My relationship with Natalie is over!

[saddlemaker]

Look at it like selling the best old car you ever had, you`ll miss it when its gone, but you gotta love that new car smell

[robbo]

as BIGMICK said...........any cockpics? im not here for doing sympathy.......just show us the cock

[bigmick22]

let's sign a petition

[cotton]

I only tell my story to normal man who knew the lb situationin 2004-05.
New members did not understand who Natalie was.
Today i have to sleap alone.
I loved sleap with Nathalies head on my shoulder and our hands together.
That was more importent than sex. i realy miss her. soon i go thailand again. But deep in my heart i only think meet her again, but i know there are so many normal(not superstar from 2005) waiting for me. But i miss Natalie so much.........

[f0xxee]

(bigmick22 @ Nov. 01 2009,07:14) let's sign a petition

Hey Mick,

You still in LOS?

You seem to have lost some sensitivity since the golden days of your relationship with Cindy...

When I divorced my wife (or she divorced me) I was offshore and had a dickhead ask me if I had any photos of her I wished to share.

I shared a 12 inch shifter around his temple.

A little empathy please.

Hugs,

Foxy.

[lblavr]

believe the the story with the new car,a few posts earlier
I was in love with a ladyboy for 4 years and when not together we talked together on the phone for at least 3 hours a day.
nevertheless she kept on seeing other guys
today she is gone and I realize I can be happy with other ladyboys

[sev7en]

(cotton @ Nov. 01 2009,07:17) Today i have to sleap alone.
I loved sleap with Nathalies head on my shoulder and our hands together.
That was more importent than sex.  i realy miss her.  

Please stop now, cotton! Please!

[Chinaman]

(cotton @ Oct. 31 2009,22:57) i think in every relationship in all country there the man are rich and woman beaytyful the man will wonder if she realy love him...

Well, that could very well be but very often those men give a damn about love, all they want is some barbie or whatever doll at their side for some time.

I know that I am running the risk of being attacked for what I am going to say but I do not think that N ever "loved" you in our Western way. Most Asian cultures seem to be very practical, women love those who provide for them.

For her this relationship might have been somewhere between loving you and using you (for bettering her lifestyle, for traveling, for gift, for all these things she most probably would have never experienced even as a BKK- or Pattaya-superstar).

I realize you are hurting now, but give it some time and then turn the coin over - is this really what you want in the long run or is this a chance to get out before more damage occurs. Without knowing your relationship in detail of course but speculating from certain key clues, I assume that she would always be able to twist your arm for whatever she really wants. Sorry, but 9 mio Baht which is almost 200,000 Euro seems insane to spend on a relationship which in these instances always comes with a deadline. You basically paid for her LOOOOOOOONGTIME and I would even speculate that she got bored being hired that way.

We are living in the 21st century and although there might be exceptions, any longtime relationship with only one partner working and providing (unless kids are being raised) is more or less likely to fail.

N was your (expensive) hobby and you wrapped her in fur and silk for being your darling.

Even if you get back together, these things will never change - she will always be ready to leave you for whatever reason because all this stability and future means crap to her - only today counts - whether it is shopping or her mood that calls the shots.

If you are willing to spend another 9+ mio or even more, go ahead - but you might/will find yourself at the exact same point again next time.

Life has more to offer than one particular lb ...

Ok, crucify me now ...
Cheers
CM

[bigmick22]

(f0xxee @ Nov. 01 2009,01:49) Hey Mick,

You still in LOS?

You seem to have lost some sensitivity since the golden days of your relationship with Cindy...

When I divorced my wife (or she divorced me) I was offshore and had a dickhead ask me if I had any photos of her I wished to share.

I shared a 12 inch shifter around his temple.

A little empathy please.

Hugs,

Foxy.

He Foxee,

I am a little bit cheeky today. As I said before, I think I might be turning into a better-looking version of sev7en

I'm just back in the Emerald Isle - arrived back on Thursday. So far, so good

Hope all is well with you and the Mrs

BM

[Chinaman]

I know that this is perhaps an unusual way of looking at it, but 9 Million Baht and 4.5 years which is roughly 1,600 days comes down to 5,625 Baht per day. As I assumed - an excellent long time rate for her ...

[f0xxee]

(bigmick22 @ Nov. 01 2009,08:34)

(f0xxee @ Nov. 01 2009,01:49) Hey Mick,

You still in LOS?

You seem to have lost some sensitivity since the golden days of your relationship with Cindy...

When I divorced my wife (or she divorced me) I was offshore and had a dickhead ask me if I had any photos of her I wished to share.

I shared a 12 inch shifter around his temple.

A little empathy please.

Hugs,

Foxy.

He Foxee,

I am a little bit cheeky today. As I said before, I think I might be turning into a better-looking version of sev7en

I'm just back in the Emerald Isle - arrived back on Thursday. So far, so good

Hope all is well with you and the Mrs

BM

Hi Mick,

You are a bit cheeky... But you wouldn't be BigMick (and Narto's pin-up) if you weren't.

