I Can't Be Trusted

[Road Runner]

(iceberg @ Nov. 24 2010,09:48) I am entitled to my opinion by what I said what was said

You are entitled to your opinion and I partly agree with you  -  BUT!

(iceberg @ Nov. 24 2010,09:48) she did wrong in talking to some x -gf of some person who now likes Ladyboys

How do you know he likes ladyboys?   How did Tan work out he likes ladyboys?    How did his ex-gf work out he liked ladyboys?

(iceberg @ Nov. 24 2010,09:48) the hear no evil,speak no evil see no evil response is really maddening to me as I think this and other forums(no matterwhat you think of them)should be kept private

You post something on an unsecured electronic means of communication that is read by 4000+ people and can be hacked by anyone with the knowledge and experience and you want it to be private?    

(iceberg @ Nov. 24 2010,09:48) ....I have a special Ladyboy in LOS and don't know how all my family and friends would take the news that I love a lady w/ a cock.

Well the first thing I would say is don't put your pictures and/or hers onto Facebook....  or any other website of any description including this one.

(iceberg @ Nov. 24 2010,09:48) she should know that a relationship is harder for the 3rd sex than for a GG

I'm sure she's fully aware of that and does not want reminding  -  no I've never met her but I can work that out from experience.

(iceberg @ Nov. 24 2010,09:48) I really like being a member of this forum but it seems like ther is a definite leak in info here,and no one wants to admit it.

Any.... no every forum will have leaks  -  this one is no more or less prone than any other.
Tracking down those that leak is difficult and there is no practical, lasting way of banning someone from a forum as it's not difficult to create ghost accounts VPN's etc and then sign on as a different identity.

My best advice is to carefully consider what you post and if in doubt.....  don't post it!

We could ban all those who have ever said, or written, something, maybe, to someone, somewhere, that could be used against them.
On my arthmetic that would leave  1,   2,   3,  4.....   people on the forum.....   on no 5 people I forgot me.      

RR.

[guydesavoy]

Well summed up DT  

I realise some people are rather exercised by this whole hero/traitor/leaker subject, but let's not confuse the issues and jump to unwarranted conclusions in situations that are really not related, in spite of emotional reactions to the contrary.

There we go...'emotional'... All the more reason to avoid knee jerk reactions when one or other party is aggrieved when they get caught up in some internet-ladyboy web  

Oh, and it would be rather helpful if people actually read the posts without prejudice

[f0xxee]

(iceberg @ Nov. 24 2010,15:48) And to Foxee about me being out of line Are you really serious would you want Tan talking to people that know you about your love for mrs. Foxee, I don't know your situation(?) but I have a special Ladyboy in LOS and don't know how all my family and friends would take the news that I love a lady w/ a cock.

Hi Iceberg,

You are missing the point I think.

Tan knows me from online (we have not met in real life) and and has been a sob-sister helping me through the odd rough patch. Would I give a fuck if Tan talked about my relationship with Mrs F? NO! Because ...... drum roll..... I only tell Tan or ANYONE for that matter things that are not so highly sensitive that I wouldn't want them repeated.

I dont tell people things best kept to myself because I dont trust them, but simply because I dont want them to have the responsibility of keeping my dirty little secrets secret. Can you honestly say that you have never inadvertantly spilled the beans on a matter you have been sworn to secrecy on? I have. SO I dont want to know your secrets thanks very much, and I'll keep mine to myself.

Now maybe I am old school, but back in the day (and I am only 48 for christ's sake) we were well trained in knowing what was to be kept "in house" and what was public domain.

Now it seems every peckerhead that ever held an iPhone or has a twitter account wants to tell you about thier breakfast and other such rivetting news coups. And then they want to whinge about it when it comes back and bites them on the arse.

PS: Ask my mother how she likes Mrs F. I actually think she prefers the Missus to me. As do my cousins etc all of whom have met her when visiting... All my work mates from what is definately a very masculine industry reckon shes pretty cool too.
In other words the best way to avoid being outed is to out your self, head held high and live what you believe. Believe it or not your family and friends would probably be quite understanding if she was a good girl.

You are probably more worried everyone will think you are gay.
Relax.
You are.

[Steff]

Thanks for clearing that up for me Foxee. I was wondering...

[manarak]

DT wrote:

I suggest you talk to Solice. If he tells you that Tan talked to his ex-GG and told her stuff about him that she learned on this forum, or on ANY forum, then get back to us. But I don't believe he's ever said that;

=> but Solice said exactly that on LBP forum.

Then Tan wrote:

By the way just if you don't know Solice have apologise already to me and he knew what have really happen.

=> So apparently, Solice apologized as his first accusation was wrong.

So I apologize too to Tan, I have been misled in my understanding of the situation.

[Steff]

I am happy every one is kissing and making up!!! It's a good day for the forum

[kahuna]

Bullshit...Conflict...Cyber-Wars...Name calling...etc., etc...

That's what's good for the forum...Not this kissing and lovey-dovey shit...

[manarak]

Here is what Solice posted on the "other" forum.
You please draw your own conclusions.

I have been reading this thread throughout the day on my phone while at work at first and foremost I would like to say that im disapointed that it has turned into a Solice and Tan issue once again.
I dont believe Travis wished this to happen, I read it as you look after your own and you look after 'our' forum and thats the point he was trying to make but it seems many of you have gone off on a tangent.

