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  • George Sodini- kills women at gym

    This chic seems to think any single lad who hates sex and the city is a potential killer !

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    Observer


    Women weren't to blame for George Sodini's spree...

    George Sodini cited rejection by women as the reason for his attack on a Pittsburgh gym that left three dead last week. It's becoming a dangerous manifesto for some men

    By Barbara Ellen


    The idea of George Sodini, the 48-year-old systems analyst who shot dead three women, and wounded nine others, after randomly opening fire at a Latin dance class in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, is terrifying. For obvious reasons €“ he shot women dead in a gym €“ but also because details emerging from blogs he posted reveal him to be symbolic of a subculture of male rage that, despite all evidence to the contrary, blames women (dominating women, contemptuous women, icy women, just plain uninterested women) for everything bad that happens to them.

    According to Sodini, he was a "total malfunction". No girlfriend since 1984. No sex since 1990, "rejected by 30 million" (his estimate of how many desirable single women exist). "Who knows why?" wrote Sodini. "I am not ugly or too weird." Really? Some might say that weird is a tame way to describe the act of driving to a gym to shoot people.

    "Girls and women don't give me a second look anywhere," wrote Sodini. With these words, he could be another George Costanza, the Everyman sexual loser in Seinfeld, complaining to Jerry in their local diner. Indeed, elsewhere, video footage shows Sodini sitting in "rapt attention" at dating seminars. Another time, another context, a very "Costanza" thing to do.

    What is happening here? Were the horrific events in Pittsburgh some kind of singleton Columbine? Instead of misfit, loner, high-school kids stalking corridors killing classmates, misfit, middle-aged dating reject guns down women at salsa classes because he isn't getting laid? Or is it bigger and weirder than that? Is Sodini an extreme example of a more widespread subliminal male rage, that can take many forms, but shares a common thread €“ it is all women's fault?

    Male rage does have a habit of popping up. Hardly a week seems to go by without inordinate amounts of venom and scorn being aimed in the direction of prominent female politicians. Elsewhere, I have noticed a distinct increase in musings on how over-assertive women only have ourselves to blame if our men are weak and emasculated. We have outmanned and unmanned them €“ what bitches we are! This isn't even counting the drear that's always there, especially on the internet, from bitter rantings on divorce sites, to full-throttle misogyny on openly women-hating sites. And now we have Sodini on his blogs and videos, blaming all his ills on a dominant mother (the ultimate male rage target) and the "30 million" who rejected him.

    It all goes to prove it's not the dick-swingers women should be afraid of €“ the ignored man, the unsuccessful man, can be the most dangerous on all. But this is not the whole story. Something has to explain how female dating failure leads to Bridget Jones, while for men the same road can lead to George Sodini.

    It makes you wonder what these raging males want €“ a mass apology from womankind for being assertive and for not particularly fancying them? Are we actually supposed to placate and appease the kind of man who signs off a blog with the cheery cry: "Death lives!"

    Sodini could be classed as just a random psychopath. In some ways, that's comforting. Far better that than the idea that for some men out there this kind of thing is becoming a distinct manifesto. The dark paradox is that if Sodini felt his social status was demeaned by his lack of success with women, he probably wasn't even shooting at the correct gender. It's men who tend to torture other men about status, just as women tend to torture other women about body image. Therefore, it's men, not women, who were responsible for Sodini's misery. In the meantime, women should be aware: male rage is dangerous and may be more widespread than you think. Be careful who you don't fancy.

    The unhealthy truth about health foods

    I recall trotting along to the Whole Foods flagship store in west London, then trotting straight out when I saw the prices. However much one coveted thimble-sized punnets of organic gooseberries or gluten-free, salt-free, indeed bread-free rolls (just the thing for Trudie Styler at a finger buffet), the desire to avoid bankruptcy proved stronger.

    Unsurprising, then, to learn that Whole Foods has not been doing so well, having so far written off £50m in its attempt to establish itself in Britain. It's rather more baffling to hear Whole Foods boss, John Mackey, choosing this moment to lament that the stores sell "junk", saying efforts would be made to educate people with information kiosks, food books and cooking classes.

    "We used to think it was enough to sell healthy food," said Mackey, "but we know it is not enough. We sell all kinds of candy. We sell a bunch of junk." Oh dear. Is this the organic food industry's Ratner moment?

    What "junk"? Are fat people rolling in the aisles gorging on carob bars and spelt crisps? More pertinently, how atrocious is Mackey's timing? Everywhere you look, people are turning away from ethics and quality, back towards price and bulk and Mackey thinks this is the time to announce that his health food emporiums intend to be even less accessible?

    I'm not surprised. People cast vegetarians as worthy tub-thumpers, but often we just don't eat meat and that's that. Most of us are too weak and lacking in vitamin B to take it any further. It's the omnivores who have the energy to preach, guide and bully, sometimes to good effect. At other times, like this, they exhibit no common sense at all.

    Instead of cooking classes, perhaps Mackey could consider lowering his prices. He could also accept that, if the health food movement is going to survive in any mainstream way, it probably has to morph into the "healthier" food movement, with good intentions all around, but with commercial compromises viewed as inevitable. A Tesco Finest kind of approach. If they manage all that, the yoghurt-coated raisins are on me.

    Do us a favour, boys, and keep your holiday snaps for the family

    Oh, sunny Siberia, I wish I was there. Not that I need to be, what with Vladimir Putin's holiday snaps to admire. This year, my favourite is of him topless on horseback, the wind in his strangely non-existent chest hair. Others prefer the ones of him breaking sticks to make fire, his holiday villa presumably being a bit parky of an evening. Still others may be wondering why we are being lumbered with Putin's holiday photographs at all or, indeed, any other famous person.

