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[BAM]

(kempthorn @ Sep. 17 2006,18:02) for stogie or bam:  could you tell me how to e-mail this.
i have a friend who i am concerned could get
ensnarled in this type situation.  he was here early
in the year and is returning next month.  you know
the story. 'shes a good girl and really likes me and her family needs help'.  i have talked to him.  this experience might awaken him.  i have windows xphome with
a dail up modem in my condo.  how can i send this?  
thanks

http://www.dwightblackburn.com/copy.htm

This tells you how to Copy & Paste

[Guest]

Please do not take this the wrong way kempthorn but you know how to post on a forum and follow links but not how to copy and paste?

[PigDogg]

If you're having trouble highlighting the text, then click the Quote button on your original post and it should be easier to copy (ctrl-c) from that screen.

[kahuna]

This is all very interesting...I am planning on coming over in a couple months for an extended stay...But I would suspect if implemented, there will be ways around the new regulations...

My question: it was suggested on several visa sites that airlines either require that you purchase a ticket to return within the 30 day period or provide a Thai Visa for an extended stay...Does anyone have any experience with the airlines and which one (s) might allow me to travel to Thai on a one-way ticket? Or do you pruchase a return ticket and just keep changing the flight?

[Guest]

I can€™t even prove I did have 2 million in the account at one time.

..geez, this guy was stupid or very ignorant, how in the hell do you deposit 2 mill & not have any proof that you did??  ..another example of the old adage "a fool & his money are soon parted!"  

..and.. I'm still waiting for my passport but wasn't aware there was a visa exemption for some countries if you stay only 30 days or less; if that's true I was planning on a 2 or 3 month stay since I am semi-retired now, would it be easier to get the extension there or apply here in the States for the 90 day visa?

[stogie bear]

(allstar88 @ Sep. 17 2006,17:03) all the thai news papers say it is true and will happen in a couple of months(which in thai means 2 years) they say you can stay but with a work visa and pay tax all you ex-pats in los will have to look into this instead of hiding your heads in the sand and saying it will not happen .get over it ,life changes,all good things come to an end,paying tax is a fact of life

I assume you were wasted halfway to hell when you wrote that shit!

[stogie bear]

Fellas... Farangs (People like you and me) can't buy houses or own property or own a business unless (blah de blah de blah) or... on and on the list goes...

REALITY CHECK! all this shit goes on all the time and there are loopholes and ways around things.

For all you people that want to avoid the 'scum' that live in Thailand then I suggest you keep away the bars they drink in because they ain't ever going anywhere!

It's a basic law of nature and Thailand is not exempt... if you chase someone he will run and hide! Do you really think that enforcing a relatively minor visa/entry regulation is gonna suddenly clean up the streets and make your life better for you when you come here?

The more I read those frustrated buffoons posting on ThaiVisa the more I think that all of those wannabees and LOS Blues sufferes are actually jealous of those of us that live here and would do anything to get us all out and limited to two weeks a year each!

Now, I KNOW that we are above thinking like that on this forum, right chaps?

[dummy_plug]

(kahuna @ Sep. 17 2006,21:35) This is all very interesting...I am planning on coming over in a couple months for an extended stay...But I would suspect if implemented, there will be ways around the new regulations...

My question:  it was suggested on several visa sites that airlines either require that you purchase a ticket to return within the 30 day period or provide a Thai Visa for an extended stay...Does anyone have any experience with the airlines and which one (s) might allow me to travel to Thai on a one-way ticket?  Or do you pruchase a return ticket and just keep changing the flight?

As far as I've read, you can re-enter up to two times for the 30 day period after your initial entry into the kingdom. So really, you will still be able to stay in Thailand for up to 90 days before you will require the 30 day cooling off period in which you may not be in Thailand. So for a short few-month trip, this shouldn't be a problem.

Also, I don't see why buying a one way ticket is a problem - you can always say you are touring SE Asia and plan to return to the US via another country/city.

[allstar88]

(stogie bear @ Sep. 18 2006,01:20)

(allstar88 @ Sep. 17 2006,17:03) all the thai news papers say it is true and will happen in a couple of months(which in thai means 2 years) they say you can stay but with a work visa and pay tax all you ex-pats in los will have to look into this instead of hiding your heads in the sand and saying it will not happen .get over it ,life changes,all good things come to an end,paying tax is a fact of life

I assume you were wasted halfway to hell when you wrote that shit!  

charming,just having my opinion stogie ,rightly or wrongly. no need to spit your dummy out just because someone has a different  opinion to yours even if it is shit im talking     chill out stogie    

[katoeylover]

(stogie bear @ Sep. 17 2006,19:39) For all you people that want to avoid the 'scum' that live in Thailand then I suggest you keep away the bars they drink in because they ain't ever going anywhere!




It's a basic law of nature and Thailand is not exempt... if you chase someone he will run and hide! Do you really think that enforcing a relatively minor visa/entry regulation is gonna suddenly clean up the streets and make your life better for you when you come here?

Most of the "scum" being referred to here are on 2-week holidays only, getting drunk and obnoxious is all part of it. They will be around as long as Tour Companies offer 2 week holidays for £600!



Agree, Stogie, they will just stop leaving. When, and if they are ready to leave I am sure there are ways out of the country, or even getting new passports from the local embassies. Its all been done many times before, I lived in the States without a valid visa for over 4 years in the 90's, and i know many who are still doing it.

[stogie bear]

(allstar88 @ Sep. 18 2006,03:34) chill out stogie

I'm chilled out! But you must have been on something to write that, though, eh?

