riff raff go home

[Masahiko]

I have a feeling if this is really going to be enforced that prices in Sihanoukville, Cambodia will go up quickly.

[Ladyboy_Loser!]

Finally an enlightened decision by the Thai Government. Get rid of the pond scum that do nothing to make Thailand a better place. Some of the ex-pats that have been using the visa run loophole for years have finally had their wake up call. Perhaps now Thailand will attract a better class of ex-pats who truly want to make Thailand their home and are willing to learn a little about Thai culture and ways. Few things are worse that sitting in a bar or restaurant and having to listen to some habbo go on and on about how shitty Thailand is. These types were losers in their country and now have the nerve to slam the country that took them in. I hope that this type just packs it all in and gets out of Thailand for good. This new immigrant policy is welcomed by me with enthusiasm.

[Guest]

I know very little about Thailand, but this sounds like it could reduce the number of LBs and GGs from other countries, and that could have an effect on the supply, leading to higher prices.

[tropical]

jamesallen66,
Welcome to the forum,hope you enjoy it here.
As for your thoughts about the reduction of available Lbs and GGs putting pressure on supply and raising prices, well this will never happen in our life time.
Thailand produces enough talent to quench any thirst,with the supply being bolstered daily from within Thailands own ranks.
Take a trip there and you will work this out for yourself...

[BAM]

(stogie bear @ Sep. 17 2006,05:54)

I vacationed in southern Thailand in 2003. What started out as a two week stay turned into almost 6 weeks. I loved the climate, the people as well as the low cost of living. After selling my home in the US I arrived here in Khaolak on March 20th 2004. I was 69 years of age at the time intended to spend the rest of my days here by applying for a Non O retirement visa. I transferred 3 Million Baht from one US into a Thai account.
Renting a small house, I met a young fellow here in town, married, one baby who operated a transportation company, spoke reasonable English but needed some money to expand his fleet while building a restaurant at the same time on his in-laws property. I lent him close to a million Baht. He thought I was the greatest thing since sliced bread. Suwan seemed to have connections and promised to get my non O retirement visa in short order. We traveled to Bangkok, Kuala Lumpur and supposedly had everything going.
Meanwhile I was involved in a car accident in Phuket and this is where he was indispensable dealing with the police, the insurer and the hospital. The insurance company balked at paying, since the victim was sent to a hospital which wanted to amputate the poor man€™s leg above the knee. I however insisted on a transfer to the International Hospital where they did save the fellow€™s limb. I paid all the hospital charges which came to just under 600,000 Baht, as well as the 200,000 Baht settlement for the family. I still had money in a US account which was now transferred into my account here. That left me with just under a million.

Then along came the tsunami. Suwan was visibly upset, having lost 4 out of 6 Minibuses as well 1 driver and 2 tourists that fateful day. I told him not to worry about the money, we will manage. The insurance company did send a check for 180,000 Baht which promptly bounced. Since I still had money in the bank I managed fine just on whatever social security sends me every month. One day Suwan received a letter stating additional customers had started a class action suit against the parent company of the insurer and a hearing would be held at the court in Phuket. I attended 2 sessions with Suwan but since I had fallen on my butt 2 weeks prior, injuring my spine, sitting was most uncomfortable. Besides I could not understand the proceedings anyway which were all in Thai, I therefore let him go by himself from then on. One day he called and said he had a check in the amount of 148,000 Baht in his Hands. Well, better than nothing I thought. He had my bank book and asked me to send him a signed power of attorney form, which his mother would bring up in order to withdraw money to pay the lawyer. Done deal.
That was the last anyone, including his family heard from him for 2 weeks. Somehow
I had a feeling something was amiss A trip to the bank confirmed my worst fears. He had cleaned me out. He didn€™t even leave me enough for a bottle of cheap Mekong whiskey. His family knows where he is (in Phuket) but won't tell me. Funny how quick the smiles disappeared, after my money was gone.

