Relationships with ladyboys...

[statuesque]

 They all must be lined up for you down to the next block!!  

Nothing for me here though. My boy is in London *sniffs*


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[doug]

I think you guys all know what I'd say on this topic:

"No fucking way."

Which is half-true. I'd certainly get involved in a "relationship" with a ladyboy bargirl as long as it was entirely on MY TERMS. Which, in other words, isn't really a relationship but more of a "mutually convenient/beneficial arrangment".

But the minute it stops being MUTUALLY convenient/beneficial, I want the option to get the fuck out of Dodge, which is why I believe protecting privacy is so important. If you don't, then you'll get what you deserve (hounding SMS's at all hours, late-night visits, vandalism, screaming tirades in front of the neighbors, 'fatal attraction'-style stalking, etc...).

Now, a non-bargirl ladyboy would be a different story entirely, except, as I've said before many of them are dealing with some serious self-esteem/personality issues and I'm not interested in hitching my heart up to such a volite ride. Call me an old man, but I'd rather have a bit of stability and reliability when it comes to a long term relationship, and those two words are not the first ones to come to my mind when I think of ladyboys.

Besides, my girlfriend has got the "long-term relationship" bit locked up, and when it comes to getting visas, getting married, having kids, buying a house, etc... all that stuff is just a lot less complex in a male/female relationship. Sad, but true.

[donnnnnny]

jesus when will the wanking ever end

[Hollywood]

Dated one for 6 years here in the states. We had good and bad times. No regrets. Besides the sex, was pretty much the same as dating a GG. Although, due to her culture, money was a VERY important issue. That is pretty much what drove us apart.

I did buy her implants and supported her through school. She did pull her weight with the bills, so I don't feel like a sucker.

We'll see how the next one goes...

[xander]

My answer is not on there. She's working in a bar and we're still together. But she works at a hostess bar in Japan. Not quite the same I guess. If she was a working girl and I couldn't afford to take care of her, I wouldn't be opposed to her making a living though. I got a pretty open-minded view.

I've dated strippers and even a failed pornstar once (yeah, how do you FAIL at porn???). I can look past most things kinda easily...not sure yet if it's good or bad. But I've taken my lumps along the way.

She's filipino btw..

[ripcurl]

i have been with only 2 ladyboys in my life.......

neither of them were in the p4p business

1 of them i was with on again off again........she actually fell in love with me.........

the other we just had 1 hot night of passion

so no i havent fallen inlove

but who knows 1 day........i guess

[indianajones]

If your a 50 off year old bloke who comes to Thailand for 2 weeks in the year, please explain to me how and why a stunning 21 year old transexual prostitute is going to be in any sort of real relationship with you?

Ive lost count of the times ive cried with laughter with my lb friends about some overweight old tourist who truly believes by sending 45,000 baht every month he is in a real relationship.

Dont know if you know this fella's, but they almost all have a real Thai boyfriend and as i said before, when the show's over, the show's over


its a business, they are working, deal with it


Oh, i forgot, you're different!!!!!!!

[daveduke007]

And he said unto them, Why are ye so fearful? how is it that ye have no faith?

[indianajones]

I've been here years, ive seen, certainly not all, but ive seen enough and sent enough sms and emails for lb's (as have most expats i would say) to know the score.

Never seen an honest "relationship" in 5 years.

Ive lived with working girls in Patpong, easy to have a nice fling if your young, good looking, dont smell like a tramp etc for a few months.

But come on, as much as Bkk is fantasy island, old, fat men are not what beautiful 21 year olds want.

U cant buy people's hearts


Have fun, tho. Ill be in KC3 later!

[indianajones]

Having said that, if someone does find their true love in a bar and it all works out for you, then i could not be happier for you




sanuk

[olekunde]

(jtatis @ Feb. 04 2008,23:08) Some of the challenges is that some men are attracted to TS because they are TS and not because of who the other person is. They are in essence TS obsessed. Once the 'magic' of being with this TS wears off, the guy strays.

yes, definately. i have no interest in a ltr with a lb, only sex, but still i have come to this point. noticed it on my last trip. no sensational feel or excitement when the lb pulled out her cock. more like "ok, get it hard, stick it down my troath, ram it up my arse and cum over my face. c'mon get on with it .."

[Stewart]

(daveduke007 @ Mar. 01 2008,19:17) And he said unto them, Why are ye so fearful? how is it that ye have no faith?

[Guest]

(kahuna @ Jul. 29 2007,07:17) Some of them want to play you, but perhaps they just haven't had enough music lessons yet or perhaps the instrument they are trying to play is just a bit out of tune...

My cute little avatar...actually she is cute but not so little...has worked in the bar scene a little over one month...she came form the beauty products industry...which is a nice way of saying she was a sales person at Watson's...So now she is earning the big bht...I saw her first month's pay from the bar it was $7,000 bht...plus whatever her customers are paying her...a nice raise over the 4k bht she was making at Watsons...

