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    so i'm sitting in obsession near the end of a long evening's prowl when the current lovely with her hand on my dick asks me to barfine her. she tells me it's only 300 baht (rather than the usual 600 baht) because it's half past midnight and they're closing in an hour - and she just doesn't want to wait. i.e., she doesn't want to lose me to another beauty i am *bound* to see if i step out to the nana parade after closing to "wait" for her.
    i decline.
    and sure enough, i end up with a lovely freelancer off the boulevard.

    the next night i'm sitting in cascade, finally beside the lovely (and unknown) #55 and it's again half past midnight and she asks me to barfine her and this time i figure what the hell. i want this one for sure tonight. i've had my eye on her since i saw her a week earlier, so i say okay. i hold up three fingers and say 'but it's three hundred' right? she smiles and scampers off to change.
    one of the waiters comes by to settle the bill.
    he asks me 'barfine?'
    i say 'yes' and again i *hold up three fingers* and say '300 baht, yes?' he nods with glazed eyes. i give a big note to cover the barfine and a few drinks and off he goes.
    he returns two minutes later and i notice a clear lack of change.
    i ask him, where's the rest of my money and he says 'barfine, yes?'
    i say 'yes, but it's three hundred'. and *again* i hold up 3 fingers. he shrugs. i ask for the mamasan.
    another guy comes over, this one in a suit, and i explain i'm barfining one of his girls, but as he's about to close i counted on the discount his sister bar had offered me just the previous night and had even confirmed it (holding up 3 fingers) with the girl and the waiter.
    he said barfine *always* 600 baht.
    he said girl already changed, i can not undo the barfine.
    i said i would not argue with him, but i had made it clear i expected the 300 baht rate for so late a barfine and if he insisted on the 600, i would not be returning to his bar.
    he said he didn't care.
    he said 'you can go to other bar'.
    that was clear enough.
    i smiled, thanked him politely, took the girl and left.

    i have not returned to cascades since -- but then i was only in bangkok another four nights and obsession and guess and freelancers and friends kept me more than busy enough. had i been staying longer (and what i'll do upon my return), i'm not sure...

    anyone else come upon this discount? this 'deception'?
    or, as one regular here said to me:
    "do you know what a girl thinks when you pay her barfine after midnight?"
    "how generous you are and how happy she is?" i replied with a smile.
    "no. she thinks how stupid you are." he said definitively.

    i'm thinking he's right.
    if you find 'the girl of your dreams' (or at least that night's dreams) and it's only 9 or 10 pm, then sure, pay, take her, guarantee yourself what you want - hell it's only $15usd! but...if they're about to close and she's desperate to be taken, the odds are *huge* she'll be even more desperate in another hour...and if she's not, an equal beauty on the street will be....
    so, for me, no barfining after midnight...

    just my 2¢.


  • #2
    A few thoughts......................

    If it were right before closing I might try to avoid the barfine in nana Bars but I wouldn't feel right doing it at Guess Bar or any bar where I'm treated as a friend by the owners.

    A late night discount is not standard by any means and trying to negotiate a special deal they've never heard of in English is probably going to be misunderstood or cause hard feelings.

    And wasn't the girl who offered the discount from Obsessions but the misunderstanding in Cascades?

    However, the idea of a half price barfine in the final hour makes sense.   Some guys might pay it rather than leave for a frelancer.  And at 11PM  aguy might stay around drinking till the midnight hour.

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    • #3
      A discount of the bar fine closer to the end of the evening makes no sense whatsoever. What is to stop the girl bar fining her self and fucking off early to meet her chums? The shitpits would be deserted an hour before they close!

      As for the Obsessions girl saying the bar fine is 'half price!' That's a laugh. What she means is - She'll cough up the balance just so she can leave with you and you won't go looking for a free-lancer.

      he said barfine *always* 600 baht
      'He' is correct. The bar fine is always 600 Baht. Why did you negotiate with the mamasan? A private arrangement with the girl is the only way to pay less or no bar fine.
      or, as one regular here said to me: "she thinks how stupid you are." he said definitively.
      This 'regular' doesn't know what he's talking about. The bar fine is 600 Baht (or 1,000 Baht on special nights) and there is no discount or freebies handed out.

      You have not been deceived, my friend. By the way - I wouldn't know what holding up 3 fingers was supposed to imply if I didn't speak your language. How you can corrolate holding up 3 fingers with getting a discount on the bar fine God himself knows! The mamasan might have thought it was a tip for him!

      You live and learn!

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      • #4
        (stogie bear @ Jan. 24 2007,14:36) She'll cough up the balance just so she can leave with you and you won't go looking for a free-lancer.
        That's what I thought.
        I don't get it, is this a magic show?

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        • #5
          (stogie bear @ Jan. 23 2007,21:36) As for the Obsessions girl saying the bar fine is 'half price!' That's a laugh. What she means is - She'll cough up the balance just so she can leave with you and you won't go looking for a free-lancer.

          he said barfine *always* 600 baht
          'He' is correct. The bar fine is always 600 Baht. Why did you negotiate with the mamasan? A private arrangement with the girl is the only way to pay less or no bar fine.

          isn't it odd how *obvious* some things are waaaay after the fact!
          at the time it totally did not occur to me that she was offering to split the barfine with me.
          i guess that's what a night of imbibing formaldehyde will do to you!


          if on my 50th trip to nana i'm *still* so easily confused i can only imagine the dizziness of the newbie when a bikini'd beauty grabs his crotch and begs for a barfine, *whatever* the time might be.

          methinks i must promptly return for lesson #51!!

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          • #6
            methinks i must promptly return for lesson #51!!
            It's an ongoing struggle. We all feel your pain!

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            • #7
              (thaibound @ Jan. 24 2007,09:37) i hold up three fingers and say 'but it's three hundred' right?

              anyone else come upon this discount? this 'deception'?
              In my opinion the OP initiated the situation by trying to negotiate a reduced bar-fine with employees who did not understand what he was proposing. All they heard was "bar-fine".

              (I'm surprised he didn't end up with three girls, or #3. )

              At most of the bars the bar-fine remains constant until closing with the one exception; on special nights, say New Year's Eve, when the bar-fine is 1,000, that figure does get reduced during the evening, down to the standard figure (600).

              The manager was quite right in his position, IMO. Somebody (an employee) would have had to pay the 300 baht at the end of the day/night/month. His company makes money off you if you go to Obsessions, or any of the other dozen Go-Gos in NEP, and he's heard the "I'll never return to this bar again." phrase hundreds of times.

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