Disgraced former governer lands job with Fox

[Torurot]

on the other hand US "intelligence" have been masters of probity & reliability?

BTW, when we talk of numbers of war dead, and who is the biggest killer, this site is worth a look.

Source List and Detailed Death Tolls for the Twentieth Century
http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/warstat1.htm

[strocube]

(Tomcat @ Feb. 05 2010,22:36)

(strocube @ Feb. 05 2010,22:17) Fascism:
noun

What the fuck has Fox News got in common with Mussolini or Hitler.
Blimey! , ive seen some off the mark statements in my time but this beats them all.

Their website certainly doesnt look that sinister ...
http://www.foxnews.com/slidesh....t=faces

Dude, can you read?
Lemme try and break it down for you. What Faux "News" has in common with Franco, Mussolini and Hitler is, as was stated in the post, " . . . a political ideology that seeks to combine radical and authoritarian nationalism with a corporatist economic system."[U]

Of course their website does not look sinister. You think Hitler looked sinister to most Germans during his rise to power? Fuck no! They trusted him and thought that he understood them and that he spoke for them. Sound familiar?

[tscrazy]

You know what i find ironic ?  That not a single person here has come out to defend Obama's continuation of the war in Iraq and Afghanistan.  all of these crazy Bush hating psychos who think Bush is a war criminal yet Obama completely lied about his intent to end the war by last September and after 3 months of hesitation, he in the process of doing his own surge in Afghanistan.  So where are all the peaceniks?  where are all the humanitarians?  Where is the outrage?

Obama is DIRECTLY responsible for every death since January 2009 and continuing into 2010 in Afhghnistan and iraq.  There now I'm as insane as the Bushhaters.                

And one thing i would just add to the discussion about fascism, totalitarianism, tyrants etc.... no matter what political side they lean to, they share 2 common bonds: massive deprivation of human rights and the control and manipulation of the media.  While Obama is unskilled, inexperienced and stupid as he is, I doubt he would resort to the first thing.  Yet, he has been trying to stamp out politcal opposition on the radio and has been direclty attacking any news station that is critical of him.  It really is no surpirse that not a single cabinet member or advisor says they admire Lincoln or Washington etc... Many have been caught on video extolling Mao, Chavez and Castro.  That's wha they want for America.

Yesterday Obama attacked FoxNews (nothing new) but he also attacked CNN.  The only reason why he hasn't sent out the TARP supported - Black Panthers to attack his enemies is that he feers the militiamen in the midwest and the rednecks in the south !  that's why people like me have not been put on a boxcar to a gulag.

[strocube]

(tscrazy @ Feb. 06 2010,03:54) Yesterday Obama attacked FoxNews (nothing new) but he also attacked CNN.  The only reason why he hasn't sent out the TARP supported - Black Panthers to attack his enemies is that he feers the militiamen in the midwest and the rednecks in the south !  that's why people like me have not been put on a boxcar to a gulag.

You're joking, right?
Did we forget to take our meds today?
Dude, I think you you need thicker tin-foil hat.

I do not support Obama's continued occupation of Iraq, nor do I support his sending more troops to Afghanistan. I am also frustrated by his inability to pass any meaningful health care reform.
I'm also not happy with the way he has dealt with Wall Street. "You tanked the global economy, here's billions of dollars!" Not good.
The difference between him and the shrub is that the shrub CHOSE to invade Iraq and Afghanistan. And the shrub's admin was also responsible for much of the de-regulation that led to the economic collapse in the first place. To be fair, Clinton also had a hand in some that.
The current mess is one that Obama inherited from the shrub.
While I do not agree with the way he has handled things, I think he is still orders of magnitude superior to the shrub, intellectually, morally, culturally and personally.

[smuttleydfs]

(tscrazy @ Feb. 05 2010,16:54) You know what i find ironic ?  That not a single person here has come out to defend Obama's continuation of the war in Iraq and Afghanistan.  all of these crazy Bush hating psychos who think Bush is a war criminal yet Obama completely lied about his intent to end the war by last September and after 3 months of hesitation, he in the process of doing his own surge in Afghanistan.  So where are all the peaceniks?  where are all the humanitarians?  Where is the outrage?

Obama is DIRECTLY responsible for every death since January 2009 and continuing into 2010 in Afhghnistan and iraq.  There now I'm as insane as the Bushhaters.                

And one thing i would just add to the discussion about fascism, totalitarianism, tyrants etc.... no matter what political side they lean to, they share 2 common bonds: massive deprivation of human rights and the control and manipulation of the media.  While Obama is unskilled, inexperienced and stupid as he is, I doubt he would resort to the first thing.  Yet, he has been trying to stamp out politcal opposition on the radio and has been direclty attacking any news station that is critical of him.  It really is no surpirse that not a single cabinet member or advisor says they admire Lincoln or Washington etc... Many have been caught on video extolling Mao, Chavez and Castro.  That's wha they want for America.

Yesterday Obama attacked FoxNews (nothing new) but he also attacked CNN.  The only reason why he hasn't sent out the TARP supported - Black Panthers to attack his enemies is that he feers the militiamen in the midwest and the rednecks in the south !  that's why people like me have not been put on a boxcar to a gulag.

Excuse me "crazy" when did Obama set a September deadline to be out of Iraq? The deadline is now and always has been Summer of 2010 and it still is.

You really ought to take strocube's advice about your meds dude. But then again on a slow night your version of world events do provide me with a little chuckle now and then...........