So how was it all? I would really be interested to hear a summation of the ups and downs of your trip, because for my money you have pretty much in the last few months seen a lifetimes worth of what this forum is on about: The highs and lows, sponsoring, the good the bad and the ugly.

Sum it all up for us wise-one!

I hope you do: I for one would like to hear your thoughts.

Welcome home, I hope you got a happy heart.

Cheers,

JF

[bigmick22]

I'll get round to it eventually

to summarise briefly: I had a bloody great time

P.s. I have never sponsored a LB. I only pay for the time I spend with them

[f0xxee]

(Chinaman @ Nov. 01 2009,08:24) Well, that could very well be but very often those men give a damn about love, all they want is some barbie or whatever doll at their side for some time.

I know that I am running the risk of being attacked for what I am going to say but I do not think that N ever "loved" you in our Western way. Most Asian cultures seem to be very practical, women love those who provide for them.

Hi CM,

No I reckon you got a lot of valid points and have made them well.

A couple of things I would like to ad:

Your point about the "Trophy Bride" or human handbag is well made. How many men ditch the first wife who has loved and supported them during the creation of their wealth for the sexy secretary?
Happens all the time....
No commonality between the husband and barbie-wife besides the fact she likes his wallet and he like to appear virile. So what's the attraction?

Perhaps there is more to the story of the Asian wife looking for a bread-winner....

First let me state that what follows is what I remember from a book that I read several times and which brough a lot of peace to my life in as much as it examined the emotional differences betwen genders as being genetically inherent, and explained why am I NOT the only man who doesn't understand women... Basically none of us do or ever will.

The book is "Human Instinct" by Robert Winston.

Any errors that follow (I'm writing from memory) are mine not his!

He states that women are genetically predisposed to search for a mate that can provide for her and is stable: that is who will stick around untill the brood no longer needs protection or feeding. He states that this is true of women be they African and nomadic or American and professionally emloyed. He also states that women will ocassionally mate (but not marry) with a male of the species for no other reason that he seems to have stong genetic characteristics, such as leadership, strenth of will etc. Its why Monica wants to blow Bill, and why the crippled FDR was a cocksman. (and why you should NEVER vote for a man who doesn't spread his seed around: there is good reason why so many African Americans have the last name of Jefferson.)

Men are predisposed to polygamy. However we do bond with a partner due to social mores and an inate ability to be suckered by the emotional blackmail of the female of the species. However, once the children have fled the nest there is little reason to stick around when our genetics are telling us Sexy-Barbie is fecund: ripe for riding and impregnating. hence the trophy wife.

Basically as men we are attractive due to the amount of cows we own, so when you are told by Ms Issan you are hansum man she in not really lying... not to her way of thinking anyhow.

To me the difference between western and eastern women is not what motivates them: they all are genetically programmed to want a secure breadwinner who will hang fat until the kiddies move on. The difference is the expression of that motivation: Western women think or are bought up to believe that it is bad form to marry for money... or they do now. Was that the case 100-200 years ago? No it was not. Marrying well meant marrying someone who was able to support you: given the lack of public hospitals, health care and education a woman would have been a bloody fool to marry downward.

But now it is seen as bad form to marry for money. But has it really changed? Do fairytales like "Notting Hill" really happen? In a pigs arse they do.
Nothing has changed: women want security even the most hard core fembot professional...

Asian ladies just dont see the bad form in marrying for money.

So are they any worse?

End of rave.

[Chinaman]

(f0xxee @ Nov. 01 2009,09:38) Asian ladies just dont see the bad form in marrying for money.
So are they any worse?

I definitely would not consider them worse but I assume this fact of marrying for money becomes more obvious as very often Western men marry Asian women who are from a very different social class, meaning that they have not only less money but also less education, fewer interest (cultural, etc.) and often come with dependents. What they bring to the table is often youth and looks.

However with a lb and more so with a former P4P lb, all this adds a completely new layer - providing for them turns into spoiling them rotten, until they get even bored with that and then rock the boat in some way which ends in break-up.

I assume the degree of materialistic things needed increases out of scale when dating a poor 7-11 girl you meet in a non P4P city, a bar girl from Pattaya and a lb-superstar.

While the first one and perhaps also the second one might be happy to live off your monthly allowance in some Isaan province town with their basic needs covered, number 3 needs a stage to perform and will try to shift the contents of your bank account to hers while life is still all glamour and fun for her.

[f0xxee]

(Chinaman @ Nov. 01 2009,12:21)

(f0xxee @ Nov. 01 2009,09:38) Asian ladies just dont see the bad form in marrying for money.
So are they any worse?

I definitely would not consider them worse but I assume this fact of marrying for money becomes more obvious as very often Western men marry Asian women who are from a very different social class, meaning that they have not only less money but also less education, fewer interest (cultural, etc.) and often come with dependents. What they bring to the table is often youth and looks.

Hi Chinaman,

You are not are you? Chinese? Apparently not.

I always love it when someone tells me an Asian brings less to the table culturally, especially if they are European which means a dogs breakfast of heritage.

Cheers......