Age: Does age matter?

[Bicycle Pump]

Age doesn't matter if you are talking about prostitution in the traditional sense of the word as understood by Western countries.

Sex for money in The West is simply a physical exercise. Your health is more a consideration than age.

But in Asia when you pay for a girl or a ladyboy then, like many of us, you will want a fulfilling experience of the mind as well as the body... The GFE (The Girlfriend Experience!)

You want to feel as if she is enjoying your company as much as you are enjoying hers.

To this end age does matter... but not much.

For tourists on holiday the following list of characteristics are foremost in a working girls mind... (and they ARE in order of importance!)

1 - Ability to pay. (This is where being Japanese comes in handy.)

2 - Cleanliness/being clean shaven/having fresh breath. It's hard to act all 'lovey dovey' to a dirtbag as Thais are fastidiously clean.

3 - How you dress. A ladyboy will spend hours on her appearance and is impressed when her customers make the effort to look their best.

4 - Your health/physical appearance. It's easier to be close to someone you are comfortable looking at.

5 - Your behaviour in the bar/public areas. Thai people are all about 'saving face' and 'style over substance.' You won't engage the attention of your chosen partner by acting weird, groping, shouting, etc... (That's where not being British comes in handy.)

6 - Drinking/smoking. If you drink then don't get drunk. If you smoke then find a ladyboy partner who smokes, too.

7 - Age!

If you just want a quickie in a short time room then of course none of these things (apart from NUMBER 1) rate highly on her agenda!

If you want her for the whole night then you'd better make sure she wants to be there for more than just the money. She'll wriggle out of any spoken promises if you aren't.

Of course; you are going to get who you want if the money/timing is right but to make the best of it and get the very best out of her then at least play your part and act like you are courting her.

It's always worked for me.

[PigDogg]

(Bicycle Pump! @ Dec. 10 2009,20:32) whole night

Some ladyboys prefer a quick exit but are not strict clock watchers as are the 200 Euros per hour Western hookers. They may not like faking all night affection or want to party with friends, smoke ice, see their thai boyfriend, or get another customer.

On the other hand, some like staying all night and you have to kick them out at 3PM the next day. They have to sleep somewhere and your room is more comfortable than theirs. Or maybe they like watching TV.

Some put in an effort to give a great GFE hoping you'll take them for a week or become a sponsor.

Some guys feel that getting then to leave is more difficult than getting them to give you great sex.

[pacman]

Essential information from Bicycle Pump there, read & learn Steff.

And thanks PigDogg, I never even considered the theft angle. The more I think about a 3some first-up, the more I think it is a bad idea.

It is just too easy for the girls to exploit a new guy. Steff is at a complete disadvantage.

Just because they will promise to "do everything" when you are talking to them, don't think that guarantees you of any enthusiasm in the room.

There are stories here on the forum of guys complaining that the girls they hired for an orgy only pretended to have sex. Others have reported of one girl hiding in the bathroom while the customer did the business with the first.

As PD writes, they are keen to go for a 3some as it gets her & her friend a payday. Plus they can work together to squeeze more money out of you while they put in half the effort.

After all, you can only operate on one of them at a time. Oh, you want them to make love to each other? Make sure you spell that out & be prepared to pay a voyeur's tax.

Even if someone here can give you the name of the best double team in LOS, you will be seen as a soft touch (pardon the pun) because of your lack of Thai experience. It won't take them more than 30 seconds to figure that out.

Still, business has been slow so now you have been forewarned about what might happen, you have every chance to avoid the problems & arrange for yourself that sexual fantasy you are dreaming of.

Good luck with it. Please let us know how it went.

[thegame925]

Take of look at some of the Trip Reports in the top Pinned Section:

OK, Juri is a handsome man, superbly fit, and in his early 40€™s and he pulls the most amazing array of talent.

I am not handsome man, I am unfit, I have thinning hair, a paunch and I passed my 76th birthday in October and yet I do pretty well.

The secret is not primarily money (albeit money is important to them), the real key to €œsuccess€ is to treat all LBs and GGs with respect.

Yes, cleanliness in clothing, body and breath is a factor, a sense of humour and a pleasant demeanour is a factor (that works both ways) but most of all treat the person you are with, with the greatest of respect.

Whilst ensuring a girl does not lose face, you can also be a butterfly €“ or move onto higher grades of flying machines €“ within the same bar and still remain friends with girls you had years ago.

For example I have drinks and chat with girls at the Guess Bar that I last went to bed with in 2006  and, yes, I have repeated sessions with some in 2007-2009, but I€™ve also been with the new talent and there have been no €œcat-fights€ or €œsulking€ , and when I turn up on my next trip, all will be friendly towards me €“ not because I€™m a harmless old duffer, but because they know I treat each and everyone with great respect, some humour and I am unfailing courteous and polite to each and everyone of them.

