Breaking News 7 Dead At Fort Hood

[BlueBallz]

Come on Smutts this guy spouts off those types of views and all of the people he worked with knew it. You telling me that PC had NOTHING to do with things?? I aint buying it. As far as Obama goes why doesnt he just pull out or scale down in Afghanistan?? He seems quite committed to that war. As far as Iraq goes, he said during the campaign he would pull out troops within 16 months-tick, tock, tick, tock. I said this in another thread-lets pull out troops ALL THROUGHOUT the world the Arabian Peninsula, Europe, Okinawa, and the Korean Peninsula as well. Afterall its all the USA'a fault and all we do is meddle. We all know that the Chinese and those peace loving North Koreans would be licking their collectie chops!!!

Its all the Presdents baby now. I say pull em all out IMMEDIATELY. But tell me this Smutss, what do we do when the Taleban come back and rule the roost in Afghanistan??

[paulj92]

got ya whats nieve about it please tell

[smuttleydfs]

(BlueBallz @ Nov. 08 2009,13:07) Come on Smutts this guy spouts off those types of views and all of the people he worked with knew it.  You telling me that PC had NOTHING to do with things??  I aint buying it.  As far as Obama goes why doesnt he just pull out or scale down in Afghanistan?? He seems quite committed to that war.  As far as Iraq goes, he said during the campaign he would pull out troops within 16 months-tick, tock, tick, tock.  I said this in another thread-lets pull out troops ALL THROUGHOUT the world the Arabian Peninsula, Europe, Okinawa, and the Korean Peninsula as well.  Afterall its all the USA'a fault and all we do is meddle.  We all know that the Chinese and those peace loving North Koreans would be licking their collectie chops!!!

Its all the Presdents baby now. I say pull em all out IMMEDIATELY.  But tell me this Smutss, what do we do when the Taleban come back and rule the roost in Afghanistan??

The Taliban IS roosting in Afghanistan BB and will be whether we are there or not the point of any buildup now is to keep them centralized there and not allow them to go into Pakistan and other regions.

As I stated before I have been in and around the military enough over the past 32 years to see where it was far from "political correctness" that kept Hasan in the military and more like military bureaucracy that kept him in. They had invested buku bucks on his ass and they weren't going to let all that money on training him go to waste.

Obama is "comitted" to the war in Afghanistan because your administration put them there 7 years ago without a fucking clue as to what the fuck they were going to do!!! Or with any exit strategy to be seen. Take off off your blinders and realize that BB. It is really fucking sad that after 10 months in office Obama the radical reich wing idiots assume that Obama owns all the ignorance predicated by the moronic administration that created these problems. If McJoke and I can see Russia from my back porch were to have taken office it would be even worse then what it is now.

To make naive statements about "pulling all troops" worldwide shows how desperate the rieich wing is because they are  becoming more insignificant as time goes one especially the radical ultra conservatives like the house seat in upstate NY. All it took fo the dems to win that seat was for a visit from Caribou Barbie to cinch the W for the dems


Drink a brew and watch some football BB because you need to think out your statements better before putting them out to ridicule      




 

[smuttleydfs]

(paulj92 @ Nov. 08 2009,13:21) got ya whats nieve  about it please tell

That would be "naive" and if you can't see it there isn't much hope

[kahuna]

(smuttleydfs @ Nov. 08 2009,23:28) You are way the fuck off base now BB...........it had absofuckinglutely nothing to do with "political correctness" and everything to do with total incompetence on the part of his chain of command

Call it whatever you like, but what I've been reading from those who witnessed his bizarre behavior didn't report him for fear of being accused of discrimination...Is that incompetence?

[smuttleydfs]

(kahuna @ Nov. 08 2009,13:45)

(smuttleydfs @ Nov. 08 2009,23:28) You are way the fuck off base now BB...........it had absofuckinglutely nothing to do with "political correctness" and everything to do with total incompetence on the part of his chain of command

Call it whatever you like, but what I've been reading from those who witnessed his bizarre behavior didn't report him for fear of being accused of discrimination...Is that incompetence?

I think you need to read a little closer Kahuna. It states that numerous classmates of his reported that they were upse with his "anti american" statments and allegations. This falls directly on his chain of command not "political correctness" that is a cop out to the tenth degree.

Had this been a PFC without the money put out in training him he would have been gone months ago.

[kahuna]

This is as close as I can read...I do agree that there is culpability on the part of the Army...
and I'm sure we will witness many congressional hearing exploring this subject...

