Fern at Guess Bar

[stogie bear]

Seems like a mug who has been taken for a ride is trying to shift the blame on someone other than himself and the sweet thing he fell for.

There are a couple more Guess Bar girls doing the exact same thing to mugs across the globe too so he ain't alone.

It doesn't matter how many times you splash it in paint a mile high there are still people here who think they are special and continue to fall for these wily hookers.

Fuckwits the lot of them.

Get this you fools - NONE of you are special unless you are there in front of her dishing out cash.

JaiDee is gonna love this when he resurfaces!

[harris11]

:up

Dont see myself as a mug SB, The last 18 months have been what I have wanted.  Money has always been involved, I was aware that it always would be. I was never looking for serious love from her, ok, we talked every day and I saw her about 14 weeks in total when I was in LOS, and on the whole I enjoyed the relationship.

She was the mug for fucking up, we were happy with our arrangment, she could work in the bar, she could do ice, she could see thai man when she wanted and she got her condo paid for and also subs when she was short of money, mainly due of late to her returning to her habit in a big way and not bothering to go to work.

We were working on her cutting back on the habit and she talked about going back to Issan for a while as she had done before.

I was happy to take care of her, I was fully aware that if I stopped the money she would be off, but also knew that we had a friendship.

She and her relationship with LC is not acceptable to me, and I want to move on. He is a mug for doing Ice as well and the two together would get some short term enjoyment from the others company before he moved on to another model leaving Fern in a worse situation.

I am not prepared to pick up these pieces from what I consider to be his doing.

I consider the money I spend on Fern as entertainment expenses and not buying her love ok. I could buy a classis car and spend money on that , I could waste money on a boat or second home. I decided that I wanted a ladyboy who was beautiful and who I could get close to on a daily basis and who I would see when I was in LOS. The money I spent meant that I was treated as number one and in order for her to keep me and the money coming in she had to play by my rules ok. She is the one who changed the rules and now she has lost me as her sponser. Let her find another.

All I have to do is decide wether to butterfly or hire a prostitute long time again when I return to LOS, there are plenty willing to take her place for a stupid mug like me.

Fern has made her bed by going with LC and not telling me and by the lies that were increasing in line with her drug habit. LC talks rubbish about the positive side to drugs, he has only just met Fern and does not know what changes have taken place with her over the last ten months solely due to her habit. He thinks it is fun but when he see her selling herself for 500 baht on Nana sidewalks lookng rough as hell in a few months I hope he feels ashamed.

[stogie bear]

She was the mug for fucking up...

This is like religion. You either believe or you don't. No amount of argument from either side will convince the other of their folly.

I appreciate you posting as honestly as you have, Harris11. I'll leave it at that.

[LadyboyCrush]

(kahuna @ Aug. 15 2008,21:44)

(LadyboyCrush @ Aug. 15 2008,20:36) Ah, here we go again...

I just got a PM from Harris making threats against me

Don't fret...If everyone he's threatened shows up in LOS at the same time as him,
he's gonna be one busy motherfucker fucking up everyone he's threatened to fuck up...

I can get some more fucks in that sentence if you like...

555+ Sweet...

Hey, maybe by "fuck me up" he meant that he was going to give me free drugs?

[LadyboyCrush]

(stogie bear @ Aug. 15 2008,21:49)

"You wont have business and you wont be in Thailand, I will find you and fuck you up."

Sounds familiar!  

Funny how some people think that those of us in the business of providing a service are really going to be affected by some part time tourist who has lost his heart, wallet and common sense on a prostitute.

I get this all the time too. Do you really think I'd still be here if these pissants could actually hurt me?

You do what you can to make these losers feel good but in the end you end up walking away because they have no idea about life.

Couldn't have said it better myself...

...and then there is the disgruntled / crazy ladyboys with their threats as well... I actually take them a LITTLE more seriously... but NOT MUCH.

[LadyboyCrush]

(benturpin @ Aug. 15 2008,22:07)

(LadyboyCrush @ Aug. 15 2008,20:16) Edited out to save space! (Stogie)

Hello Ladyboycrush...

(sigh)

...  I didnt even read your whole post this time because it got even more childish... What was childish?  Oh, all the plays on my name "crushy", "Mr Crush", etc...

(sigh)  

When you speak about something, you should atleast take the time and learn to spell it as well... "YA BA" is two words... "Yabba" is the beginning of The Flintstones theme song.

anyway, as I said, I didnt read your whole post because i just woke up... perhaps when I have more energy I will... I'm looking forward to reading Harris's response at the moment.