As for 3somes, follow the advice above, and if you read the Trip Reports you will find examples, with photos of LBs who with whom the experience will be enjoyable.

Finally, remember, age is a number €“ a state of mind €“ sure, their preference may be Zac  Ephron, Brad Pitt or even an old guy like George Clooney €“ but those  super-stars are unlikely to visit Nana Plaza so they will, happily, settle for you and for a really old guy like me.

And I know for certain that, if I survive another ten years and can walk, talk, smile and still get it up when I am 86 years old, then  no-one in Nana Plaza or on Walking Street is going to say no to me because of my age.

[TTChang]

(thegame925 @ Dec. 11 2009,15:15) Whilst ensuring a girl does not lose face, you can also be a butterfly €“ or move onto higher grades of flying machines €“ within the same bar and still remain friends with girls you had years ago.

I get away with it in the same week at Obsessions .... but it's damn costly in lady drinks!     'Higher grades of flying machines' ...  like it  

not because I€™m a harmless old duffer,

Works for me  

[mardhi]

(Steff @ Dec. 11 2009,03:09) From what I have been reading on the forum it appears to be difficult to score 2 LBs who are willing you get into a serious 3some session. If this is not the case do any of you fine gents know of any willing participants and where to find them? If it is true, would a LB be more into doing a 3some with a GG instead?

Moo from Guess Bar would be the obvious one who springs to mind as not only agreeing to do it - but would likely help choose both another LB and GG that she takes a fancy too. ironically, with this girl - it wont be a make believe show for money - if you let her choose - she will be the one enjoying it probably as much as you.........dont forget to ask her about her son !!!!!

I could just imagine Moo doing the tour around GG girls looking to find some girl she fancies - the most interesting part will be finding a willing GG victim, oops err partner....

This is Moo

[Steff]

Thanks to everyone and in particular "thegame925". You are a deep well of inspiration, raised the bar and have given all of us something to aspire towards. Much thanks guys. If any of you are around Bangkok the first week of February I would be happy to buy you a beer. Let me know.
Kind regards
Steff

[Steff]

Mardhi, Wow!!! What a doll!!! Thanks, Moo is terrific, truly something special. Does she work at Guess regularly? I will be there the first week in February and will try to find her and ask if she can help accommodate the 3some (her + GG). May I ask what you think I will need to pay for her services?

[Juri]

...in my own experience i can yust say.....forget the age, we all are just old for them......!!!
spoken form a well know'n ladyboy about that.......is someone younger than 22.....yeah, than he is young and maybe they care, but wait for this guy make they die hungry in less a week.....so all over that is old for they ( what you think before about the age of others when you 18 - 24 yrs. )... and thats why they care much more the points written by Bicycle Pump....

[Steff]

To "thegame925":
I received your PM but because I am new to this forum I did not know how to reply. The answer is YES. I would very much like to receive the numbers of your lady friends if you do not mind. I look forward to making their acquaintance and am grateful for your help. I wish you an exciting and enjoyable trip over the holidays. Take care.

[anicon]

... my advice for a 1st timer in BKK would be..

1.. keep your valuables/cash locked up or well hidden when any LB is in your room!  (even well hidden may not work, it didn't in my case!)

2.. don't pickup any freelance LB in BKK, your odds of being ripped off go up expotentionally!    .. read #1 again, I'm speaking from experience on this one..    

3.. make sure you ask how much or make your offer before the fun starts so there's no arguments or trouble later.. it's no fun to get hotel management or worse having the police show up to resolve it..

..another reason to take pics of any girl in your room, even if its with their clothes on or outside; if something bad happens you have a pic to warn others with; something else I neglected to do with the one that ripped me off..ummm, make that the 1st one, the police were the 2nd I think who ended up with the cash!     

.. most of my experiences with LBs' & GGs' in BKK have been ok, I had no problems with the GGs', 1 major one with a LB that ended up costing me more time & money than it was worth trying to get it back even after the police were involved (big mistake, they can rip you off too!) .. one bad experience can ruin your whole trip so just use common sense & you'll have a good time.  

[jimslim]

And don't forget number 4 - try to enjoy yourself

[cancer12]

in shampoo...
sometimes age and looks do matter... hehehe though defintely not for bar fines but for sneak outs!
hehehehe or sometimes just free holding and kissing.. we the guy is really good looking... the girls are all running after him... and do the flirting, kissing, touching, even without any assurance of a lady's drinks.. or bar fine..

[rusty nail]

You're drunk, but we get the point...

[benjy]

remember no.4 + advice given to me by a stunning lb in pattaya circa 1984 as I was contemplating,..."you sink(think)too mutt"