I do like her and I have been generous with her...No I didn't buy her phones or TV's or gold...but I kept her for a few days running the first time, paid her nicely and sent her on her way...a week or so later I was feeling lonely and called her and she came back and spent a few days for which she was again compensated nicely...but not extravagantly...and again I said goodbye...On my last evening in BKK...I actually had another girl in mind to spend the evening with, but she called and I said maybe I'd come to her bar and she said she was not working so I said ok come on over...which she did...

After dinner we end up in Guess for a late night drink and she is chatting with the girls and they want to go dancing...the Isaan shit...so I said go...I have to get up early to catch my flight home see ya when I see ya...and I pay the bill and leave...about 30 minutes later she shows up at my hotel...cheeky little thing...I could have been with another girl by then..actually I should have been with another girl by then...But....

In any event, I get up early, pack for my trip home and she says she wants to go to the airport with me...I know that means extra bht for her, but I don't have much Thai cash left so I say OK...All goes well at the airport...I check in...we chat a bit...I put her in a taxi with the extra bht and I get the kisses and the big smiles...and I head for the bar...The sms comes right away...I ignore it...20 hours or so later when I get home...I reply...big mistake guys...she now has my USA cell number... ....

Sunday as I recall I get the usual message...HRU I miss U I wait u when u come back to me...

Again I am reluctant to reply but eventually do... and then she sends pretty much the same message for 2 or 3 days...usually at her time which is the middle of the fucking night for me..so every time it wakes me and now I am getting a bit agitated...but she can't seem to grasp the time difference so it continues...

So about Thursday I get the convoluted message that has something to do with Mother and Mother's day on August 15 and some other shit that I can't understand...
and I tell her so...it is shorty followed by a message with her real name and all her banking information...

Well I am an old dumb Yank but it dosen't take me long to figure out that she is asking for money...and I can even figure out that it has something to do with Mother and Mother's day and something else that I don't understand but don't give a shit...

Now I don't know whether just to ignore or delete her entirely from my phone...but while I'm pondering that question, I continue to get the sms...where RU why u no talk me...etc., etc...

Finally this morning I give in and reply...and very nicely I might add...telling her that I do enjoy spending time with her but I will not send her any money for any reason whatsoever...and I will see her when I return to Thai...In short, I gave her the western version of "Up to You."

So a short while ago I do get the reply telling me how much she loves me and how I am number 1 in her heart and how much she misses me and indirectly, when will I send her some money...

I am now in the ignore mode...

She will soon move on to the next guy/victim and I won't hear from her again until I am near to return to LOS in September...

So guys the moral of my story is...there is no moral to my story...And likely most everyone who has visited Thai and spent time with these beauties can tell us the same story...

But I have learned that the real trick is, if you can just manage to stay a little out of tune, when they try and play you, the music won't sound so pleasing to their ears...

Cheers,

Kahuna

Hello

100% true.
For all who fools have not learned yet. First do not forget the lb's working in p4p scene do this as a profession. Simply because they have to survive and have to support a family too ( in many cases not to be compared with the situation in the western society) Do not judge them on this it is simply unfair to do. Do not pity yourself if you had a relationship with an lb out of the p4p scene. Do not become angry or bitter against them. Why because you forget lesson number one that you were the fool and not the lb who was doing her job and expected to be paid for that. If you still live in a dreamworld after reading this and not understand it please go ahead and they let you believe in a relationship. But you never find out what they are really thinking or doing . And don't even think of trying to become an expert. You only end up making a fool out of yourself.
If you want to become fool number 1 in this so called relationship please do the following:
_ give them all your phone numbers and your real name etc
_ go for all the stories they tell you about leaving the business / having no thai boyfriend and getting a proper education
- send at least 20000-40000 bath a month / 50000 is even better
- do not be alarmed when she leaves out the phone for days and only sends an sms when she needs some money
- go visit her family and give her family the jackpot that day
- pay for absolutely everything during your thailand stay
- don't ever check ( it will only cause alarming signs that can be a danger for your relationship)
- let yourself being overruled all the time by her.
- get her as many hormones as possible/ your love life goes to a zero level
- never use your own common sense / simply ignore it
- only speak english and never another foreign language
- don't learn basic thai but instead believe that your relationship is build on trust and freedom / so why take the time to learn thai.

If you follow this path with a lb from the p4p scene you end up in the fools hall of fame with a gold medal . And of course then you can write twenty pages on every forum that it went wrong and how bad she treated you. Don't . Why? because you can only blame yourself then or do you really believe like other members quoted so many times before me that a 20 year old good looking lb out of the p4p scene really likes a sweaty old farth of 65 or even considers the word love or relationship with him.

On the other hand out of the p4p scene I'm convinced although I admit it is difficult for both that a relationship can work between an lb and a man in thailand. But it is not an easy task to acomplish. You really have to search.Also be prepared to get an open mind on how your partner thinks and what her tradition or background is. The same goes for her too. She must be prepared to do the same.Also don't be afraid to put some limits on what you accept.
Many relationships outside the p4p scene fail because of this.
Even then it will be a long and winding road.

For all soldiers of love ( including old Ben) who visit thailand please skip the word relationship when you are there. Just have fun as much as you can take but keep a distance and treat every person you have fun with with respect.
And in the event that the love bug hits you just let it happen and don't be too serious about it in the first place.

Take care

Ben