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I wanted to book with Areca Lodge/Pattaya for my 2 weeks stay in October. Unfortunately I have cancelled this booking because the hotel (and Agoda) asks for the CCV card number.
No problem if it is via a secured web site, but no, they want it by fax. They want a copy of your passport (fair enough), and a photocopy of your credit card, front and back!
The form you have to fill must also contain in clear your CCV number. The photocopy of your card will have this CCV number along with all numbers associated to it.
I am afraid this is a very common practice with hotels in Thailand.
Of course, it will be printed. Of course, it will stay on top of a desk. And of course, do not expect hotels to destroy the documents or put them in a safe!!
You are also in Thailand, with little consideration for computing ethics, high level of hacking, pirating Pantip-style, etc€¦
It means that you are willingly giving away an important piece of information and in case of trouble (it is what my bank, HSBC, just told me€¦), insurance company, and most banks would tell you €œsorry sir, but you gave the information: it is under your responsibility€€¦
In the thread €œBAR SCENE: Information on Thailand's Bars & Babes! » PATTAYA ~ The Ladyboy Bars & Stars! » Hotels PATTAYA€ ( I wonder why this thread is not in "The THAILAND Travel Information Forum" ), there is a post from Stewart.
I am afraid he suffered from the €œsuper power€ we give to hotel managers ( https://theladyboyforums.com/cgi-bin....y163388 , post 133)
I asked Visa Europe what they think about it. Their reply is a bit general, but still gives good information:
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RE: giving away the CCV number, how risky is it? - Q9334608 Friday, July 31, 2009 10:13 AM
From: "Enquiries.Europe"
Thank you for contacting Visa Europe.
The card security code is the three-digit code printed on the back of Visa cards €“ either on, or directly to the right of, the signature panel. Visa€™s technical term for the card security code is Card Verification Code 2 (CVV2)
When the card security code is included in the transaction authorisation message; the card-issuing bank can check it. This indicates that the person making the transaction has access to the genuine card.
Many card fraudsters will either have gained illicit access to the card number or expiry date, or they will have used a random-card-number generator. Neither of these methods provides fraudsters with the card security code. (note from jprc2: except if you give it to them!...)
Indeed, if your card is lost or stolen, the CVV2 can get into the wrong hands. In this event, Visa ensures that your card is not subject to fraudulent activity by requiring you to report you card lost or stolen.
Your bank will then be in the position to block your card.
Visa Members remain committed to reducing fraud losses to the lowest possible level and as such fraud loss levels, together with the circumstances of loss, are monitored closely so as to ensure that appropriate actions can be taken to address payment card fraud.
Kind regards,
Customer Services Representative, Technology & Payment Services I Visa Europe I www.visaeurope.com <<http://www.visaeurope.com/>>
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What do you think? (without a 1 line style: €œwelcome to LOS€€¦)
Are you ready to take the risk?
Do you give away your CCV number without using a https secured web page?
What is your secret strategy for booking, paying the deposit, and still keeping your essential data away from predators?
No problem if it is via a secured web site, but no, they want it by fax. They want a copy of your passport (fair enough), and a photocopy of your credit card, front and back!
The form you have to fill must also contain in clear your CCV number. The photocopy of your card will have this CCV number along with all numbers associated to it.
I am afraid this is a very common practice with hotels in Thailand.
Of course, it will be printed. Of course, it will stay on top of a desk. And of course, do not expect hotels to destroy the documents or put them in a safe!!
You are also in Thailand, with little consideration for computing ethics, high level of hacking, pirating Pantip-style, etc€¦
It means that you are willingly giving away an important piece of information and in case of trouble (it is what my bank, HSBC, just told me€¦), insurance company, and most banks would tell you €œsorry sir, but you gave the information: it is under your responsibility€€¦
In the thread €œBAR SCENE: Information on Thailand's Bars & Babes! » PATTAYA ~ The Ladyboy Bars & Stars! » Hotels PATTAYA€ ( I wonder why this thread is not in "The THAILAND Travel Information Forum" ), there is a post from Stewart.
I am afraid he suffered from the €œsuper power€ we give to hotel managers ( https://theladyboyforums.com/cgi-bin....y163388 , post 133)
I asked Visa Europe what they think about it. Their reply is a bit general, but still gives good information:
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RE: giving away the CCV number, how risky is it? - Q9334608 Friday, July 31, 2009 10:13 AM
From: "Enquiries.Europe"
Thank you for contacting Visa Europe.
The card security code is the three-digit code printed on the back of Visa cards €“ either on, or directly to the right of, the signature panel. Visa€™s technical term for the card security code is Card Verification Code 2 (CVV2)
When the card security code is included in the transaction authorisation message; the card-issuing bank can check it. This indicates that the person making the transaction has access to the genuine card.
Many card fraudsters will either have gained illicit access to the card number or expiry date, or they will have used a random-card-number generator. Neither of these methods provides fraudsters with the card security code.
Indeed, if your card is lost or stolen, the CVV2 can get into the wrong hands. In this event, Visa ensures that your card is not subject to fraudulent activity by requiring you to report you card lost or stolen.
Your bank will then be in the position to block your card.
Visa Members remain committed to reducing fraud losses to the lowest possible level and as such fraud loss levels, together with the circumstances of loss, are monitored closely so as to ensure that appropriate actions can be taken to address payment card fraud.
Kind regards,
Customer Services Representative, Technology & Payment Services I Visa Europe I www.visaeurope.com <<http://www.visaeurope.com/>>
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What do you think? (without a 1 line style: €œwelcome to LOS€€¦)
Are you ready to take the risk?
Do you give away your CCV number without using a https secured web page?
What is your secret strategy for booking, paying the deposit, and still keeping your essential data away from predators?
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