I was going to have a look over at TLF to see what was going on but to be honest im not that interested now, the nuclear bomb that has been detonated in my life is much more pressing. If any guys out there think that this is now just about friends and family finding out about my love of a ladyboy then you are mistaken, it has taken new twists and turns and we could be looking at my job and possibly police involvement.

However lets put a myth to bed for the sake of a few muppets over at TLF who think they know Solice even though it has got nothing to do with anyone on that forum or this one.

Is Solice married - Yes I am
Does Solice live with his estranged wife - No he doesnt
Has Solice been seperated from his wife for 4 Years - most definately

So to those guys that think they know me, try again.

I have been in contact with Tan and we have sent numerous emails to each other, I have promised that if I were to discuss this here then I would not involve her, this is very difficult if I am to explain certain issues but I will do my best to keep this promise and will therefore not go into too much detail.

Myself and Tan have both made mistakes, mine was to fly off the handle and to not talk to her first, hers was to talk to a stranger regarding me and issues about the forum, we both realise we have made mistakes but we have both been led a merry dance by a cold calculating bitch.
I would like to state that I hold no malice to Tan, the ex is amazing at leading people in and gaining the information she requires, the ex had suspicions and Tan was led in to confirm them, I dont agree with it but it seems to be the case.

To all those guessing at what took place you can not possibly know, I do not have all the facts or the conversations or what the ex did and did not know and neither does Tan, the only person that knows is the ex.
Travis hit the nail on the head when he said in 'ousted' nobody knows what was on my facebook and unless you do you cant comment,so very true, Eagle has also seen this from a sensible angle and looked at the facts and not just at loyalty.

Regarding what has taken place with the Tan and me is over thats why I asked for the thread to be removed, nobody will gain from this going further, case closed.

I really dont know much about the other forums but what I will say is that the support I have recieved here and via pm has been literally astounding, to everyone that has pm'd me and I wont name names your words have helped me in ways which you could never know and I am truly grateful.

I have learned many lessons from this, the main one being if you dont want your secret to get out then do not mention even in the slightest way anything that you wish to hide, all this started over a picture of a ladyboy on a beach in Jomtein.

What it has made me realise is that I dont care anymore about what people think, I am with the person that gives me a reason to get out of bed every day, just hearing her voice on the phone makes me forget the troubles I am having to deal with therefore I am not going to hide, why should I, Im the luckiest guy in the world.

Im going to end this with a quote that was sent to me about my relationship with Paeng, im sure the lady in question wont mind me repeating it.

The People who matter dont care, and the people who care dont matter.

Says it all for me

Solice
Ps the apology I made to Tan was for not coming to her first, nothing else.

[deepthroat]

Manarak, did you ask Solice if it was ok to take the information he posted for members of the Pattaya Ladyboys forum and show it folks that aren't members of that forum?

I'm suspecting that maybe you didn't ask him for his permission. I also would venture a guess that he might not have granted you that permission had you had the common courtesy to ask him in advance. I cannot speak for Solice of course, so I could be completely wrong about this but I'm guessing you never bothered to ask him for that permission.

What exactly do we call that, when a member of a forum takes information from the forum and shows it to those that are not members of that forum?

Gosh, I seem to have had a brain freeze here, it's right on the tip of my tongue..... dammit, starts with an "H"......

[Stewart]

(deepthroat @ Nov. 25 2010,15:02) Manarak, did you ask Solice if it was ok to take the information he posted for members of the Pattaya Ladyboys forum and show it folks that aren't members of that forum?

I'm suspecting that maybe you didn't ask him for his permission. I also would venture a guess that he might not have granted you that permission had you had the common courtesy to ask him in advance. I cannot speak for Solice of course, so I could be completely wrong about this but I'm guessing you never bothered to ask him for that permission.

What exactly do we call that, when a member of a forum takes information from the forum and shows it to those that are not members of that forum?

Gosh, I seem to have had a brain freeze here, it's right on the tip of my tongue..... dammit, starts with an "H"......

It is not in the members/special area, or whatever it is called.

Is is open for everyone to read who has signed up with any old e-mail address

[manarak]

(deepthroat @ Nov. 25 2010,15:02) Manarak, did you ask Solice if it was ok to take the information he posted for members of the Pattaya Ladyboys forum and show it folks that aren't members of that forum?

I'm suspecting that maybe you didn't ask him for his permission. I also would venture a guess that he might not have granted you that permission had you had the common courtesy to ask him in advance. I cannot speak for Solice of course, so I could be completely wrong about this but I'm guessing you never bothered to ask him for that permission.

What exactly do we call that, when a member of a forum takes information from the forum and shows it to those that are not members of that forum?

Gosh, I seem to have had a brain freeze here, it's right on the tip of my tongue..... dammit, starts with an "H"......

it is posted in the public area

[guydesavoy]

(Stewart @ Nov. 25 2010,15:03) Is is open for everyone to read who has signed up with any old e-mail address

Saved me that trouble.

[deepthroat]

Manarak, you are my hero.

Dangit, I still cannot remember that word when someone takes information from the forum and shows it to non-members without permission... it's right on the tip of my tongue....

[manarak]

when someone takes confidential information from the restricted access forum

You don't seem to pay a lot of attention to detail and precision, DT.
Are you a manager or a salesman?

[guydesavoy]

Seems kahuna got his wish...