Convergence of tastes ....

[bigmick22]

(bumblebee @ Jan. 30 2008,13:17) I find also one of the main attractions of the femboys is the firmness, u know you are never going to encounter that paper/tiger/acid call it what u like belly that is the curse of Asian women who have had a kid or 2.

I remember that night we spent squeezing Aemmy's thighs! Talk about rock hard

Cindy's are quite hard too - and her stomach is amazing!!!

[bigmick22]

(aperry @ Jan. 30 2008,06:30) Cindy rocks my world also!!   Better than #1..in a class by herself!!  

to all those that don't agree with aperry and Stogie's sentiments ...

[bigmick22]

(rxpharm @ Jan. 30 2008,15:29) Did a poll about this last year:From lbs to femboys

12% voted that started preferring passable lbs, now love femboys only
55.7% voted they prefer mixed bag, some passable lbs, some femboys.

Interesting results that seem to show preferences may change over time.

As for me - postops and passable lbs like Vee and Banana so far.  Who knows about the future!  

most people seem to have picked up on the "change in LB taste" part of my post - but that was more of a backdrop as I know it's been covered before (e.g. the link you included). What I really wanted to know is whether other people have noticed their taste in GGs changing to match their taste in LBs

I guess my question was a bit unclear. Still, some interesting replies

[bigmick22]

(PigDogg @ Jan. 30 2008,06:50) Androgeny is a turn on.  

good call - it might be androgeny that attracts me

I also noticed on my last trip that I tended to check out gay/androgenous Thai men (they seem to be the target of Starbucks Thai hiring policy) and wondering if they might make a sexy ladyboy

all sounds a bit However, I did walk by the gaybars in Soi 13/4 (I think) recently and it just made me shudder and want to get out of there asap!

[stogie bear]

I don't find the pudgy mindless and sexless girls working the bars very attractive at all. I might do if I had been in prison for a long time but even then I think my favourite wanks would outclass a bargirl.

In my (not expert) opinion, attraction to ladyboys is the 'next level' of sexuality that most intelligent men will migrate to given the chance.

There are a lot of factors that will decide which type of 'next level' appeals to you. Big fake tits and big cock or femboy or passable ladyboy or... everything in between.

I'm guessing that for a lot of us - our first times and fantasies are stoked by cartoonish sexual ideals - giant cock, voracious appetite and long wavy blond hair!

After that phase is over we probably start searching for realistic looking partners and these are more likely to be passable ladyboys, femboys or well proportioned ladyboys (on or off hormones.)

Of course it also depends on your primary motive for finding a ladyboy partner... At first it's most likely sex! After that it's probably love and then further down the line a long term relationship based on mutual agreement maybe the objective.

If ladyboys are primarily sexual targets for a long time then your favourite 'type' is unlikely to change to much. Your 'moods' my change but you'll have a set demographic that you hunt for.

If you are looking for a love partner then looks aren't quite so important and you'll either be more flexible with your demands or those demands you had for sexual partners will evolve to more realistic body shapes.

That's a pretty simplistic look at things as I see them and there is a multitude of other factors to take into account...

You may be predisposed to a certain type of girl. Most of us are.
That predisposition may change over time depending on your demands.moods, expectations, length of time on the prowl, energy level... etc.

You may have fallen for the wrong type of ladyboy from the start and only realised later that actually your favourite types are something else. A bit of experimentation usually fixes this.

You may be living under a Catholic gown of guilt! Which means that she has to be passable even if she nags you! Or you may go back to girls after a brief sojourn to 'the dark side!' The idea of touching a penis or being with a person who has one may be too much for you to reconcile yourself to.

You can deny and repress your sexuality forever! Just look at the 'machismo' societies... 'Homophobic' would be putting it lightly! These societies are scared to death of people who challenge what constitutes the 'Victorian arrangement!' The USA and the whole of Latin America are good examples. So, too, are Italy and a lot of Europe, including the UK...

For most of us who 'cross the river' what we leave behind on the other side becomes something of a distant memory over time and experience. I'd like to shag a girl again one day but I know it's gonna be a shit experience after nailing Cindy!

GGs simply can't compete and they won't ever provide me with the sexual release that I need.

I'm still learning and I've got plenty of shagging left to do, but the idea of me wasting my time wriggling on a girl seems more and more remote as time goes by!

[jet712]

(stogie bear @ Jan. 31 2008,02:54) You may be living under a Catholic gown of guilt! Which means that she has to be passable even if she nags you! Or you may go back to girls after a brief sojourn to 'the dark side!' The idea of touching a penis or being with a person who has one may be too much for you to reconcile yourself to.

Wow, what a great thread.

I guess I have to admit experiencing some element of "catholic guilt" along the way .

I have no problem with the penis or any of the physical aspects of  being with a ladyboy...it's just that I've never felt comfortable having anything other than a sexual relationship with them....not sure if that's because, on some subconcious level, a part of me thinks it's wrong or whether I'm just worried about people finding out my little secret.