[allstar88]

(stogie bear @ Sep. 18 2006,04:41)

(allstar88 @ Sep. 18 2006,03:34) chill out stogie

I'm chilled out!    But you must have been on something to write that, though, eh?

drinks had been taken      

[Guest]

(Bam @ Sep. 17 2006,10:07)

(stogie bear @ Sep. 17 2006,05:54)

I vacationed in southern Thailand in 2003. What started out as a two week stay turned into almost 6 weeks. I loved the climate, the people as well as the low cost of living. After selling my home in the US I arrived here in Khaolak on March 20th 2004. I was 69 years of age at the time intended to spend the rest of my days here by applying for a Non O retirement visa. I transferred 3 Million Baht from one US into a Thai account.
Renting a small house, I met a young fellow here in town, married, one baby who operated a transportation company, spoke reasonable English but needed some money to expand his fleet while building a restaurant at the same time on his in-laws property. I lent him close to a million Baht. He thought I was the greatest thing since sliced bread. Suwan seemed to have connections and promised to get my non O retirement visa in short order. We traveled to Bangkok, Kuala Lumpur and supposedly had everything going.
Meanwhile I was involved in a car accident in Phuket and this is where he was indispensable dealing with the police, the insurer and the hospital. The insurance company balked at paying, since the victim was sent to a hospital which wanted to amputate the poor man€™s leg above the knee. I however insisted on a transfer to the International Hospital where they did save the fellow€™s limb. I paid all the hospital charges which came to just under 600,000 Baht, as well as the 200,000 Baht settlement for the family. I still had money in a US account which was now transferred into my account here. That left me with just under a million.

Then along came the tsunami. Suwan was visibly upset, having lost 4 out of 6 Minibuses as well 1 driver and 2 tourists that fateful day. I told him not to worry about the money, we will manage. The insurance company did send a check for 180,000 Baht which promptly bounced. Since I still had money in the bank I managed fine just on whatever social security sends me every month. One day Suwan received a letter stating additional customers had started a class action suit against the parent company of the insurer and a hearing would be held at the court in Phuket. I attended 2 sessions with Suwan but since I had fallen on my butt 2 weeks prior, injuring my spine, sitting was most uncomfortable. Besides I could not understand the proceedings anyway which were all in Thai, I therefore let him go by himself from then on. One day he called and said he had a check in the amount of 148,000 Baht in his Hands. Well, better than nothing I thought. He had my bank book and asked me to send him a signed power of attorney form, which his mother would bring up in order to withdraw money to pay the lawyer. Done deal.
That was the last anyone, including his family heard from him for 2 weeks. Somehow
I had a feeling something was amiss A trip to the bank confirmed my worst fears. He had cleaned me out. He didn€™t even leave me enough for a bottle of cheap Mekong whiskey. His family knows where he is (in Phuket) but won't tell me. Funny how quick the smiles disappeared, after my money was gone.

What can I do concerning the new visa regulations? I always hated those visa runs to Ranong anyway. I live frugally and have enough in the Bank again to afford a trip to Malaysia, or other country, except the US. Too far anyway. I wouldn€™t mind doing it once a year or semi-annually. I had purchased a new Mitsubishi pickup paying cash for it. Suwan however, without my knowledge had registered the truck in HIS name and refuses to send me the papers. (Knowing him, he probably borrowed money on it) I have only the receipt. He also still has my pass book. I can€™t even prove I did have 2 million in the account at one time.
I can not, nor would I want stay away for 3 months. I have a house with a 4year pre-paid lease, a dog, the truck and care for a couple of kids. I spend all my money here in town.
But what are the alternatives?

These idiots should be kicked off the planet just for being stupid!  

That guy should write a book called "How to get fucked-over good in Thailand"

He gave this Suwan guy full access to his bank account by giving him a signed power of attorney... that was really STUPID!

Wow this guy lost 3,000,000 Baht in 3 years. This guy really should just go home back to the US.

What the fuck makes you think we want the dumb ass back here? Send him to the Philippines.They can really fuck him over!!!

[Guest]

(stogie bear @ Sep. 18 2006,01:39) Fellas... Farangs (People like you and me) can't buy houses or own property or own a business unless (blah de blah de blah) or... on and on the list goes...

REALITY CHECK! all this shit goes on all the time and there are loopholes and ways around things.

For all you people that want to avoid the 'scum' that live in Thailand then I suggest you keep away the bars they drink in because they ain't ever going anywhere!

It's a basic law of nature and Thailand is not exempt... if you chase someone he will run and hide! Do you really think that enforcing a relatively minor visa/entry regulation is gonna suddenly clean up the streets and make your life better for you when you come here?

The more I read those frustrated buffoons posting on ThaiVisa the more I think that all of those wannabees and LOS Blues sufferes are actually jealous of those of us that live here and would do anything to get us all out and limited to two weeks a year each!

Now, I KNOW that we are above thinking like that on this forum, right chaps?  

Right on Stogie!I go 1=3 times a year&go to enjoy myself&mind my own business!Don't have time to worry about assholes!Thy're on their own&none of my business.Am there from October 5-26th next.Stogie if i run into you in Big Dogs or somewhere,beers on me!By the way there are assholes everywhere!!!

[Guest]

I lived in the States without a valid visa for over 4 years in the 90's, and i know many who are still doing it.

..that won't work now after 9/11, try to explain to INS when you leave what you have been doing here the past few years on an expired visa, you'll be in for a long interregation & probably miss your flight.  If you want to leave without taking the chance of being hasseled by INS you might have better luck leaving via Canada or Mexico..

new US-VISIT biometrics entry/exit procedures..

Updated rules & regs for US visas!