Are you a good customer?

[snejana_demientrovska]

working girls have feelings.....even if they are hooking up around with anyone....being a prostitute doesnt have a standard price or a price tag like in the supermarket...they can bid or round it off anytime they want to.....and its up to you to negotiate...

i really notice in this forum why a particular working girl has two side of comments from positive to negative....and its the reason why i write those things cause yess working girls have feeling and they also apply it to thier costumers.....of course try to think about it
being maltreated or misuse by costumers like for example fucking them so rough or chocking them with your cock........making them cum multiple times where these girls are in hormones......and make them scram after treat them like sex toy...yes there is a tendancy that this girls will do some vengence on you......like stealing some of your stuff without you noticing.....or ask some big price....or if you come back in the bar warn some other girls if you ever pick another one...and plan some vengence........

well of course showing some respect is also doing some hygene for yourself.....imagine that westeners and caucasian tends to sweat 3 times compare to asian if they are in hot country and some of them smell so bad......can you ever imagine yourself no shower stinky cock specially if you are uncercumcised it will stink 2 times....sour smell armpits......and you tell the girl go take some shower before we had sex...then you let her suck your cock for a long time ...and the girl is totally disgusted by your smell...no hygene....what do you think do you think the girl will charge you cheap.......

guys gives bonus to the working girl by its satisfaction and good performance...while working girls give bonus by how costumer treat them in some ways or how they like the costumers

try to be more sensitive and be more nice...be generous, accomodating and also hmmm if she likes you so much theres are tendency even the cold-hearted prostitute can warm up her heart

also good accomodation can warm them up cause if you kick the girls ass after paying and sex...they will ask for some addition and slams a door on you

i think you have to treat them as a true girlfriend expereince

[Mai-Kee]

(Snick @ Jun. 14 2006,10:47) Things really aren't that black and white, there is a big middle ground especially in Asia, which for lack of a better term I'll call "compensated dating".

Which pretty much adds upto the girl expects to be compensated and still exercise some choice in who she goes with. And depending on her choice, she expects to get some enjoyment out of it.

We always talk about how we like the GFE, well its a two way street. If you want to feel like more than a John, then you have to treat the girl as more than a prostitute.

"Compensated dating" - excellent term!!!

And you are totally right, it IS this grey area that makes farang men go crazy about Asians (gg's, guys, lb's). It is this GIRLFRIEND EXPERIENCE. And exactly that's what I think is extremely hard to handle for some guys as they get puzzled about what's going on here.
I really recommend to keep a VERY CLEAR line between "business sex" and "sex for fun". The clearer the line - and "renting" a girl for days or weeks doesn't help to make things clearer - the less gf-experience I expect or worse "ask for" - the better it is probably for both sides!
I think Ziggy commented once that being in a normal relationship in Thailand means "to take care of the girl" which includes always a financial caretaking - probably more than an emotional. That's what the girls expect - no matter what class. That's very different to the west wher the girls are trying to be as much (financially) independent as possible.

And to Minnie: Of course even in the biz, girls have preferences and nobody likes the fat, stinky, ugly bastards, who are demanding and on top stingy!
That's all clear and of course, like in any other business, the innkeeper can kick the drunks and nasty ones out of his bar!
But still, also in your very own interest, keep a clear line between biz and fun!

MK

[gunslinger]

Oh, so..good sex is about about mutual satisfaction

Ah now i see , I never realised before, all this time I wondered what i was doing wrong.

[Guest]

(ronin @ Jun. 14 2006,14:58) Should I stir the pot?  I think I will put another spin here.  

You are talking about "prostitute"- someone who gets pay for having sex with a "customer".  It's a service industry, and you don't get to pick your customer, because if you do, then you will be out of work.  

There was a "joke":  "How do you give a woman orgasm?  Who cares."  That's a crude analogy of the "hooker-john relationship".  So, as long as there is money involve, then the customer is always right- as long as he pays.  In the end, it's all albout hustling:  you get pay when the customer "comes", whether there are any sex or not.  Anything more is added value or bonus to entice return business or tips.  It's called "Marketing"

If you are concern about the customer being handsome, well-hung, sensitive, etc..., then maybe you are not suitable for this profession.  A customer with all those attributes may not need to hire a prostitute.  I am in no way suggesting that the customer be rude to the service provider, simply, the onus is on the provider to be accomodating.

I hope I wasn't too rude, probably lit a few roman candle under a few of your   s.  

Is this flaming?  Should I be worry?  

Ronin

Not trying to bust your balls or anything, but I am assuming you must be a student, a low level cashier, or living on welfare checks.

You can't seriously be any kind of business owner or manager and think that way. Have you ever run a business?

[Snick]

I wish I could take credit for the term "Compensated Dating". but like all great ideas..IT'S JAPANESE.

[Guest]

Well call me a big softy but i always insist my partner  "gets off" and enjoys herself before i have my evil way.        

As for the other things i am not a "Hansom Maaaan" but i am kind and considerate and just as happy to be out for the day at the pool or zoo etc.
I always seem to pay too much as well and buy shoes/makeup/stuff.
I am weak.

[gunslinger]

and just as happy to be out for the day at the pool or zoo etc

you make it sound like you spend the rest of your time in some sort of mental institution.

[Guest]

(admirer_uk2005 @ Jun. 14 2006,23:12) Well call me a big softy but i always insist my partner  "gets off" and enjoys herself before i have my evil way.        