"Danquah assumed the military's chain of command knew about Hasan's doubts, which had been known for more than a year to classmates at the Maryland graduate military medical program. His fellow students complained to the faculty about Hasan's "anti-American propaganda,"but said a fear of appearing discriminatory against a Muslim student kept officers from filing a formal complaint.

Danquah said he was disturbed by Hasan's persistent questioning but never told anyone at the sprawling Army post about the talks, because Hasan never expressed anger toward the Army or indicated any plans for violence."

[BlueBallz]

Fear of being accused of discrimination against a Muslim = Political Correctness.

No I dont drink at home by myself but I am watching football!!

[BlueBallz]

The only thing keeping the barbarians of the Taleban out of central control now is teh US Military. We pull out and there is a vacuum created, plain and simple. I certainly do not recall anyone objecting when we removed the Taleban from power starting in October 2001.

If the President escaltes the war in Afghanistan, how can you not say he doesnt actually AGREE with the last administration?? His actions would say so. BTW when the hell is he going to make a decision??

I dont see how you could use the argument that Obama is committed to the war in Afghanistan because of the previous administration. That doesnt make sense. Could he not do a 180 and forge his own policies or is he a slave to Bush's policies? I think the former and not the latter. Afterall, he (Obama) did say he was pulling out troops from Iraq in 16 months......We all know the President isnt a slimy politician, no siree....

[smuttleydfs]

(BlueBallz @ Nov. 08 2009,15:00) Fear of being accused of discrimination against a Muslim = Political Correctness.

No I dont drink at home by myself but I am watching football!!

One person's "political correctness" is another mans ignorance of the obvious. How do you explain as what was quoted on This Week this morning to General Casey that numerous fellow classmates reported the "anti American statements" to their superiors several months ago in Bethesda ? Was the ignoring of this "political correctness"? or just military bureaucracy? I would think with my knowledge of the military much more the latter then the former. Or it could be a product of the liberal media I suppose.

It was this soldiers's chain of command's duty to get this guy out of the military and they failed. The public will never see it but several Senior O5's and above will never see another promotion over this




 

[smuttleydfs]

(BlueBallz @ Nov. 08 2009,15:07) The only thing keeping the barbarians of the Taleban out of central control now is teh US Military.  We pull out and there is a vacuum created, plain and simple.  I certainly do not recall anyone objecting when we removed the Taleban from power starting in October 2001.

If the President escaltes the war in Afghanistan, how can you not say he doesnt actually AGREE with the last administration??  His actions would say so.  BTW when the hell is he going to make a decision??

I dont see how you could use the argument that Obama is committed to the war in Afghanistan because of the previous administration.  That doesnt make sense.  Could he not do a 180 and forge his own policies or is he a slave to Bush's policies?  I think the former and not the latter.  Afterall, he (Obama) did say he was pulling out troops from Iraq in 16 months......We all know the President isnt a slimy politician, no siree....

You can't see it BB because you refuse to remove the blinders. If he escalates he is merely doing what should have been done 8 years ago when Shinseki told Rumsfeld and Cheney the only way to win this was to go balls to the wall and solve the problem quickly like what should have been done in Vietnam 40 years ago. But instead because Shinseki was a Clinton apointee he was rebuked and forced into early retirement instead of becomng Charman Joint Chiefs of Staff as he should have been. instead they made an Air Force parrot the Chairman.

As far as" making a decision" I wold prefer thinking things out from all angles and making the correct decision to flying by the seat of his pants like dumbass dubya and making a "stupid" decision or "stupid" statement.

With the ignorant abject policies overseas that the US was comitted to by dumbass dubya and dickless cheney Obama by just yanking all troops out would create more chaos and insolvency that your grandchildren's grandchildren will still be trying to sort out.

Dumbass dubya created the biggest quagmire this world has seen since Hitler decided to create his all white, blonde haired blue eyed race and the reich wing is too stupid and naive to see this. Obama has had the keys to the worst broke down jalopy of a country and world situation turned over to since Lincoln was killed. If he recovers it halfway it will be miraculous.

[kathylc]

The end game will be the Major just snapped. It is not going to end any other way, or thre Army incriminates itself in ignoring this guy and his triades. Too many higher up heads would roll if it is ruled to be a terrorist act. Then again the bitch Pelosi and Reid hate miltary people so bad and anything that ever had to do with Bush they would push to make it a terrorist act even if it was not.