[LadyboyCrush]

(stogie bear @ Aug. 16 2008,03:53) Seems like a mug who has been taken for a ride is trying to shift the blame on someone other than himself and the sweet thing he fell for.

There are a couple more Guess Bar girls doing the exact same thing to mugs across the globe too so he ain't alone.

It doesn't matter how many times you splash it in paint a mile high there are still people here who think they are special and continue to fall for these wily hookers.

Fuckwits the lot of them.

Get this you fools - NONE of you are special unless you are there in front of her dishing out cash.

JaiDee is gonna love this when he resurfaces!  

Nah... C'mon Stogey! That is true love! Ching Ching!

It has to be. All true friendships start by one person paying the other so they will hang out with them, right?

And we all know that is ALSO the way to grow respect in a relationship. ESPECIALLY with Thai ladyboys. If you give them even more money, they will assume you are just a REALLY sweet guy, and NOT a big sucker.

CHING CHING!

[stogie bear]

Well, it's pretty easy to be a bit smug when you live here and see these manipulative petals all the time. I'm guilty of that.

But short of slapping everyone who arrives in Thailand with a good right hander there's nothing you can tell some people.

The problem is that you are trying to explain a principle of human behaviour that doesn't exist in their own environment.

Many of these people are smart enough and have good jobs. They are successful in many ways and they are aware that they are a cut above the road sweepers.

But what all this clout doesn't prepare them for is a situation where their education and experience of people has no value.

They are used to being right on their home turf so often that they plough stupidly ahead and into the most bizarre arrangements with ladyboys who they barely know outside of the surreal environment of a bar.

They are throwing real life solutions at unreal life situations.

I respect Harris11 and many others for explaining their sides of the story, but if they were looking at this through my eyes they'd want to give themselves a good slap.

Fern and the others (it's unfair to single her out when I know of so many) are smart, intelligent people who have learned that by supplying the desires of men who will pay they can avoid working in a factory.

In the process of doing this they lose their souls. What you see is what they want you to see. How you feel is how they want you to feel. Anger, hurt, jealousy, pleasure... they are pulling the strings and we have none save our wallets.

None of us are ever going to be special and to think that we are special carries a great level of arrogance.

What I see in the mirror is a fat bald miserable cunt with money.

My most attractive feature is my money. I can live with that...

You should too.

[LadyboyCrush]

A friend in needs a friend indeed...
A friend with weed is better.
A friend with breasts and all the rest,
A friend who's dressed in leather.

A friend in needs a friend indeed...
A friend who'll tease is better.
Our thoughts compressed,
Which makes us blessed,
And makes for stormy weather.

A friend in needs a friend indeed...
My Japanese is better.
And when she's pressed she will undress,
And then she's boxing clever.

A friend in needs a friend indeed...
A friend who bleeds is better.
My friend confessed she passed the test,
And we will never sever.

Day's dawning, skins crawling.

"Pure Morning" by Placebo

---Just thought these lyrics were applicable to this thread somehow.

[benturpin]

(LadyboyCrush @ Aug. 16 2008,13:42)

(benturpin @ Aug. 15 2008,22:07)

(LadyboyCrush @ Aug. 15 2008,20:16)

Edited out to save space! (Stogie)

Hello Ladyboycrush

As a realist with a certain ego you disappoint me. I expected more of you but up to you if you prefer not to read my post.Yet you start judging again. Do you know as a realist you must take everything that is provided to you into account before you point your view. *But no hard feelings. I think you started to read it and realized your lost your teeth. Again no problem Mr Jones ( hello Dylan). I know a good dentist who can help you out. So please pm me if you need help. The same goes for your medical problems. Nothing to be ashamed of. Remember shit can happen like you said yourself. Only it is imo cheap to tackle me on spelling and focus on the childish part. It is of no real importance and pragmatic realist like you should know that . If this is all you can come up with *than I cannot take you serious anymore. Sorry you are no expert or realist. You simply are not skillfull. Let me put it midly to you : ignorant would be a better option for you.
I can only *conclude that you *are such a "mature "person you cannot keep up with a discussion. *A person who claims to have 5 year experience in what? My gues would be 5 years of selfdenial or craving for pleasure. Or maybe even longer.
Next time you post something on a medical issue, do yourself and others a favor: prepare yourself or at least try to do that. This time you went flat on your face and your pants went down.
One little advice: *selfdenial and craving are far more bigger problems than wasting your time on a post by mr harris. You know that are posts I *read but instantly forget after reading . They don't move me .Quoting that these kind of posts are important to you, *gives me insight on what kind of person you really are. A grey mouse or a dead duck.
By the way are you the same person that is involved on the ladyboycrush forum. ?
If so it explains a lot

Have a nice day Mr lbcrush

[LadyboyCrush]

(stogie bear @ Aug. 16 2008,15:30) I never get freebees from Cindy. That's it with her!  