As for the other things i am not a "Hansom Maaaan" but i am kind and considerate and just as happy to be out for the day at the pool or zoo etc.
I always seem to pay too much as well and buy shoes/makeup/stuff.
I am weak.

I certainly want my partner to enjoy herself as that for is what it is all about, but I was talking generally and not specifically about myself before in my response.

Not trying to bust your balls or anything, but I am assuming you must be a student, a low level cashier, or living on welfare checks.

You can't seriously be any kind of business owner or manager and think that way. Have you ever run a business?

Although maybe ronin may not have expressed himself as clearly as he might have wanted to I think the idea is if you are paying for a service then expect that service to be provided as described and the only expectation from the service provider is that they are appropriately financially compensated. Of course simple common courtesy and respect should prevail in these situations and we should all treat each other with such.

I also agree with Snick in that in Asia especially the lines are blurred quite a bit between customer and social acquaintance.

[Guest]

..well i cant really comment on this subject becuz I've never had to pay,hahaha!!          

[tampanugget_2001]

I can't believe that some of the posters responding in this thread, and ignoring what appears to be good free advice, i.e. even if there might be money involved, treat the girl nice and its likely that she will treat you nice in return.

When I read here that "the customer is always right" etc. it makes me wonder how some people can be so clueless. I am a great believer in customer service and can quote you from numerous Tom Peters' books ad nausem. I think I understand that purchasing a ladyboy as a companion for the evening is not the same as renting a car. Like it or not (it seems some board members want robots, and if you read other GG thai forums their members are much worse in this regard) that ladyboys are human beings and can respond either positively or negatively as to how they are treated.

Whether we are prostitutes or not, we all like the illusion of free will (that we have some limited control over our on destiny). If the ladyboy does not want to ideally go with some fat, smelly farang who has not bathed in a week, then that is her choice. I work in an industry very dependant on good customer service, but as a service provider sometimes there is a limit to the amount of B.S. that you are willing to accept from a customer before you tell that customer that they might be happier going to another place of bussiness.

I am willing to bet that both parties to the transaction would have a lot better time (i.e. better sex) if we as punters followed the "golden rule" (do unto others as you want them to do unto you) in dealing with the ladyboys. Buy the ladyboys an extra drink, give them a beer out of the minibar, suck them off, give them a bit more than they expect, etc. It amazes me that people travel halfway around the world and then try to nickle and dime the locals. I see some of doing to the ladyboys/GG bar girls the equivalent of getting into a heated bargining session over 25 cents at the night market over buying a fake rolex.

Bottom line (after much rambling on my part) be nice to the ladyboys, it won't really cost you that much, and you may be rewarded for it.

[tampanugget_2001]

I just found a good example of what I'm talking about above. Go read Robin69's post about his time with Ming in the Photo section. The photos if nothing else should convince board members of the merits of treating a ladyboy nicely, whether or not your paying for her time.

[Guest]

(snejana_demientrovska @ Jun. 14 2006,07:35) we had sex and it was really great...gosh i did love what im doing....and its paying time...i told him that give me 3000 pesos and he said he doesnt have enough money to pay me and its quite high and decided to give me 1500peso and i told him ok up to you

again, I can't believe the intelligence and wit supplied up here almost daily now from our cute young friend from Cebu..... such a great plus to this board getting words of wisdom from a ladyboy while the rest of the readers here are not in that catagory. It adds to an already-great board, but remember Raquela, most of our readers here date Thai ladyboys and that is a whole different species of ladyboy [although most of these same rules certainly still apply to them also].

  the line I highlighted about the Puerto Rican{?!} guy worries me however..... if the sex was so good, why take his cash?  I know you are working  and need the dough but if he was so good it seems like money should not have been an issue, you actually LIKED him.

      But this all seems obvious to me..... you treat someone well and they will treat you well. At least that is the basic premise.....in life in general!  Not just in sexual [mis]adventures. I always treat these girls well [at least I believe so] and pay them well also.  I have more money than them and they are providing a service for me that I want, same as the person giving me a foot massage or  a haircut, if they do a good job they get compensated fairly for their work.

 Great post and thoughts......again....Raquela      

[Looker]

(ronin @ Jun. 14 2006,14:58) If you are concern about the customer being handsome, well-hung, sensitive, etc..., then maybe you are not suitable for this profession.  A customer with all those attributes may not need to hire a prostitute.  I am in no way suggesting that the customer be rude to the service provider, simply, the onus is on the provider to be accomodating.

Personally, I don't think there is nothing idiotic in this sentence.

Guys..a part from the fact that I really do not think anybody of us here gets a LB, runs back to the room, rips her skirt off and bang her sensellessly for 30 minutes throwing 1000 baht on the floor and pointing at the door..OK!!

If some of you do that..well..excuse me

Having said that..like it or not..it's a business and yes..the customer (or costumer) has the priority and I dun give a fuck of who says the opposite!
I'm in the business of selling technical stuff, and I can guarantee that no matter how well I've always presented my products and done all my marketing and got all my nice shares of the markets..my ass is always on the line!
Every day..and I mean every fuckin' day, I've to look at my shoulder from competitors and grab my customers by their legs to keep buying my products, and not leaving me in the mud.

Boys..it's an hard world outthere, and I bet most of you knows that too well!

Now, should I even thinking twice or three times before asking something to a pro that has just come out from the ST room and doesn't really give a fuck about who I'm??

[SamplerDoc]

Interesting info on your thread....thanks

[stogie bear]

I think I understand that purchasing a ladyboy as a companion for the evening is not the same as renting a car.

Well - they both work better well oiled!