Bar girls are Prostitutes...

[Lefty]

(sev7en @ Jun. 04 2009,13:52)

(Lefty @ Jun. 05 2009,00:15) After 6 months, his BP and cholesterol were normal and he lost much of the extra weight.
Go to Thailand, eat like a typical Thai = get healthy.

Not sure i agree with this. Every trip i lose weight and power and really need to get back home for some real food to get my power back. I get weak and a bad stomach in Los.
And kahuna told me what the real thais eat up in Timbuk 2 , Issan, and that is not healty at all.

Maybe its good for overweight ppl to live in Los.

While you are there, just buy some Deca and perhaps take a 200 mg injection twice a week. That'll help keep your energy levels up for a few weeks.
Before he got into starting EAS and getting filthy rich, Bill Phillips wrote a book called The Anabolic Reference Guide. His extensive research on the subject of Deca Durabolin usage led him to write and believe that men could do one 200 mg/week injection of Deca indefinitely and help themselves gain strength, eliminate joint pain and improve the feeling of general overall well being. At this level, the only real drawback to Deca is it stays in your system for a year, which isn't good if you were an athlete subject to testing. If you are just doing it for yourself, the testing positive for Deca isn't a concern.
Since Deca is totally legal there, if you don't like poking yourself, just take the bottle to a clinic, and ask them to do it for you.

[shrimpsoup]

(bangkoksins @ Apr. 10 2009,10:15) If you have not read Stephen Leather's book Private Dancer then you should as there is no clearer way of describing or explaining the Thai girlie/lb/guy - bar scene.

All women working in bars where their bodies are for sale are prostitutes.

I don't think you really needed Mr. Leathers opinion  to come to that conclusion  ...most of us figured this out a long time ago.  

[robbo]

my illusions are now shattered all those nice girlies i met you mean they all lied to me when they said they loved me

[Lefty]

(shrimpsoup @ Jun. 04 2009,23:36)

(bangkoksins @ Apr. 10 2009,10:15) If you have not read Stephen Leather's book Private Dancer then you should as there is no clearer way of describing or explaining the Thai girlie/lb/guy - bar scene.

All women working in bars where their bodies are for sale are prostitutes.

I don't think you really needed Mr. Leathers opinion to come to that conclusion ...most of us figured this out a long time ago.

This entire original premise of the OP, that "Bar girls are prostitutes", is said like it is some kind of grand revelation.
It is like to me, so...what is the point? Are some here so naive that they do not understand when money is exchanged for sex, in the strictest sense, that is the definition of the word prostitute? I really doubt it.

I think one question would be for me, does that mean anyone thinks prostitutes are born not made? The result of nature, not environment? Once having worked as a bar girl/hooker/prostitute, do some of you think that person's ticket has been punched for life and they gone down a path of no return? Is it such a great, fabulous lifestyle that given the choice of a regular bf/gf relationship that none of them would take it? Of course I've read some here state, sure there are some who would take a relationship with an older, perhaps not that handsome, perhaps overweight to some degree, falang, but it would still be largely about money. Well, excuse me if a bar girl should want some degree of financial security in a LTR. I mean that would make them totally different from western women wouldn't it? No western woman cares if a man has any money, a good job, a house or fancy car do they? They just love the man even if he is a worthless bum. Geewhiz, why can't the Thai girls/lbs be like that?

If you take a western woman out of a date, wine her and dine her, buy some flowers, and you end up getting some pussy at the end of the night, money also changed hands, where if it had not, there would probably have been no sex. So, that would be prostitution in a sense too, even if one wishes to turn a blind eye to it.

[pacman]

      I agree totally Lefty...

The entire concept of marrying for love is being corrupted by the need for financial security coming before passions of the heart.

The 20th century may well be remembered as the glory days for true love, when it was not just possible but likely that couples here in the West married for the purest of reasons.

Everywhere you look today, girls are demanding security to be provided by their intended partner. It is still a long way off before the females of the West are as hard nosed about it as their counterparts in the 3rd world but it is coming.