You know, its funny you mention that... Perhaps THAT is why Harris is so upset... Because he always has to pay for sex with Fern... And I never do.

I think we are on to something here...

[LadyboyCrush]

(benturpin @ Aug. 16 2008,15:38)

(LadyboyCrush @ Aug. 16 2008,13:42)

(benturpin @ Aug. 15 2008,22:07)

(LadyboyCrush @ Aug. 15 2008,20:16)

Edited out to save space! (Stogie)

Hello Ladyboycrush

As a realist with a certain ego you disappoint me. I expected more of you but up to you if you prefer not to read my post.Yet you start judging again. Do you know as a realist you must take everything that is provided to you into account before you point your view.  But no hard feelings. I think you started to read it and realized your lost your teeth. Again no problem Mr Jones ( hello Dylan). I know a good dentist who can help you out. So please pm me if you need help. The same goes for your medical problems. Nothing to be ashamed of. Remember shit can happen like you said yourself. Only it is imo cheap to tackle me on spelling and focus on the childish part. It is of no real importance and pragmatic realist like you should know that . If this is all you can come up with  than I cannot take you serious anymore. Sorry you are no expert or realist. You simply are not skillfull. Let me put it midly to you : ignorant would be a better option for you.
I can only  conclude that you  are such a "mature "person you cannot keep up with a discussion.  A person who claims to have 5 year experience in what? My gues would be 5 years of selfdenial or craving for pleasure. Or maybe even longer.
Next time you post something on a medical issue, do yourself and others a favor: prepare yourself or at least try to do that. This time you went flat on your face and your pants went down.
One little advice:  selfdenial and craving are far more bigger problems than wasting your time on a post by mr harris. You know that are posts I  read but instantly forget after reading . They don't move me .Quoting that these kind of posts are important to you,  gives me insight on what kind of person you really are. A grey mouse or a dead duck.
By the way are you the same person that is involved on the ladyboycrush forum. ?
If so it explains a lot

Have a nice day Mr lbcrush

You know, I started reading this one as well, and just tired of it before the first paragraph... With your patronizing tone, personal jabs, and again, plays on my name / different names that YOU think are clever to call me... Its just not worth my time...

That teeth analogy was TOP NOTCH though... Very clever.

[LadyboyCrush]

(stogie bear @ Aug. 16 2008,15:30) Well, it's pretty easy to be a bit smug when you live here and see these manipulative petals all the time. I'm guilty of that.

But short of slapping everyone who arrives in Thailand with a good right hander there's nothing you can tell some people.

The problem is that you are trying to explain a principle of human behaviour that doesn't exist in their own environment.

Many of these people are smart enough and have good jobs. They are successful in many ways and they are aware that they are a cut above the road sweepers.

But what all this clout doesn't prepare them for is a situation where their education and experience of people has no value.

They are used to being right on their home turf so often that they plough stupidly ahead and into the most bizarre arrangements with ladyboys who they barely know outside of the surreal environment of a bar.

They are throwing real life solutions at unreal life  situations.

I respect Harris11 and many others for explaining their sides of the story, but if they were looking at this through my eyes they'd want to give themselves a good slap.

Fern and the others (it's unfair to single her out when I know of so many) are smart, intelligent people who have learned that by supplying the desires of men who will pay they can avoid working in a factory.

In the process of doing this they lose their souls. What you see is what they want you to see. How you feel is how they want you to feel. Anger, hurt, jealousy, pleasure... they are pulling the strings and we have none save our wallets.

None of us are ever going to be special and to think that we are special carries a great level of arrogance.

What I see in the mirror is a fat bald miserable cunt with money.

My most attractive feature is my money. I can live with that...

You should too.

Great post.

[perth_couple]

Gotta say Turp's, your message does get a little watered down by the sanctimonious patronising tone...

Is this the approach you take in your clinical setting??

[seamus]

(LadyboyCrush @ Aug. 16 2008,07:44) Perhaps THAT is why Harris is so upset... Because he always has to pay for sex with Fern... And I never do.

So are the drugs free then.Or is she just poping round for a cup of tea & a chin wag.