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(pacman @ Oct. 24 2009,22:13) why did Oswald have to be killed?
why have so many people who were there that day hunted down & killed?
A patriotic Kennedy-lover took him out; same as if Obama were assasinated and someone who loved him went to the station and did the same thing. Hell, even Ruby and his brother said he wasn't involved in any type of a conspiracy; and yet you still believe he was sent there by some unknown forces [remember, non one has yet named a suspect; except me] to take him out. "Oh, we won't believe Ruby or his family, we only believe in unproven rumours!'' Beyond funny.
''why have so many people who were there that day hunted down & killed?''
Names please......
Who were these people? Which people were hunted down and killed? You know so much about this case, you MUST have at least the names of these people who were ''hunted down and killed'', yes?
Oh, you mean the people in the Oliver Stone FICTIONAL film about the assasination?
You may as well watch a Simpsons episode about the assasination, it would be just as credible.Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
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(pacman @ Oct. 24 2009,22:28) How about this one - what was Oswald's motive for killing the President?
and it worked ! People like you are still discussing this 46 years later when the case was solved that very day.
Ruby gained entry into the Dalas police station that day because he owned a strip club and a lot of his patrons were cops; they knew him and he just walked into the station as he did on many days; he was even photographed there the day before he shot Oswald; he was stewing for days about the assasination and took his chance and shot him, plain and simple.
Siiiggghhhh...... conspiracy theories are fun, but this one has become just plain boring ..... everything brought forth in this thread has been re-hashed since I was a wee lad, and yet not one shred of it has been proven and of course no one yet has named a person or group responsible. I will stick with Oswald and will never waiver, you guys stick with your conspiracies and please, do keep trying to come up with a name; I already have mine.Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
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Jai Dee-I have already gave you at least one name-David Morales(CIA) Here are another 2. Frank Sturgis and E Howard Hunt(only a benchwarmer,by his own admission)Both in the nixon dirty ops team who burgled Watergate.Have you googled those leads i gave you JD,or are you one of those people who never listen,only wait to talk? You have based your entire post on a discredited book by gerald posner.You still have not answered the questions i have asked you in my posts,namely,why Oswald let Kennedy drive by before shooting,why the zapruder film clearly shows kennedy 's head being thrown backwards with the force of the kill shot,why the audio recordings say there is 95% probability of a second shooter-oh,and finally the American Senate House Comitee saying there was a probable conspiracy to kill JFK.Even an organ of Government like the Senate House Commitee ,which must be under a lot of pressure to toe the official line reached that verdict.-Can you explain how they reached that verdict?Perhaps they havent read the book (sic) you have.
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(JaiDee @ Oct. 25 2009,22:28) ''why have so many people who were there that day hunted down & killed?''
Names please......
Who were these people? Which people were hunted down and killed? You know so much about this case, you MUST have at least the names of these people who were ''hunted down and killed'', yes?
Oh, you mean the people in the Oliver Stone FICTIONAL film about the assasination?
I lived through all the allegations about JFK's assassination. It has been many, many years since I last read anything about it so all my memories I had to dig up from long ago.
I expected others here would have been as familiar with the theories as I. Apparantly not. Travis Bickle & Lefty have offered some good points but like some CIA attack dog, JaiDee has mocked any attempt to suggest that there has been a cover-up.
Asking me for names prompted me to google this subject & there were all the alternative ideas that had currency at various times. Even I can see how ludicrous it is to suggest that the CIA, the Mafia, the Russians & Castro all played a part in the assassination.
I spent some a little time reading some of them. J. Edgar Hoover had Oswald under watch & wrote a memo BEFORE the assassination that he believed someone had taken over his identity.
Hmmmm, so what if Oswald did it but it wasn't him in the Book Depository? A good reason to shoot him before he could talk I suppose.
And LBJ is there too. I love this theory. It has it all. Hours before he was shot, he told Governor Connally's wife that Kennedy would never humiliate him again. His aide at the time, Howard Hunt made a deathbed confession to his son that LBJ had colluded with the CIA to get rid of JFK.
And who is better placed to allow a "shoot the witnesses" campaign than the President? Plus the CIA now had something on Johnson. There was no carve-up of the CIA under LBJ.
All good stories but without proof that is now impossible to ascertain, nothing will satisfy the JaiDee's of this world.
As I wrote earlier, I am not emotionally wedded to any conspiracy theory. But I do believe that if there was nothing to it, all the chatter would have died down long ago. That it continues to this day is my proof that people who were there, did talk. They wanted others to know that it was never so simple as it seemed.Despite the high cost of living, it continues to be popular.
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Here are a few names I found. There are longer lists around but these will do for a start.
Dead witnesses
Investigations have been thwarted by the number of material witnesses who died in the first few years after the assassination and in periods of renewed interest in the case during the 1970s.
... many key witnesses ... died at strategically important moments. Here are a few of the more interesting cases:
* Gary Underhill, a CIA agent who claimed the CIA was involved in the JFK assassination, died of a gun shot to the head in May 1964. H is death was ruled a suicide.
* Guy Banister, a former FBl agent and acquaintance of Oswald, died of an apparent heart attack in June 1964. Files containing information on his anti-Castro activities were missing by the time authorities reached his office.
* Mary Meyer, a mistress of JFK's during the White House years and the estranged wife of CIA veteran Cord Meyer, was murdered in October 1964 in a park in Washington, DC. Cord Meyer was a fishing companion of CIA counter-intelligence chief, James Jesus Angleton, who seized Meyer's diary after her death.
