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  • #61
    Where to begin...

    First off, I think she's quick to blame her troubles on being a ladyboy. I'm not ignorant to the fact that ladyboys face limited options and discrimination in the workplace, but I'm not stupid. I've personally met a few ladyboys that appear to have decent jobs with bright career prospects who seem happy in their current fields of employment. They do well enough and are satisfied enough that they don't feel the need to sell their bodies for baht. Probably somewhat weaker of an argument, but I've heard of other ladyboys that have started their own businesses or gotten jobs in other good places. As pointed out in this forum many times, the actual number of ladyboy prostitutes working in bars or freelancing is only a small percentage of the total population. Somehow the majority of LBs get by in life without laying on their backs... It's hard to say if this is the reason for this particular ladyboy's predicament - but there are a variety of factors (remember, this being Thailand) that could halt one's upward mobility in the career world. Could it be she's just not that smart or hard-working, that she didn't go to a good uni, that she didn't get good grades, or that her family is of poor ancestry, yadda yadda yadda. The list could go on. I hear it all the time when in the US. "I didn't get hired by X because I'm Latino" or "They picked that guy over me because he's better looking". Half the time I want to scream to these people to get a clue! If you read her rant again, she's saying she wants to run away from "petty salaries and jobs that suck". That pretty much describes half the jobs in Thailand (and probably half in the US too), but you don't see half of Thailand working in bars. Clearly there is girl is of a different cut than the other Thais you see toiling around in the rice fields, KFC, taxis, and small shops.

    Second, she tries to make an argument of not being greedy. Yeah sure, some of the girls who work in these places have a heart of gold (snicker), but that's maybe 1 in a million. Most of the girls we talk about on this forum can make a small fortune in a month - often times making the kind of salary most Thais think about earning for a month's work in a matter of days. Yet, they continue working, continue hassling customers for tips and drinks, continue to haggle with even experienced punters, and more often than not try to rip off the newbs. One only has to read the first trip reports of people such as myself, Simon, and Bk120 to see where this occurs. Before we blame the punters for being stupid - lets not forget that I/these guys also had experiences with girls that charged more of a "fair" rate. Once again, its hard to determine the "fair" rate as there is no set price for this service, but its not difficult to see where the greed falls in.

    Third, this ladyboy only tells one side of the story - the bad side. We've all met some friends from the board at one time or another in LOS and I can see its a fine group. None of the guys I've met even remotely resembles the guy in her story one bit. And I've probably met 15+ guys from ATS forums. All of these chaps are respectable, know how to treat a lady, tip well, and have done extraordinary things for the girls they've seen. Whether it be trips to Phuket or Hua Hin, a new air conditioner, jewelry, or just a generous sum for their time and companionship - I'm sure this ladyboy has seen it and certainly more than once. I'm sure she takes those with a smile and never gives it a second thought about what these people have done for her. Until she can give both sides of the coin I'm inclined to tell this girl to just deal with it. She's dug her own grave, don't cry when you have to sleep in it.
    I'm a rough-ridin', hootin' and hollerin', ladyboy lovin' cowboy! Bang bang yer dead!!!

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    • #62
      was in bed club on wed night with mint and helen. never saw any god looking ggs. except for a couple pf weston girls.
      900 bhat to get in and two drinks.
      fucking crap place opens at around 11pm and closesx at 1-30pm
      pointless
      just a sex tourist looking for hot fun

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      • #63
        Helen? From Cascades? The one who wants to kill me?
        I'm a rough-ridin', hootin' and hollerin', ladyboy lovin' cowboy! Bang bang yer dead!!!

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        • #64
          Unfortunately, DP, I think they only remember their last experience, whether it be good or bad and this reflects on their overall impression of farang. There is also a lot of peer pressure in the bars for scoring from Farang.

          Randyman, I really think this girl is having a hard time coming to terms that this is what she has chosen to do, and by the fact that she has admitted to running off with his money, without following through on their deal, is it any wonder she gets badmouthed on the boards?
          seriously pig headed,arrogant,double standard smart ass poster!

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          • #65
            (dummy_plug @ Sep. 17 2006,17:57)  Helen? From Cascades? The one who wants to kill me?
            No I believe this is another Helen a friend of Mint who works on flirt4free. Nice girl with a very big dick also.

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            • #66
              i take a few, sometimes nana, sometimes cowboy but never 33, bar fines in 33 are too big!! GG's are ok some good some bad they have to be something special though to tempt me to part with my cash, never pay more than 1,000-1,500

              Most will give you number if you want to avoid barfines and see them on their "day off"!!!

