Date with a non working ladyboy?

[KingofNANA]

Not sure about the dateinasia.com and dragoncastle.net route. Just checked out the Bali/Jakarta offerings and every single lb advertising is a well known P4P streetwalker.

Not saying that this is across the board in S.E. Asia, but the odds seem more than likely.

[pepsi]

thanks again. those are pretty good dating sites but maybe internet dating with a streetwalker ain't quite what one was hoping for. maybe i go grab them on the streets then

[FB-lover!]

(pacman @ Dec. 07 2009,21:52) But for a new guy arriving in LOS, the best you can hope for is a sponsorship arrangement. This allows you to believe you have a girlfriend which she will encourage while you send regular money.

I always expected that would be true - and I know that you are speaking sense for all practical concerns.  99.999% of the time, it could only be for more money, or they will move on before you know what's happened.

But strangely, I've had such a cute lb gf for 3-4 weeks now - seriously, she will NOT accept my money, and if I tried to pay her, she lets me know it would be an insult to her of the highest order.  I keep waiting for the windup in the situation, but she really just seems intent on being with me and loving me up at all hours. ps - she's a bargirl, and I try not to enquire too much about some things. It's not non-stop porno at my house or something - but she's definitely a kissing and snuggling maching, with her sights on me.

I can't figure it out exactly, but you know...it if it's nice and all.  I'm sure there are things to worry about, but they escape me at this moment  

[FB-lover!]

(pepsi @ Dec. 08 2009,17:58) I am visiting Thailand for 2-3 weeks on jan/feb and there is a chance I'm coming later for a 2 month business trip to Bangkok. Something should happen in that time.

I have to admit that this probably wouldn't have happened in the first couple weeks - or didn't, at least for me. Too much culture shock to absorb in a short time, and who wants a girlfriend right when they arrive, anyway (a LOT of cute lb's in Bangkok, no question)..but over a couple months later on, totally possible.

[pacman]

(FB-lover! @ Dec. 15 2009,14:36) I can't figure it out exactly, but you know...it if it's nice and all.  I'm sure there are things to worry about, but they escape me at this moment  

This behaviour is not so unusual, especially if you think about it.

These girls are worldly wise beyond their years. They spend hours talking about ways to score a kind hearted boyfriend.

There are those who look for an older guy who they can dazzle with their beauty & there are those who want to spoil their man so he feels obliged to respond in kind. And those who hope to win a heart using both.

Without wishing to cast aspersions on her motives, your friend may just be trying an extreme example of this tactic.

I know that makes me sound very cynical but ask yourself this - if your relationship continues, can you honestly imagine she would stay so generous?

I remind you that we are judged from the moment they lay eyes on us. A neat looking, sober guy who appears to be a "regular fella" is seen by many as boyfriend material. Age, height, weight, etc are considered details that the girls often can't be too fussy about.

If FB-lover was polite & considerate he would be a good man to woo & that may just explain your girl's very loving manner.

On the other hand, if FB-lover is young & handsome, or even just fit & kind, she may really have fallen hard & isn't going to let him leave the country without ensuring he knows how she feels.

Lap it up mate, live in the moment & remember most relationships never get much better. But by doing so, remember also the piper must be paid.

[FB-lover!]

I think that is totally sober and experienced advice from PacMan, actually.

There are definitely small moments and images that don't altogether add up, and of course I remember that she is a young girl in whatever form and will be working things all around. And you're right, she's definitely not a vapid creature, but does like to pretend to be - she found a guy with a soft heart and latched herself to him very expertly

Some rare moments when she's not around, I stop and feel overwhelmed a bit - going from guy fantasizing about a reasonably cute ladyboy someday, to suddenly having a young hottie wanting to be around you 24/7 with her eyes against yours, saying 'love you love you love you!' - it's overwhelming for a newbie, to be sure.

Texts coming in, gotta go

[Guest]

If you cant trust yourself trust no one

[pacman]

FB-lover, we both know that what is happening is not normal.

I would recommend you enjoy the ride. And if she is really lovely, see where the ride takes you.

At least you won't turn around after it runs its natural course & act surprised.

Relationships in Asia can be a created fantasy but we are all susceptible to falling under the spell of these exotic creatures.

Keep your wits about you but don't shut out the nice parts - this is a memory that will stay with you for the rest of your life...

[Guest]

[thehawk]

(FB-lover! @ Dec. 15 2009,18:12) Some rare moments when she's not around, I stop and feel overwhelmed a bit - going from guy fantasizing about a reasonably cute ladyboy someday, to suddenly having a young hottie wanting to be around you 24/7 with her eyes against yours, saying 'love you love you love you!' - it's overwhelming for a newbie, to be sure.

And for me it doesn't get any better as I get more experienced and older.

The girls just seem to get hotter and hotter, and as much experience and common sense that I have, when you are staring into their eyes and holding their perfect bodies, I am still putty in their hands.

[guydesavoy]

I think pacman has a good take on this...

thegame also...

and his and daveduke's experience(s) show that anything is possible (if, albeit, momentarily).

I guess the real question for the Op is how this all translates into a long term relationship scenario...

The consensus appears to be that not much is long term in LOS and LBs... (rare exceptions...).


So as pacman says : enjoy the ride and the moment but only bet as much as you are truly prepared to lose  

[Guest]

I think as a non Thai speaker, it will not work just walking up to a gorgeous LB in MBK and chat her up. It may work but it probably will backfire.

I know that LBs actually have their own sisterhoods and often go around in groups. Many are university students and these might speak some English. I just wonder whether there are ways to reach out to these groups.

[guydesavoy]

It will work. Trust me. In these situations, language is no barrier.

[deepthroat]

(pacman @ Dec. 15 2009,20:51) FB-lover, we both know that what is happening is not normal.

I would recommend you enjoy the ride. And if she is really lovely, see where the ride takes you.

At least you won't turn around after it runs its natural course & act surprised.

Relationships in Asia can be a created fantasy but we are all susceptible to falling under the spell of these exotic creatures.

Keep your wits about you but don't shut out the nice parts - this is a memory that will stay with you for the rest of your life...

Great comments as always Oh Knowledgable One... where you been? Haven't seen you in the threads lately.

[pacman]

      Have you missed me mate?      

I haven't been anywhere, I just see no mileage in posting when one's reputation can be shredded in a flash by people with personal issues.

I post on my own volition & I expect nothing in return. If I get criticised or blasted... fine....  but why would anyone stay here to put up with shit?

I am grateful to the moderators for removing the insult. I feel too wedded to the place never to post again but I need to gather my enthusiasm.

In the meantime, my thanks to F0xxee for his encouragement, to Sev7en for explaining the virtues of being a lurker & to Deepthroat for his prodding.