great post. as you say the average thai uni graduate can bearly tie there shoe laces.
who cares what they say , and do they actually think>???
fuck i cant spelllllllllllllllllllll