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              • #67
                got to Soi 7 Beer Garden Friday afternoon between 4 and 8 and watch the office gilrs roll in for some weekend $'s... some are pretty good... had 3some for 3,000baht the other week... perfect..

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                • #68
                  Well i did it.

                  Obviously my main priority was to unload inside a beautiful lb, then i strolled over to Q bar.

                  It was a thursday and seemed fairly quiet but bought a drink and gained a good vantage point. Most of the good lookers with paired up already and the place seemd to be full of backpackers who one by one decided to introduce themselves to me, iam sure i had 'iam a lonely bastard' tattoed on my forehead. Anyway after a few drinks i think my standards dropped and i found a lovely young thing ( or so i thought).

                  The q bar closed just as i started to get me grove on so the gg and her friends invited me along to another club, we all bundled in back of her car where the started to dish out some exctasy. Dteremined to prove iam still young at heart, as i was now celebrating my 32nd birthday, i downed a couple of pills.

                  The second club was pretty cool, a little open sided place near patong area, full of falangs still but music was good, no it was great, no i mean fucking fantastic. Or was that just the pills. Just as i start to lose the plot the music stops and iam told it shuts at 3. Thankfully we know somewhere else so back in the car where i systematically try and grope all the girls as forgotten which one invited me along. Found her and at closer inspection she was the ugly one, blinding.

                  The third place was on soi 7 you wouldnt even know its there, we walked into a closed bar out the back up some stairs all in dark and silence, i was hoping that the girls were gona gang rape me, then we opened the door and there must of been a 100 people having it large. Hope someone here knows this place as i cant remember any details, except it was quite good in there and i think went an till about 5am. Also spotted two rather awkward looking lbs in there, seen them before strolling around sukumvit.

                  By this time iam loved up with the ugly one and want to carry the party on all night so back in the car again, more narcotics and off to another smaller joint on soi 11.

                  Think i got back to hotel room about 9am with the ugly one in hand, pounded the poor bitch for hours but couldnt cum not sure if it was pills or the fact that she was a gg and not to active in the bedroom.

                  We slept most of the day, and she knew it was time to leave at about 6 and didnt ask for money. Although i thought of charging her as she wished me a happy 32nd birthday and admitted that she was 36.
                  Pussy Stinks

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                  • #69
                    (SQUIRLY @ Sep. 26 2006,03:01) The second club was pretty cool, a little open sided place near patong area, full of falangs still but music was good, no it was great, no i mean fucking fantastic. Or was that just the pills. Just as i start to lose the plot the music stops and iam told it shuts at 3.
                    Sounds like Twilo - bar on one side and through a doorway and upstairs to the toilet? Yup it is a good place - heck these girls have probably seen our LB parties as they seem to be a regular occurence in there these days.

                    Cheers
                    Mardhi

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                    • #70
                      Taking pills with an unknown gang of girls...you my friend are far braver than me. All's well that ends well, right?

                      Curious she didn't ask you for dosh though, it's my understanding that E costs about as much there as it does in the West, but I could be mistaken.
                      I'm a rough-ridin', hootin' and hollerin', ladyboy lovin' cowboy! Bang bang yer dead!!!

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                      • #71
                        I meant i didnt pay for sex, i paid plenty for drinks and pills.
                        Pussy Stinks

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                        • #72
                          My LB contact in PTY tells me 'E' is 1,200/pill. Same in BKK? --- anyone in the know? Going out w/ a bunch of gurls on the 'hug drug' can be GREAT fun.
                          More, More, More ... how do you like it?, how do you like it? ... More, More, More ...

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                          • #73
                            Dont forget to haggle Pilos, 1000 bht in pattaya and 800 in bkk if your lucky.

                            Theres nothing like getting luved up with an lb.
                            Pussy Stinks

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                            • #74
                              (PILOS @ Oct. 09 2006,12:50)  Going out w/ a bunch of gurls on the 'hug drug' can be GREAT fun.  
                              ....until it turns into the "mug drug"

                              Be careful boys don't play with fire.....randyman
                              ain't life grand

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                              • #75
                                Taking a drug off someone you don't know is bordering on stupidity.

                                You guys are just asking for trouble. Sorry about being so harsh but it is so easy to be taken by any one of these girls even when you are stone cold sober let alone flying as high as a kite.

                                I would say you guys were very lucky as things could have ended badly.

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