I Can't Be Trusted

[Bumblebee]

(iceberg @ Nov. 23 2010,02:42) Glad to see you've made a new friend Tan way to prove how much you like to talk to others outside this forum about what goes on here.

I don't think she is talking about what is going on in this forum.  She is trying to sort out something that originated on Facebook and came out on another forum.  She has become embroiled in a sticky situation that was not of her making and she is trying to clear the air about what was said about her on the other forum.

[Steff]

Tan,

For what it is worth the GF sounds bitter and vindictive. Please be careful and try to exorcise yourself from the whole sticky affair.

As most of us have already said, you did nothing wrong so please be polite, bow out, and move on. You are much too KEWL of a gal to be continuing to devote your time to this yada-rama of no import.

[iceberg]

(Bumblebee @ Nov. 23 2010,03:50)

(iceberg @ Nov. 23 2010,02:42) Glad to see you've made a new friend Tan way to prove how much you like to talk to others outside this forum about what goes on here.

I don't think she is talking about what is going on in this forum.  She is trying to sort out something that originated on Facebook and came out on another forum.  She has become embroiled in a sticky situation that was not of her making and she is trying to clear the air about what was said about her on the other forum.

When I said "this forum" I was just speaking in general about all forums like this one(Ladyboy related),and I know she's our little princess,but why is she any different than the so-called Hero(traitor) that gave up FriedFunk in another recent situation here.
 The reason people join this and other sights is the relative anonymity they provide and also it's a comfortable place to discuss Ladyboys w/ out being judged by the rest of the world and possibly condemned for our likes and interest.
   When someone breaks that trust even a little as I believe Tan did by even answering any questions that this person asked, or even chattting w/ her at all,once she found out who the nosy bitch was it should have ended then and there.
   Now, Tan is continueing chatting w/ this vindictive cunt(by her own admmission a few posts up from here)proving my point if she doesn't know either of these people then why continue to keep up communication.
   I know she says SHE CAN CHAT WITH WHOEVER SHE WANTS TO, well this situation proves that her origal post most likely is proving itself true, "I Can't be Trusted".        P.S. and she'll probably love this,as the old sying goes "If the shoe fits, wear it"

[Road Runner]

(iceberg @ Nov. 22 2010,22:33) When someone breaks that trust even a little as I believe Tan did by even answering any questions that this person asked, or even chattting w/ her at all,once she found out who the nosy bitch was it should have ended then and there.
   Now, Tan is continueing chatting w/ this vindictive cunt(by her own admmission a few posts up from here)proving my point if she doesn't know either of these people then why continue to keep up communication.

I suspect you did not see the posts on the LadyboysPattaya forum before they were deleted.
I did and as I hinted at in my post above there were a couple of things that did not read right about what was posted over there.

Solice admitted that Tan and he and his two girlfriends (present & ex) had no connection in any way, shape, or form.
Other than that Tan had registered herself as a friend on Facebook  -  along with numerous others!

If Tan  (by Solice's own admission)  knew nothing about any of them  -  how could she give his ex-girlfriend details of his present relattionship?

Everything I saw on the LBPattaya forum and most of what Tan posted here suggests to me that the ex-girlfriend of the Solice is the one who has stirred up this whole mess for her own ends.
The ex probably knew about everything Solice was up to before she contacted Tan.   Even if she did not obviously he had left enough incriminating evidence to prompt the ex to start seriously looking.


OK maybe Tan was unwise to talk to  -  or to continue talking to the ex but there is zero evidence that she has broken any trust.

RR.

[laputanegra]

I decided to not comment on here anymore. some people will not understand my side of the story no matter how hard i will explain it. but i believe some guys here do. i also have decided to just ignore solice and not answer his email anymore and just move on and get out of this mess. I told the girl to best talk the issue between them and leave me out of it as i really don't have anything to do with it all i did was listen. and im hoping it will all end now. and i hope mods will close or delete this thread. sorry if i have offended anyone here and to those that have believe in me thank you.

[Bumblebee]

(iceberg @ Nov. 23 2010,04:33)

(Bumblebee @ Nov. 23 2010,03:50)

(iceberg @ Nov. 23 2010,02:42) Glad to see you've made a new friend Tan way to prove how much you like to talk to others outside this forum about what goes on here.

I don't think she is talking about what is going on in this forum.  She is trying to sort out something that originated on Facebook and came out on another forum.  She has become embroiled in a sticky situation that was not of her making and she is trying to clear the air about what was said about her on the other forum.