* C.D. Jackson, senior vice president of Life magazine, died of unknown causes in September 1964. Jackson arranged for Life to buy the Zapruder film soon after the Dealey Plaza shooting and then locked it away. (The film was not widely seen by the public until it was shown on ABC's Goodnight America in 1975.)
* Rose Cheramie, a prostitute and striptease dancer in Ruby's Dallas nightclub, died in a Texas hit-and-run accident in September 1965. Two days before the assassination, she told police in Louisiana she overheard two Latin men plotting to kill the president.
* Dorothy Kilgallen, a prominent columnist and TV personality, was ruled a suicide by drug overdose in November 1965. She had just completed a lengthy interview of Ruby in prison and told friends privately that she was about to "break" the JFK case.
* David Ferrie, a militant anti-Castroite and associate of Oswald and Banister, died of an apparent brain embolism in February 1967. He was just about to be arraigned for conspiracy in the JFK assassination by New Orleans District Attorney Jim Garrison, whose investigation convinced him that the CIA was involved.
* Eladio Del Valle, a friend and political comrade of Ferrie's, was shot at close range the day after Ferrie's death. Garrison had been trying to find Del Valle for questioning.
* Hale Boggs, House majority leader and a member of the Warren Commission, was killed in a plane crash in Alaska in 1972. He had begun to express public doubts about the Warren Commission's findings.
* J.A. Milteer, the far-right Miami activist, died when his heater exploded in February 1974. As mentioned above, he predicted an attempt on JFK's life and the capture of a scapegoat shortly before events in Dealey Plaza-and a man looking a lot like him was picked up by the police that November afternoon.
* Clay Shaw, whom Garrison brought to trial as a prime suspect in a JFK conspiracy, died of cancer in August 1974. Unable to prove Shaw's CIA connections, Garrison saw him acquitted in 1969. But just a year after Shaw's death, a high-level CIA defector, Victor Marchetti, confirmed Shaw's ties to the agency.
* Sam Giancana, Mafia boss of Chicago, was shot to death in the basement of his home while in the Federal Witness Protection Program in June 1975. At the time of his murder, Giancana was scheduled to testify to the Senate Intelligence Committee on the ClA's alliance with the Mafia in an attempt to kill Castro.
* John Roselli, a Mafia lieutenant of Giancana's, was dismembered, stuffed into an oil drum and dropped into the ocean off Miami in July 1976. Roselli was the Mafia's contact man for its assassination projects with the CIA and was scheduled for a second appearance before the Senate Intelligence Committee when he was killed.
* George de Mohrenschildt, who befriended Oswald in Dallas, was found dead of a gunshot wound, deemed self-inflicted, in March 1977. Two hours before his death, an investigator for the House Assassinations Committee came to interview him about the JFK case, but de Mohrenschildt was not at home. In a manuscript found afterwards, de Mohrenschildt supported Oswald's view of himself as "a patsy."
* Charles Nicoletti, also on the House Committee's witness list, was shot three times in the back of the neck in the parking lot of a suburban Chicago shopping center in March 1977-less than 48 hours after de Mohrenschildt's death. Nicoletti was said to have been a "handler" (that is, supervisor) of Mafia assassins in the ClA-Mafia plots.
* Carlos Prio Socarras, a president of pre-revolutionary Cuba, was found dying of a pistol shot in April 1977, just six days after Nicoletti was gunned down. Prio's death was ruled a suicide. He, too, was on the House Committee's witness list because of his alleged links to Jack Ruby and anti-Castro Cuban militants.
We may never know for sure if these key witnesses were murdered to keep them silent. But there is no doubt these deaths have significantly hindered the official investigations and the public's understanding of what took place at Dealey Plaza on November 22, 1963.Despite the high cost of living, it continues to be popular.
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Get back here ya coward...
I think the topic has run its course & we can call it a draw.
I would be happy if we made a few people think about JFK's tragic murder. I am sure Ted Kennedy had access to more info than we ever will.
Now... isn't anyone going to ask me about Marilyn Monroe? (see earlier post)Despite the high cost of living, it continues to be popular.
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(JaiDee @ Oct. 26 2009,18:31) OK, you guys have convinced me!
U.S. military caused the 2004 Indian Ocean Tsunami
Popular Arab news services claim the U.S. and Indian militaries deliberately caused the Indian Ocean tsunamis with electromagnetic pulse technology.
Another type of theory bases its claims on oil and gas interests. Others also reason that the technology is at least feasible if not highly probable since
research into such technology has been conducted by the military as far back as World War II.
The Nazis had a Moon Base
Esoteric Hitlerists and conspiracy theorists interested in Nazi mysticism and World War II have speculated that the Germans landed on the Moon as early as 1942.
According to other theories it is believed that the Nazis had made contact with 'half a dozen' alien races, including the malevolent Reptilians.
Kentucky Fried Chicken makes black men impotent
It is sometimes claimed that the Kentucky Fried Chicken franchise is owned by the Ku Klux Klan, and the chicken is laced with a drug that makes only black men impotent.
Ironically, the KFC franchise is actually owned by an African-American."It's not Gay if you beat them up afterwards." --- Anon
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(kahuna @ Oct. 26 2009,13:47) Esoteric Hitlerists and conspiracy theorists interested in Nazi mysticism and World War II have speculated that the Germans landed on the Moon as early as 1942.
According to other theories it is believed that the Nazis had made contact with 'half a dozen' alien races, including themalevolent ReptiliansImminence frontForgot how this forum works
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