What can I do concerning the new visa regulations? I always hated those visa runs to Ranong anyway. I live frugally and have enough in the Bank again to afford a trip to Malaysia, or other country, except the US. Too far anyway. I wouldn€™t mind doing it once a year or semi-annually. I had purchased a new Mitsubishi pickup paying cash for it. Suwan however, without my knowledge had registered the truck in HIS name and refuses to send me the papers. (Knowing him, he probably borrowed money on it) I have only the receipt. He also still has my pass book. I can€™t even prove I did have 2 million in the account at one time.
I can not, nor would I want stay away for 3 months. I have a house with a 4year pre-paid lease, a dog, the truck and care for a couple of kids. I spend all my money here in town.
But what are the alternatives?

These idiots should be kicked off the planet just for being stupid!  

That guy should write a book called "How to get fucked-over good in Thailand"

He gave this Suwan guy full access to his bank account by giving him a signed power of attorney... that was really STUPID!

Wow this guy lost 3,000,000 Baht in 3 years. This guy really should just go home back to the US.

[Guest]

every thinkg costly i heard the airport entry is now 700bhatt from 500 elaier same is in case of on arrival visa fee also ealier it was 1000bhatt i heard it is also increased now can some one califiy
sonu1554

[Stewart]

These idiots should be kicked off the planet just for being stupid!

That guy should write a book called "How to get fucked-over good in Thailand"

He gave this Suwan guy full access to his bank account by giving him a signed power of attorney... that was really STUPID!

Wow this guy lost 3,000,000 Baht in 3 years. This guy really should just go home back to the US.

And it was a guy.....so he didn't even get a shag out of it!!!

[Randyman]

(Bam @ Sep. 16 2006,22:07) These idiots should be kicked off the planet just for being stupid!  

That guy should write a book called "How to get fucked-over good in Thailand"

He gave this Suwan guy full access to his bank account by giving him a signed power of attorney... that was really STUPID!

Wow this guy lost 3,000,000 Baht in 3 years. This guy really should just go home back to the US.[/quote]
Good thing he didn't marry ex, it would have been gone in 3 weeks.

RM

[looktoyou]

I would be interested in seeing a debate of the effects - assume the VOA changes are implemented. Then what happens? The ferals who won't /can't leave Thailand become more feral? Bars close? Condos don't sell/rent? Other businesses get shut down?

I am sorry to see those decent people affected, however most frequent visitors will see the guy sitting on a bar stool dressed in a T-shirt bought 5 years ago (and worn everyday). We are guests, it is their country.

[stogie bear]

Oh my goodness. I'm hearing the same thing on here as I can get on ThaiVisa!

"Good - no more pond scum" etc! Sorry to break it to you folks, but this is Thailand and nothing changes!

And even if the police actually enforced the Visa regulations how on earth would that get rid of the people that some of you snobs don't want here? Do you really think that all the lager louts and expats are gonna simply line up for deportation?

It's all huff and puff and the ways around this are too numerous to mention!

[dummy_plug]

(sonu1554 @ Sep. 17 2006,11:49) every thinkg costly i heard the airport entry is now 700bhatt from 500 elaier same is in case of on arrival visa fee also ealier it was 1000bhatt i heard it is also increased now can some one califiy
sonu1554

I don't know about the exit fee for the new airport, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was raised to help cover costs. Before you complain about it, even at 700 baht its less or roughly on par to what some other developing tourist countries, such as Costa Rica, charge. If you're like me, and spend $2-$3k USD per trip, its a pittance.

With regards to entry visa fee, as far as I know, visitors from one of the 41 exempt visa countries such as the USA, Japan, Canada, and Australia, do not need to pay this fee.