As for the original question, I find there's a difference between what I look for on websites and what I do when I get to LOS.

On the web, I find myself focusing more and more on the young flat chested types...I particularly like it when there's a hint of boyishness but it's not too obvious...a big turn off for me is if there's something in her appearance that reminds me of any bloke I might know back home....that's just horrendous !

On the other hand, when I make it out to LOS I could end up with anything from an Amazonian girl out of Guess Bar or Casanova to a very feminine minx out of Cascades or Obsession...it all depends on the time and place.

[jimslim]

I like my LBs small and cute and as natural as possible , femboy /ladyboy both are fine , the only turn off is over the top make up - the Thai ghost face .
But then again once in a while Ive gone for the amazon types if the mood takes me and two of my best sexual experiences were Rose and Pond in Pattaya who were both quite tall and stereotypical ladyboys .
So I suppose overall my tastes havent really changed much .
I think the point about Thai women is interesting , for me most LBs have an individual look , yet a lot of Thai women (esp bargirls ) look the same , same size , dress the same etc etc .
In Thai women Im turned on by a different look , cute with short hair , one with oversized tits , and probably the same as Big Mick those who have the, "they might be ladyboys look "

On my first trip to LOS I had one LB experience the rest were all GGs .
Four trips on it was 50/50 , before moving to 100% LB the last 3 trips .
Now I reckon it would take a pretty special looking GG to get me to barfine her . But then again I had some of the best sex Ive had in years with a rather shapely bargirl with massive natural tits last year , so I supose sometimes its just what mood takes you .

Now that Im thinking so deep Ive finally worked it all out ......
I want about 80% of all the ladyboys in Thailand , and about 20% of the bargirls .

It aint easy , it really aint  

[Looker]

(bigmick22 @ Jan. 31 2008,02:36) What I really wanted to know is whether other people have noticed their taste in GGs changing to match their taste in LBs. I guess my question was a bit unclear.

No, it wasn't, but in this topic may be easy to get carried away and writing about all except the main part of the question.
As I also missed a bit the point and going through more carefully with what you asked I can't come up with anything scientific.
The elements that have always catched my attention in women are, as I said in my previous post, a sort of strong masculine features somehow toward androginy but still admiring dangerous firm curves.
Of course having experienced LBs the importance of these elements has risen with the years.
So, do I like now a sexy, gorgeous and tallish GG that looks like a LB that looks like a GG? I would say yes!
On other hand, my dichotomized little brain steers my sight also toward tiny cute-faced boyish look creatures
All above in any case applies to an almost purely sexual point. If we engage talking about out-of-bed relationship, then we have to throw in everything else a person has and not just a sexually arousing container. However, also in this area, hanging with LBs made me apprecaite a sort of directness when approaching several subjects rather than having to fly around the subject a few times before landing with the right answer like when talking with a GG.
For whatever reason I found it a bit easier to connect with a LB, provided basic understand of common language is there, than with most GG. It seems easier to cut the B/S and coming to the point...

[FB-lover!]

what you said

[eclipse]

Who knows..sex it's very much a mind thing, so when translated in to reality may be disappointing hence leading us to an endless search for the ultimate sex encounter

So profound. Sums up for me.

-eclipse

[statuesque]

(stogie bear @ Jan. 31 2008,02:54) In my (not expert) opinion, attraction to ladyboys is the 'next level' of sexuality that most intelligent men will migrate to given the chance.

You have a very good, uhm, point there, stogie. No pun intended    Kidding..  

I used to see this guy whos a doctor in archaeology and hes an expert with evolution (having written a few academic textbooks about it). He said that the trend for physical features is going softer. And he agreed with me when I inexpertly concluded that transgenders then are clear indications of this evolution.

And before some of you would start thinking about it, when I said softer physical features, I didnt mean c*cks  


S

PS. Does that mean stogiebear youre an intelligent man because youre attracted to TGs?  

[Looker]

(statuesque @ Jan. 31 2008,15:50) He said that the trend for physical features is going softer.

Does that mean we'll end up looking like those aliens in the movies, with thin translucent flimsy bodies and just a big head on the top

[stogie bear]

(statuesque @ Jan. 31 2008,14:50) PS. Does that mean stogiebear youre an intelligent man because youre attracted to TGs?

In my experience of meeting people of all walks of life and various endeavors, it's my conclusion that people who are attracted to ladyboys are significantly more intelligent, successful and more worldly than those who are not.

You can read into that what you want to.

[statuesque]

 Aawww, I was just joking!   Hope youre not upset now    


S

[FB-lover!]

My best friend is a gg, asian...from Japan. Basically she's an elf'like creature, only way to describe her. Has zero tits, zero curves...but she has this 'other wordly' kind of androgeny and innocence about her.

I've seen men of all walks of life and personal taste become speechless silly at the sight of her, every day.

A curvey ass and big juggs get me, but I think there's something about the truly androgenous person that wins out every time...