When I said "this forum" I was just speaking in general about all forums like this one(Ladyboy related),and I know she's our little princess,but why is she any different than the so-called Hero(traitor) that gave up FriedFunk in another recent situation here.
 The reason people join this and other sights is the relative anonymity they provide and also it's a comfortable place to discuss Ladyboys w/ out being judged by the rest of the world and possibly condemned for our likes and interest.
   When someone breaks that trust even a little as I believe Tan did by even answering any questions that this person asked, or even chattting w/ her at all,once she found out who the nosy bitch was it should have ended then and there.
   Now, Tan is continueing chatting w/ this vindictive cunt(by her own admmission a few posts up from here)proving my point if she doesn't know either of these people then why continue to keep up communication.
   I know she says SHE CAN CHAT WITH WHOEVER SHE WANTS TO, well this situation proves that her origal post most likely is proving itself true, "I Can't be Trusted".        P.S. and she'll probably love this,as the old sying goes "If the shoe fits, wear it"

This whole sorry situation started on Facebook, not on any forum.  Tan did not set out to be a malicious hero and give out any information about the forums.  As far as I can see the first time the forums came into all this was when the initial accusation was made against her yesterday on the other forum.  

She reacted in a way that most of us would have to varying degrees and defended herself against what she saw as false accusation that needed to be addressed. In my opinion if the accusation had been handled in a different way, ie the poster's concerns had been aired in the advanced section, or via a pm if possible to Tan, and so out of general view, it could have been dealt with in a more discreet way.  Thus Tan would not have been put in the position of having to defend herself in a public forum and find herself accused of being a "hero"  when in fact she is just a victim of circumstance.  

BMs here who know me, know that I am a fairly laid back guy who doesn't get worked up too easily.  But when I see someone who is essentially a victim in all this being portrayed as a leak and "hero" because she used the only means available to her to right a wrong and did not set out with the intent of giving away any perceived forum "Omerta" I cannot bite my tongue for long.

[deepthroat]

Well said BB and RR, and very wise of you Tan to stop trying to explain as you really have nothing else to explain. Sometimes the more you protest your innocence the more it can be perceived incorrectly, so the wisest course is to do as you've done.

Iceberg, hopefully you'll come to your senses as will Manarak. Not sure how FriedFunk got drug in to this but hopefully he'll come to his senses in Chiang Mai as well (he's a scary one that FriedFunk!)

If everyone would be a little more accountable for their own actions (ie: Facebook profiles, posting pictures of girls you've promised you wouldn't post pictures of, etc.) there might be a little less of this drama.

Good girl Tan. Now save all that energy for your dance number at the GOTC in February. You are still coming, right?  

[deepthroat]

P.S. - remind me NOT to piss off or argue with Tan. She seems pretty ferocious when angry - I wouldn't want her to kick my ass in public, that might be kind of embarrassing.

Especially if she did it in heels.

[Steff]

Of course she is coming!!! Nothing has changed here at all. If for some reason she is unable to come to us, then we will go to her.    Tan and the GOTC will connect no matter what because she is our guest of honor and we have a match set up between her and Elastic Bear. This will be the encounter of the year!

Tan, you did the right thing. I concur with DT and BB. I am happy you are wiping your hands of this silliness. Let's simply drop it all and dismiss it as an occupational hazard and move on.

We love ya.

See ya soon.

[f0xxee]

(deepthroat @ Nov. 23 2010,06:02) If everyone would be a little more accountable for their own actions (ie: Facebook profiles, posting pictures of girls you've promised you wouldn't post pictures of, etc.) there might be a little less of this drama.

Agreed. Well said DT.

As another poster mentioned the minute you post anything personal on the internet you have kissed your privacy goodbye, so think before you post.

[Stewart]

(iceberg @ Nov. 23 2010,04:33) When I said "this forum" I was just speaking in general about all forums like this one(Ladyboy related),and I know she's our little princess,but why is she any different than the so-called Hero(traitor) that gave up FriedFunk in another recent situation here.
 The reason people join this and other sights is the relative anonymity they provide and also it's a comfortable place to discuss Ladyboys w/ out being judged by the rest of the world and possibly condemned for our likes and interest.
   When someone breaks that trust even a little as I believe Tan did by even answering any questions that this person asked, or even chattting w/ her at all,once she found out who the nosy bitch was it should have ended then and there.
   Now, Tan is continueing chatting w/ this vindictive cunt(by her own admmission a few posts up from here)proving my point if she doesn't know either of these people then why continue to keep up communication.
   I know she says SHE CAN CHAT WITH WHOEVER SHE WANTS TO, well this situation proves that her origal post most likely is proving itself true, "I Can't be Trusted".        P.S. and she'll probably love this,as the old sying goes "If the shoe fits, wear it"

What total bollocks

The only thing this situation proves is that facebook, Google, the internet et all are not private.

[PigDogg]

[quote]
(Bumblebee @ Nov. 22 2010,14:39) [quote]
(iceberg @ Nov. 23 2010,04:33)

:why is she any different than the so-called Hero(traitor) that gave up FriedFunk in another recent situation here.

 
   
This whole sorry situation started on Facebook, not on any forum.  Tan did not set out to be a malicious hero and give out any information about the forums.  As far as I can see the first time the forums came into all this was when the initial accusation was made against her yesterday on the other forum.  