The last big global recession of 90/91 saw literally thousands of divorces when it became clear that the lifestyle the trophy wives had chased was over.

This time with the current global financial crisis, many are staying together because the money they expected to receive from a divorce has gone up in smoke with the fall in the equities market.

Which ever way the cards fall during the next few years, the heightened focus on job insecurity, on the sudden loss of wealth, it will only help make young girls more keen to snare a prize catch.

You may put me down as a prize cynic but when I see the scions of our wealthiest families attracting the finest talent in the country with nothing more than their family name working for them, I know that the days of being poor but lovable are not cutting it any more.

And haven't for a long time....        

[Stogie]

(pacman @ Jun. 05 2009,16:44) The entire concept of marrying for love is being corrupted by the need for financial security coming before passions of the heart...

This has always been the case except in Mills & Boon books!

Men fall in love and one of the reasons is that they can protect and take care of a person.

Women fall in love so they can be protected... and take care of a person.

You cannot divorce the reasons people fall in love with some wishy washy romantic notion that 'love will conquer all!' It won't it, never has and was never really supposed to except in Hollywood!

Women (and ladyboys) cannot realistically be expected to fall in love with a 'nice guy' based on that one simple fact alone.

There are a million reasons people fall in love and a combination of the best reasons determine how long the relationship will last.

If you don't offer security then you are failing as a man so you don't deserve to be loved. It's part of the package of love.

If you think that when circumstances change then your love will stay the same then you are way off course and headed for a crash!

Also - don't forget that someone may fall for you for reasons outside your control. It may be simply a matter of good... ... (pause) ... timing!

[sev7en]

(pacman @ Jun. 05 2009,09:30) Especially if they suffer from leaky gut syndrome!!

That allows parasites to pass from the bowel into the blood stream & will cause weight loss, loss of strength & stamina & left unchecked, can kill you.

I should know - just such a thing made me very sick for 18 months. I lost so much weight, everyone thought I had cancer.

This is exactly what i got on my longstays in Los. Came back home, tested stool, found some parasite i forgot the name of, needed antibiotics. Had the runs for 2 weeks and lost 8 lbs.
I don´t know what to eat in Los.
I didn´t know this parasite was common.

Thanks, paccie and Lefty.

[seamus]

I eat Indonesian, Malaysian or Thai 5 nights out of 7 most weeks.
I cook it all My self, so no take away shite & I have to say I feel much better for it, with no fat gut either
I find western food very bland these days !

[pacman]

(sev7en @ Jun. 05 2009,19:06) This is exactly what i got on my longstays in Los. Came back home, tested stool, found some parasite i forgot the name of, needed antibiotics. Had the runs for 2 weeks and lost 8 lbs.
I don´t know what to eat in Los.
I didn´t know this parasite was common.

When I was diagnosed it was made very clear to me that antibiotics were of no use at all in the treatment of the parasitic infection I had.

This makes me curious about 2 things - 1) exactly what did they subscribe?

and 2) I suspect you would still have parasites given the difficulty in killing them off.

You had diarrhea for 2 weeks & lost 8lbs? Try 12 months & 25 kilos (55lbs). All told it took me 18 months to recover in which time I never ate anything with sugar, fat, oil of any description as they are all foods that the parasites feed on.

Plus I never had any tea, coffee, alcohol, soft drink, sweets, dessert, sauces, gravy, salad dressing, nothing.

Eventually they were starved out but it was a race who went first - them or me.

I was told that one relapse in my diet would take me back to square one. The good thing about my recovery was that I felt I had been reborn, that every part of my body had undergone the greatest detox imaginable.

As to the question as to what to eat, take care where you eat is the best advice I can give. I am not convinced that I caught mine from food. The doctor was particularly interested in any sexual partners & had me tested for HIV 3 times.

And common? Everyone living in Asia carries a range of parasites, they can't be avoided, it is the parasites ability to eat through the walls of the intestine (leaky gut syndrome) whereby they can cross over into the blood stream that makes them so dangerous.

Maybe this subject deserves a thread of its own if any others have a similar story to share. I damn well hope there is a better treatment available now than what I had to endure.