[allstar88]

all the thai news papers say it is true and will happen in a couple of months(which in thai means 2 years) they say you can stay but with a work visa and pay tax all you ex-pats in los will have to look into this instead of hiding your heads in the sand and saying it will not happen .get over it ,life changes,all good things come to an end,paying tax is a fact of life        

[allstar88]

having said all the above a bribe will allow you to stay      

[kempthorn]

(stogie bear @ Sep. 17 2006,05:54)

I vacationed in southern Thailand in 2003. What started out as a two week stay turned into almost 6 weeks. I loved the climate, the people as well as the low cost of living. After selling my home in the US I arrived here in Khaolak on March 20th 2004. I was 69 years of age at the time intended to spend the rest of my days here by applying for a Non O retirement visa. I transferred 3 Million Baht from one US into a Thai account.
Renting a small house, I met a young fellow here in town, married, one baby who operated a transportation company, spoke reasonable English but needed some money to expand his fleet while building a restaurant at the same time on his in-laws property. I lent him close to a million Baht. He thought I was the greatest thing since sliced bread. Suwan seemed to have connections and promised to get my non O retirement visa in short order. We traveled to Bangkok, Kuala Lumpur and supposedly had everything going.
Meanwhile I was involved in a car accident in Phuket and this is where he was indispensable dealing with the police, the insurer and the hospital. The insurance company balked at paying, since the victim was sent to a hospital which wanted to amputate the poor man€™s leg above the knee. I however insisted on a transfer to the International Hospital where they did save the fellow€™s limb. I paid all the hospital charges which came to just under 600,000 Baht, as well as the 200,000 Baht settlement for the family. I still had money in a US account which was now transferred into my account here. That left me with just under a million.

Then along came the tsunami. Suwan was visibly upset, having lost 4 out of 6 Minibuses as well 1 driver and 2 tourists that fateful day. I told him not to worry about the money, we will manage. The insurance company did send a check for 180,000 Baht which promptly bounced. Since I still had money in the bank I managed fine just on whatever social security sends me every month. One day Suwan received a letter stating additional customers had started a class action suit against the parent company of the insurer and a hearing would be held at the court in Phuket. I attended 2 sessions with Suwan but since I had fallen on my butt 2 weeks prior, injuring my spine, sitting was most uncomfortable. Besides I could not understand the proceedings anyway which were all in Thai, I therefore let him go by himself from then on. One day he called and said he had a check in the amount of 148,000 Baht in his Hands. Well, better than nothing I thought. He had my bank book and asked me to send him a signed power of attorney form, which his mother would bring up in order to withdraw money to pay the lawyer. Done deal.
That was the last anyone, including his family heard from him for 2 weeks. Somehow
I had a feeling something was amiss A trip to the bank confirmed my worst fears. He had cleaned me out. He didn€™t even leave me enough for a bottle of cheap Mekong whiskey. His family knows where he is (in Phuket) but won't tell me. Funny how quick the smiles disappeared, after my money was gone.

What can I do concerning the new visa regulations? I always hated those visa runs to Ranong anyway. I live frugally and have enough in the Bank again to afford a trip to Malaysia, or other country, except the US. Too far anyway. I wouldn€™t mind doing it once a year or semi-annually. I had purchased a new Mitsubishi pickup paying cash for it. Suwan however, without my knowledge had registered the truck in HIS name and refuses to send me the papers. (Knowing him, he probably borrowed money on it) I have only the receipt. He also still has my pass book. I can€™t even prove I did have 2 million in the account at one time.
I can not, nor would I want stay away for 3 months. I have a house with a 4year pre-paid lease, a dog, the truck and care for a couple of kids. I spend all my money here in town.
But what are the alternatives?

These idiots should be kicked off the planet just for being stupid!  

for stogie or bam: could you tell me how to e-mail this.
i have a friend who i am concerned could get
ensnarled in this type situation. he was here early
in the year and is returning next month. you know
the story. 'shes a good girl and really likes me and her family needs help'. i have talked to him. this experience might awaken him. i have windows xphome with
a dail up modem in my condo. how can i send this?
thanks

[Guest]

for stogie or bam: could you tell me how to e-mail this.
i have a friend who i am concerned could get
ensnarled in this type situation. he was here early
in the year and is returning next month. you know
the story. 'shes a good girl and really likes me and her family needs help'. i have talked to him. this experience might awaken him. i have windows xphome with
a dail up modem in my condo. how can i send this?
thanks

Copy and paste it into your email.