Meet the parents

[stogie bear]

 However these peple maybe poor - but as Stogie says they seem more happy and content than we do.

yup, life's not about the bucks!  

Yes - as you say - it's not all about the bucks...

Having said that; there is a threshold of comfort that I refuse to fall below. When you are young, rustic travelling and 'backpacking it' may seem cool and mind broadening. When you are older living rough is simply annoying!

There is a middle ground between wealth and poverty and happiness doesn't seem to enter the picture with many of us!

Put simply - I no longer stay at any place that says "Rooms - fan - 250 Baht!" on a board in the window! On the other hand it's unlikely that I'll ever manage to stay in 5 star hotels either.

Comfort and happiness seem to take more of a priority the shorter time you have left to live!

I remember showering in a filthy oil drum in Honduras thinking I was waaay cool and seeing things many people with half a brain would happily pass over!

I'm afraid that these days this old codger needs a loo that actually flushes, clean towels and hot water!

[Looker]

Having said that; there is a threshold of comfort that I refuse to fall below. When you are young, rustic travelling and 'backpacking it' may seem cool and mind broadening. When you are older living rough is simply annoying!

There is a middle ground between wealth and poverty and happiness doesn't seem to enter the picture with many of us!

Put simply - I no longer stay at any place that says "Rooms - fan - 250 Baht!" on a board in the window! On the other hand it's unlikely that I'll ever manage to stay in 5 star hotels either.

Comfort and happiness seem to take more of a priority the shorter time you have left to live!

I remember showering in a filthy oil drum in Honduras thinking I was waaay cool and seeing things many people with half a brain would happily pass over!

I'm afraid that these days this old codger needs a loo that actually flushes, clean towels and hot water!

Very true..
Poor but Beautiful looks nice in the movies only. In real life we need a minimum of comfort, or at least I do, without which my brain will refuse to work logically.
Having said that, one thing it's probably true - someone who has been living in a poor area when overnight is catapulted into a relative comfort may loose sense of how things really are, and no longer will accept to go back to the original status.
I've seen this happening over ad over. Take away a mobile phone from a peasant's hand and you'll kill him! If you know what I mean, as a simple example
So, when in the western world comfort and life quality have come a slower pace, in developing countries it's still coming at tsunami style, often making more victims that real gainers.

[Guest]

I think you are nuts to get serious with any of these butt whores but that is my opinion. I love them so much and I hate them just as much as i love them. I love them until I cum then I hate them again till I get horny again but I am always resprectful and nice too them but I would never go visit their families. The families must look at you like you are a freak dating their freaky "daughter"

[Tomcat]

it's not all about the bucks...

Money cant buy you happiness
But at least you can be miserable in comfort !

[Looker]

but I am always resprectful and nice too them

..didn't you just say Butt Whores?

[Guest]

yes but I donnot call them that to their face. I am honest and candid here on the forum though and I think Ziggy is nuts. I love ladyboys too but I donnot go out and try to marry them and deal with their families in rural NE Thailand. Give me a break what does he have in common with these "girls" long term? nothing.

[stogie bear]

but I am always resprectful and nice too them

..didn't you just say Butt Whores?  

[Looker]

yes but I donnot call them that to their face. I am honest and candid here on the forum though and I think Ziggy is nuts. I love ladyboys too but I donnot go out and try to marry them and deal with their families in rural NE Thailand. Give me a break what does he have in common with these "girls" long term? nothing.

Of course I was joking..LOL!!
Well..I've no comments about Ziggy since I do not know him personally.
In principal I agree with you and I wrote it in another thread too. Mingling with them maybe OK but go all the way for a LTR would definitely scare me off.
But then again, I don't know him and the other guys who are trying to be or already into a LTR so can't really say.

[Guest]

Listen his relationship with this girl is doomed from the start. We all know that

[Guest]

Hey Reflections

Having lived there several years ago, my personal experience with those Miami girls suggested they can be a real rough crowd - did one of those crazy Latinas get her hooks into you and mess you up bad, man?

Seems to me like your "love / hate" relationship with the girls is keeping you from seeing a larger picture

As far as Ziggy goes - any chance of cutting the man a little slack?

This guy has previously lived and worked all over Asia before settling down in Thailand, and clearly has developed a level of comfort both with the girls and the culture of his host country

Far from being a "freak",  I think Ziggy - like Stogie and his Kui some years ago - has a ton of heart for doing what he is going with his girl

You have every right, of course, to proclaim your preferences for the whores of Pattaya, Miami, and elsewhere

That said, how about cranking it down a notch or two and showing at least a little respect for a guy who has the guts to try to move on from the ST / LT bar scene and look for something more?  

Lastly - thanks for a great thread, Ziggy, and good luck to you and your girl  

I hope a couple of cheap shots here will not deter you from keeping the rest of us posted on your adventure

[Guest]

After 10 years in Asia, almost 4 in Thailand, 350 Ladyboys, and having picked May out of all that as someone I care for...I'm just trying to understand how to respond to someone who calls her a butt whore (but respects her), and that I am ignorant on LB relationships.

What's clear to me is that your intellect and sense of decency is far less than May's, and for that I am very happy that my friendeship and budding relationship is with May, however long that may be, and that I will never have the displeasure of ever seeing or speaking to you, except in disgust on this forum.

Regards,

Ziggy

[Guest]

I apologize Ziggy and I didnot mean to insult you personally. I just don't see it and I cannot understand it due to a lot of bad relationships I have had with the third sex. Please accept my apology and I am not a bad guy. I should have re-phrased things differently. I hope we are cool now.

[Guest]

At my age and stage in life I think that the likelihood of my ever reaching a level of togetherness like Ziggy and May approaches zero. I nevertheless am aware of and open to that possibility. I think there is so much more possible in a relationship than just physically rubbing our bodies together for that orgasmic rush. If the chemistry is right and the people mature enough to understand what it is they want, there is another entire universe of connection that two people may have other than just sex.

For Ziggy and the others on this forum who are at least trying, I salute you. While the odds may be against you, you are making the attempt.