[harley quinn]

Before we get too carried away condemming the standards of Asian food, my own experience of food borne illness stemmed from a roadside snack wagon just outside of Brighton. Normally I would never patronise these places but hunger and a tight schedule led me astray and I ended up in agony while fearing to leave the bathroom.

The Doc thought I had picked up one of the more virulent strains of malaria while abroad and I had a very frightening 48 hours waiting for tests to come back, fortunately diagnosing a nasty but non fatal bug.

My point is that the cause of my illness was my stupidity in going there in the first place - and I reckon its the same wherever you go - eat off some shitty stall with no proper washing facilities and you suffer. Most Asian countries offer reasonable food at well run establishments its a case of buyer watch out!

but only slightly. Some years ago in Cambodia I wandered over to see what was cooking at a roadside stall the guy was deep frying tarantulas (well big hairy spiders anyway) dropping them live in the hot oil. Nobody believed me when I got home until the same thing was shown on one of those celebrity trip round the world programmes. It still makes me cringe

[sev7en]

paccie,
i was given this: http://www.rxlist.com/flagyl-drug.htm ,

Flagyl (metronidazol). I got alot better after 3-4 days with this. They found a parasite called giardia lamblia. I was dehydrated , tired and weak. Doctor didn´t give me any diet tips, but rice and white toast was on my menu for 2-3 weeks.

I caught the same back in Phuket, early 2008, went to Bumrungrad where they found inflammation in small intestine as well as some parasite i can´t remember the name of , might have been the same. Don´t recall which antibiotics they gave me then, but it got better eventually.


Not sure exactly about the weight loss, but first time i lost even more, maybe 12 lbs/ 6 kgs in 2 months.

What parasite did you have? Antibiotics didn´t help? What can you do to prevent this? My doc back home said this was common in asia but rare in europe( cept Russia).

[pacman]

    Back when I was sick in the mid 90's they couldn't identify the parasite involved. They thought it was some variety of malaria but then they only treated about 20 varieties of malaria. There are over 100,000 varieties of malaria that they knew of THEN.

Later I went to a Naturopath to get some nutrional support as I was hungry & weak. She took blood & spread it on glass slides & sent them off to a scientist who was an expert on parasitic infections. This guy had just returned from 20 years of research in Africa where he had been studying all manner of parasites.

The report came back after a few weeks - he had never seen anything like the parasites I had & he was most interested to know where I had picked them up.

And the place? Why, the same as you - Phuket!!

As for preventing it, there isn't any more you can do than choose where you eat & hope for the best. I also carry with me Okoubasan in homeopathic form, the same stuff that they prescribe to people who are going to deepest Africa.

At the first sign of illness I am to take this but so far I haven't needed to. I hope it works.

[baroncarlton]

(harley quinn @ Jun. 05 2009,21:24) but only slightly. Some years ago in Cambodia I wandered over to see what was cooking at a roadside stall the guy was deep frying tarantulas (well big hairy spiders anyway) dropping them live in the hot oil. Nobody believed me when I got home until the same thing was shown on one of those celebrity trip round the world programmes. It still makes me cringe

Those Spiders are actually quite tasty. I ate two of them, they taste slightly like Bacon.

[Lefty]

(pacman @ Jun. 05 2009,08:14) As for preventing it, there isn't any more you can do than choose where you eat & hope for the best. I also carry with me Okoubasan in homeopathic form, the same stuff that they prescribe to people who are going to deepest Africa.

At the first sign of illness I am to take this but so far I haven't needed to. I hope it works.

Can we buy that stuff in Thailand? It would be better for anyone to be safe than sorry.
I googled it, and none of the web sites on the first couple of pages appear to offer a homeopathic version for sale from the USA.

[sev7en]

(pacman @ Jun. 05 2009,22:14) She took blood


And the place? Why, the same as you - Phuket!!

What are the symptoms that it´s in your bloodstream? Bloodtest will show?In Phuket i got dizzy from low bloodpressure, which i´ve never had before in my life.



Funny about Phuket, many seem to get sick there, and not in Bkk or Patts.