I would advise against putting red wines like cabernet or shiraz into the ref. If a restaurant or bar wants to serve dry reds with good flavor, they should consider a wine room with cement walls, a dehumidifier and air con. I agree that 90 degrees with 90 percent humidity will kill any wine, red or white, but the opposite, like a cold ref will make reds bitter. Ideally, 60-65 degrees fahrenheit is perfect for cabs and shiraz.
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(alan1chef @ Oct. 09 2007,12:01) I would advise against putting red wines like cabernet or shiraz into the ref. If a restaurant or bar wants to serve dry reds with good flavor, they should consider a wine room with cement walls, a dehumidifier and air con. I agree that 90 degrees with 90 percent humidity will kill any wine, red or white, but the opposite, like a cold ref will make reds bitter. Ideally, 60-65 degrees fahrenheit is perfect for cabs and shiraz.
and no, i didn't go in to suggest storage options
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(DrPhil35 @ Nov. 25 2007,00:50) Why not try promoting Thai wine. the DIG does. This should cut the cost, providing the stuff is palatable. Even the barman thinks the Italian urine sample they seel now isn't up to much.
I must say; I won't order red wine again, I'm easy going, yet, that wasn't up to par at any rate. No complain, just an observation.
PP
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The wine Guess Bar serves by the glass is very drinkable - the idea of bottles has been dropped - just too many issues around it for the moment - hwoever they continue to have both red and white wine by the glass for a very reasonable (by Thai standards) 140 baht for a decent sized glass. As I remember the Red alternates between a Californian and Chilean box wine and the white is invariably a Californian Chardonnay.
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Mardhi
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We stock medium white wine by the glass coming out of a 10 litre box serving 125cl measures of Germam Liebfraumilch
We also stock Dry Sacred Hill White Californian Chardonnay and a red Drosty Hoff (South Africa) in 188cl "little! bottles which go down very well and may do so in the Guess Bar
I certainly would have the odd bottle of red in the Guess if available in these size bottles, but thats just me
Mine is not a big wine drinking pub I think due to the fact we dont serve food plus there is a big Beefeater restaurant and pub only 400 yards awayYour got yer Mother in a whirl
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(mardhi @ Sep. 30 2007,16:05) If Guess selected (via a relative expert and thats not me) say a wine list of a dozen good bottles mixed between red and white wine - would anybody be interested in drinking them?
I know wine is taxed heavy in Thailand, and last week when I went out I ended up paying something like 1500b + VAT + service charge for a half decent Australian bottle of wine - which personally I found to be a bit of a rip-off given that the same wine has a retail price of probably 600 baht and in Australia would probably sell for 300 baht or less.
My thought would be trying to convince Jay to get a wine fridge and then create a list of as I a say about a dozen wines, however interested in knowing if their would be much interest. By the way the selling price would be somewhere in the range of 800-1000 baht I would imagine.
Cheers
Mardhi
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