    I think we are agreed that there are few things duller, more dreaded, than other people's holiday pics. And that inflicting your photographs on acquaintances is about as welcome as relating your dreams. Why then the current culture of the omnipresent holiday snap?

    Don't get me wrong: Vlad's booty shots are always welcome, but that's a year-round thing. Recently, we've had too many photos of Simon Cowell looking taramasalata pink in Barbados, Ulrika flashing her post-plastic surgery "16 again!" body, and Katie Price getting what appear to be "piggy fronts" from any passing male on the beach.

    Didn't it used to be only pushy neighbours who got away with this kind of impertinence? Even then, after people had begged for death in their living rooms, enduring interminable slide shows of sunburnt Brits shaking maracas, they were likely to be rewarded with chicken kiev and a glass of pomagne. What do we get for enduring famous people's endless tedious holiday snaps? Nothing. So enough. It's tiring enough deleting our own ghastly holiday snaps.

  • #2
    It's an interesting article and I can't find a reason to disagree with it.

    I think that the problem for most men is they simply can't get decent sexual partners and decent sexual experiences.

    Having good sex with a perfect woman fills your life and all the other stuff (hobbie, work and eating) is there to fill in time in between.

    The problem is that if you are NOT getting this the there's an awful lot of time to fill!

    The internet has exposed us to perfect sex and perfect partners and for most men they all are out of reach or pure fantasy.

    What happens next is a welling of frustration...

    You see all this great sex and you see all these great sexual partners but for most they can never feel, never touch and never enjoy them.

    Most of us seem to be happy enough with online porn as a substitute for the real thing. In fact often times the fantasy turns out to be better than the real thing, but that's another discussion.

    Some of us even go as far as treating ourselves to the real thing by finding and paying for these experiences which so enrich and lengthen our lives.

    (Yes, I believe a sexually satisfied man lives a lot longer than one that is not.)

    Some seem to live long satisfying lives with lots of great sex and great relationships with women... Hugh Hefner, TheGame925, etc...

    In the past the pool of talent was limited to our neighborhoods and the best girls we could imagine wore aprons and did the ironing.

    Not so anymore...

    And if you are NOT getting the attention you think you deserve (as was the case of George Sodini) then over the course of a few years eventually the futility of your life is gonna catch up with you and someone is going to get the blame for it!

    The legalization of prostitution has done a lot to take the stress off a lot of men, but the fanatical countries who pretend that sex doesn't exist are just ripe for brewing a cauldron of unneeded and unloved men.

    In America (and other places) you can add religion to the mix as they are forced to go through the charade of God fearing holiness from a very young age. This doesn't prepare you well for rational decision making when you get older.

    Just my two cents!

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    • #3
      It may be true but I find it hard to use the actions of a lunatic to justify anything. Sodini was a fuck head who should have done the decent thing and blown his brains out in the comfort of his own home. We should not try and rationalise his thoughts anymore than we should use him as an example of men.
      Beer Baron

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      • #4

        I can understand the ludic wish to try out the ultimate taboo (i.e. killing others) before switching the lights off.

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        • #5


          Now that is really scary

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          • #6
            (manarak @ Aug. 12 2009,03:00)
            I can understand the ludic wish to try out the ultimate taboo (i.e. killing others) before switching the lights off.
            Fine go do that cruise off Somalia where they try and get attacked by pirates and then shoot the shit out them, at least there everyone knows the score. God knows you'd be doing the world a favour then. But to shoot up a gym where no one is capable of defending themselves is the work of a coward plain and simple.
            Beer Baron

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            • #7
              Evidently there are a lot of folks out there just looking for an excuse to blow their own brains out or make a name for themselves but really not "man" enough to do it themselves without a better self induced reason and getting more hyped up about it. Shoot and kill a few folks as he did probably got him all hyped up and stimulated to thre max so blowing his own bit of grey matter out came easier as he knew he could not do time in a prison.

              I often hear folks say .best theing so and so can hope for is that I am not ever diagnosed with cancer or a terminal disease. As much as they want to harm some person they do not have the ability to do it without having an out in the end even if it is death from a disease.

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              • #8
                It makes you wonder what these raging males want €“ a mass apology from womankind for being assertive and for not particularly fancying them? Are we actually supposed to placate and appease the kind of man who signs off a blog with the cheery cry: "Death lives!"
                i must say this is a classic line

                The legalization of prostitution has done a lot to take the stress off a lot of men, but the fanatical countries who pretend that sex doesn't exist are just ripe for brewing a cauldron of unneeded and unloved men.
                very good point Stogie...
                Perhaps all killing in some way boils down to repressed sexuality...

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                • #9
                  Americans as a whole could not handle having prostitution legalized the same as most could not handle sex shops in their town or even state, legalized drugs etc. They say Brits are so stiff lipped, but Americans are so uptight. I would not bve afraid to bet that if prostitution was legalized it would put more of a strain on most american men and create higher crime just because of the general society that we Americans are.

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                  • #10
                    The ironic thing is he'll get lots of nutty women writing to him now in jail wanting to marry him .

                    Serial killers and loonies looking attention always seem to attract the like minded of the opposite sex .

                    Free your mind and your ass will follow .

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                    • #11
                      Sordonis blog,

                      doni

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                      • #12
                        (jimslim @ Aug. 14 2009,01:20) The ironic thing is he'll get lots of nutty women writing to him now in jail wanting to marry him .
                        Only if they hold a seance...He's dead...
                        "It's not Gay if you beat them up afterwards."  --- Anon

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                        • #13

                          I didn't realise that , that could complicate matters a little .
                          Free your mind and your ass will follow .

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                          • #14
                            no pomplem - me like dead man. Suuuuure - what for I lie?
                            No honey, no money!!

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