She reacted in a way that most of us would have to varying degrees and defended herself against what she saw as false accusation that needed to be addressed. In my opinion if the accusation had been handled in a different way, ie the poster's concerns had been aired in the advanced section, or via a pm if possible to Tan, and so out of general view, it could have been dealt with in a more discreet way.  Thus Tan would not have been put in the position of having to defend herself in a public forum and find herself accused of being a "hero"  when in fact she is just a victim of circumstance.  

BMs here who know me, know that I am a fairly laid back guy who doesn't get worked up too easily.  But when I see someone who is essentially a victim in all this being portrayed as a leak and "hero" because she used the only means available to her to right a wrong and did not set out with the intent of giving away any perceived forum "Omerta" I cannot bite my tongue for long.

This situation is completely different than Fried Funk's situation and BumbleBee sums up the situation nicely.

This is all about Facebook, not the forums.  It has nothing do with the forums other than the guy being a well liked respected poster over there and Tan being a well liked and respected poster over here. To the best of my knowledge, he has never posted here and she has never posted there until two days ago.

She gave out no personal info about the guy caught up in a terrible Facebook mess.  Since she has no previous history with him whatsoever, in person or on the forums, there was no information that could have been given out.  

The shit stirer in the Fried Funk situation is a farang guy.  The shit stirer in this situation is the British girlfriend.   Not Tan who was unfortunately drawn into this mess.

[f0xxee]

My final thoughts on this matter:

As stated before, there is a world of difference between what happened to FF and what happened to Solice.

Iceberg: you are well out of line. According to you we should all censor our conversations on the vaguest of suspicions that there might be an angry ex GF on the other end of the conversation. Tan did nothing wrong and she has been a member in good standing here who has met many of the BM's and has proven her love and affection as a true sister.

Lastly: FF is a single gent getting his jollies in CM and posting for our entertainment. He is not as far as I am aware married with sprog at home, or sending emails to a GF at home telling her how hard he is working digging latrines for the Laotians or removing land mines in Cambodia. So what happened to him truly sucks.

NOW: to all you middle aged married men who come over here and tell the wife you are on a golfing holiday or whatever, and then are SO FUCKING STUPID and so ACHING FOR GLORY that you post your episodes on various forums (or facebook FFS!). You deseve what you get if you get caught out.
If your Missus wants to divorce you and gets a private investigator to investigate you, and if she mentioned a suspicion you were fucking LB's where the fuck do you think that PI might go looking? And how hard with tracking cookies etc these days would it be for him to find out what forums you visit? Would a 50 dollar VIP membership (redeemable to him in his bill to your missus) stop him?

The fact is no. It would not. Benjamin Franklin stated "Three men may keep a secret if two of them are dead" Or words to that fucking effect. So why would you choose to believe that a forum of a few thousand memebers would keep your dirty little secrets?

In short: If you cannot afford to have what you do end up in the public domain don't post it.
And if you do look no further than the fucking mirror when you are in shitters ditch with the fall out from your outing. You only have yourself to blame.

[guydesavoy]

(f0xxee @ Nov. 23 2010,12:45) Benjamin Franklin stated "Three men may keep a secret if two of them are dead" Or words to that fucking effect. So why would you choose to believe that a forum of a few thousand memebers would keep your dirty little secrets?

In short: If you cannot afford to have what you do end up in the public domain don't post it.

Quite right Foxy  

Vindictive traitors, self-serving heroes, careless, negligent or just plain drunk BMs   , crazy LBs   ... the list of potential 'leakers' goes on. And often very difficult to trace. Either because the traitor will cover his tracks in most cases, or the careless ones are often just 'anonymous' punters in a Bar.

Not much anyone can do about it unfortunately  

[friedfrunk]

(f0xxee @ Nov. 23 2010,13:45) FF is a single gent getting his jollies in CM and posting for our entertainment. He is not as far as I am aware married with sprog at home, or sending emails to a GF at home telling her how hard he is working digging latrines for the Laotians or removing land mines in Cambodia. So what happened to him truly sucks.

Thanks f0xxee. For the record, I'm single. And just doing basic (or not so basic) mongering in CM. I'm not cheating on anybody back home like Solstice.

(deepthroat @ Nov. 23 2010,07:02) Not sure how FriedFunk got drug in to this but hopefully he'll come to his senses in Chiang Mai as well (he's a scary one that FriedFunk!)

If everyone would be a little more accountable for their own actions (ie: Facebook profiles, posting pictures of girls you've promised you wouldn't post pictures of, etc.) there might be a little less of this drama.

Don't know if your last line suggests that I post ladyboy pics even after promising I won't. For the record, if any ladyboy explicitly requests that she doesn't want to appear on the internet, then I respect that. I'm a reasonable guy dude. On the other hand, I don't explicitly tell ladyboys I photograph (at bar, street or room), that I'll post about them. Am I supposed to make them sign model release forms? Or tell them that I'll post in an internet forum? They'll invariably start asking about the forum. Visit the forum themselves. Ask who are forum members. Ask about this VIP thing. Blah de blah. Anyway this is a little off topic.