[tomscam]

TERROR €“ STRATEGY AND DIPLOMACY, NOT WAR

Even if we kill off every insurgent and terrorist-sympathizer from sea to shining sea, what will their kids be like? And theirs? Wake up. The major cause of terrorism is not evil, it's poverty. Michael Moore said it best after 9/11: "Will we ever get to the point that we realize that we will be more secure when the rest of the world isn't living in poverty so we can have nice running shoes?" What do we need an empire for anyway? Ever notice how much happier the British and Europeans are now that they don't have to worry about policing colonial empires anymore?

Many experts and heads of state, in the Middle East and beyond, agree that the best way by far to pull the rug out from under the terrorists and reduce their attacks dramatically is a just and humane resolution of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Israel's right to exist is threatened most by the fact that hardcore zealots are running the show on both the Palestinian and Israeli sides. If we don't have the courage to stand up to them, who will? As painful as withdrawal to Israel's pre-1967 borders will be, our future depends on it. So does Israel's. As Reagan said to Gorbachev, "Tear down this wall!"

[strocube]

Well said, Tomscam!

[Torurot]

How many new "terrorists" have been created due to their INNOCENT extended families being slaughtered by the USA & "friends". Put yourself in their shoes, would YOU want justice!!

[geezer]

There's no doubt relieveing poverty would definatly help reduce tensions but isn't Bin Laden from one of the richest families in Saudi Arabia?

[whore]

Some of you guys need your heads examined. The Koran says muslims should kill non believers, and thats us. All those terrorists call themselves Jihadists. Jihad as in holy war. Muslims versus non believers. If you got the Isreali and Gaza situation sorted out, reduced poverty worldwide, they would still want to kill westerners.

The bible says its an abomination for a Christian to eat shellfish. It also says women cant wear clothes made from more than one fabric. Am sure you will find Christians out there that follow the bible exactly. Sort of like a Christian extremist and you have muslim extremists who will follow the Koran exactly aswell, ie kill non believers.

Al Qaeda are muslim extremists. They just want to kill non believers or infidels as they like to call us. Nothing is going to change that. That failed Detroit bombing with the Al Qaeda guy trained in Yemen, if he was successful in his plot, with about what, 250 people on board that flight, that makes a couple of thousand family members came very close to finding out their loved ones have just been murdered on Christmas day.

If there was more people like Torurot back during WW2, I would be speaking German.

[tomscam]

(whore @ Feb. 06 2010,22:31) Some of you guys need your heads examined. The Koran says muslims should kill non believers, and thats us. All those terrorists call themselves Jihadists. Jihad as in holy war. Muslims versus non believers. If you got the Isreali and Gaza situation sorted out, reduced poverty worldwide, they would still want to kill westerners.

The bible says its an abomination for a Christian to eat shellfish. It also says women cant wear clothes made from more than one fabric. Am sure you will find Christians out there that follow the bible exactly. Sort of like a Christian extremist and you have muslim extremists who will follow the Koran exactly aswell, ie kill non believers.

Al Qaeda are muslim extremists. They just want to kill non believers or infidels as they like to call us. Nothing is going to change that.

Whore, where in the Koran does it tell Muslims to kills non-believers? I've heard people say this before but since you've done your research on this then maybe can can quote us the specific passage and detail the exact page where it states this. If you can't then you are simply talking out of your arse.

I have never read the Koran so I can't say either way whether it says this or not.


I am not a fan of Muslims at all, especially the way they treat women in their societies, their attitude towards homosexuality (that's us, yes you are all gay), and a whole raft of other issues which are in my opinion, draconian at best.

However I don't agree with interfering in the running of their countries and killing their leaders. This can only piss them off more. Obama is ham-strung by a political system which is run by corporations for corporations and therefore his power is limited.
G W Bush created this mess and now Obama has to fix it. He is up shit creek without a paddle because no matter what he does, it will be the wrong solution. The fact is that there is no solution to fixing this in the short term and the long term solution is too difficult for America to manage (Israel).

PS. What do all the GW Bush supporters think about Dubya's, and his zealot Christian mate's, opinions on homosexuality? Are you in agreement with the views that they hold towards you sucking a ladyboy's dick? Or is that ok because you are a closet homosexual who's in denial and you still go to church on Sunday?

[whore]

Whore, where in the Koran does it tell Muslims to kills non-believers?

Surah 9:5 verse

[whore]

I am not a fan of Muslims at all, especially the way they treat women in their societies, their attitude towards homosexuality (that's us, yes you are all gay), and a whole raft of other issues which are in my opinion, draconian at best.

Now your just talking out of your arse. There is a big difference between hardline muslim extremists and ordinary muslims living in Europe and the US. To date I have shagged 2 muslim ladyboys, would you not be a fan of them because their muslim?

However I don't agree with interfering in the running of their countries and killing their leaders. This can only piss them off more.

Please name these leaders that have been killed? and when you say "piss them off more" who do you mean by "them"?

[tomscam]

(whore @ Feb. 06 2010,23:34)

Whore, where in the Koran does it tell Muslims to kills non-believers?

Surah 9:5 verse  

9:5 When the sacred months are over slay the idolaters wherever you find them. Arrest them, besiege them, and lie in ambush everywhere for them. If they repent and take to prayer and render the alms levy, allow them to go their way. God is forgiving and merciful.


Well done whore! George would be proud of your research skills.

I'd never read this before, but in saying that I do have a life!

[guydesavoy]

(blonde_havoc @ Jan. 18 2010,05:32) What about the people who denigrated Bush in 2001 when he was barely into his term? Of course no one here is going to defend Bush, because most of the posters here are HUGE hypocrites when it comes to politics.

And for the record, I'm an Obama supporter.

Er, from memory Bush jnr needed no help there...  

And for the record, I'm a Nixon supporter  

"Even Richard Nixon has got soul...soul...."     (Neil Young)