Be kind of hard to execute a mental case if he was judged to have snapped.

[smuttleydfs]

You actually had a good post going there for the first time kathylowclass until you started making ignorant statements about Pelosi and Reid "hating the military" you have no basis for such an ignorant statement and it shows your pathetic reich wing biases. As much as I despise the dumbass dubya administration and his chickenhawk bitches that made up his administration I would never make such a dumbass blanket statment about them

[lblavr]

it is hard to control those (mentally) sick people, practicing a sick religion.
already there is the outcry "...this is going to affect "good muslims"!
they are so tender and easily hurt:
but when it comes to blowing up themselves killing innocents, women (who mean nothing to them ,except as virgins in paradise or children, then...there is no outcry
some have got citizenship of any country,some are waiting to get it.
they should not be accepted,except with a return stamp in their face.
when their "umma" means more to them then the country they found refuge in ( why else do they want to come to our countries),let them leave .
every day I have to undress myself on security checkpoints around this world because of that sick religion and they disgust me more and more.
following an article of an Australian news paper

AUSTRALIA ANYONE?


Muslims who want to live under Shariah law were told on Wednesday to get out of Australia, as the government targeted radicals in a bid to head off potential terror attacks. A day after a group of mainstream Muslim leaders pledged loyalty to Australia and her queen at a special meeting with Prime Minister John Howard. He and his ministers made it clear that extremists would face crack down. Treasurer Peter Costello, seen as heir apparent to Howard, hinted that some clerics could be asked to leave the country if they did not accept that Australia was a secular state and its laws were made by parliament." If those are not your values, if you want a country that has Shariah law or a theocratic state, then Australia is not for you." He said on national television. "I'd be saying to clerics who are teaching that there are 2 laws governing people in Australia ne the Australian law and another Islamic law that is false. If you can't agree with parliamentary law, independent courts, democracy and would prefer Shariah law and have the opportunity to go to another country, which practices it, perhaps , then, that's a better option," Costello said
Asked whether he meant radical clerics would be forced to leave, he said those with dual citizenship could possibly be asked to move to another country. Education minister Brendan nelson later told reporters that muslins who did not want to accept local values should "clear off" basically people who don't want to be Australians and who don't want to live by Australian values and understand them, well then, they can basically clear off, he said, separately. Howard agreed some Australian Muslim on Wednesday by saying he supported spy agencies monitoring the nations mosques
Quote:
"IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS MUST ADAPT
Take it or leave it. I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individuals or their culture ."
Since the terrorist attacks on Bali, we have experienced a surge of patriotism by the majority of Australians.
"However the dust from the attacks had barely settled when the politically correct crowd began complaining about then possibility that our patriotism was offending others, I am not against immigration nor do I hold a grudge against anyone who is seeking a better life by coming to Australia. "However a few things that those who have recently come to our country and apparently some born here need to understand.: This idea of Australia being a multicultural community has served only to dilute our sovereignty and our national identity. And as Australians we have our OWN CULTURE, OUR OWN SOCIETY and OUR OWN LANGUAGE and OUR OWN LIFESTYLE. This culture has been developed over 2 centuries of struggles, trials and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom. We speak meanly English, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian or any other language
Therefore if you wish to become part of our society: Learn our language. Most Australians believe in god. This is not some Christian right wing political push but a fact, because Christian men and women on Christian principles founded this nation and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If god offends you then I suggest an other part of this world as your new home, because god is part of our culture
We will accept your beliefs and will not question why.
All that we ask is to accept ours and live in harmony and peaceful enjoyment with us. " If the Southern Cross offends you or you don't like a " fair go" then you should seriously consider to move to another part of this planet, we are happy with out culture and have no desire to change and we really don't care how you did things where you came from. By all means keep your culture but do not force it on others. This is Our Country, Our Land and Our Lifestyle and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you are done complaining, whining and griping about our flag, or pledge our Christian beliefs or our way of life I highly encourage you to take advantage of one another great Australian freedom :"The Right To Leave".
If you aren't happy here then leave.
We did not force you to come here.
You asked to be here.
So accept the country you accepted.
Maybe we will circulate this amongst ourselves.
Citizens will find the backbone to start speaking and voicing the same truths.

[smuttleydfs]

"Mentally sick people practicing a sick religion"


Quite the open minded one aintcha...............Guess seeing as you are a LBlover if someone was to call you sick person who likes to suck cocks in a sick perverse way that would be OK with you

pathetic