The British National Party

[mister_smith]

(anthony70 @ May 23 2009,19:03) im thinking or starting a "white roofers association". see how long that lasts.

Well if you start a White Woofers Association you'll probably get council funding

[Stogie]

An American's Perspective!



If only the British media were that neutral and intelligent!

[seamus]

(seamus @ Apr. 16 2009,18:13)

(jimslim @ Apr. 15 2009,16:37) homosexuality banned , their mentor Adolph Hitler sent gays to the gas chambers with a big pink star on their coats .

Lucky we are all straight on this site then  

So if they do get in, does this mean I have to feck off back to ireland  

Well all the parties have been doing their "party political broadcasts" on the old box.
Well to My surprise We fall into the "your alright jack" category.
I'm fooked though as I have a Indonesian LB GF

[seamus]

(mister_smith @ May 23 2009,09:23) I think your dreams of a 100% White Aryan Utopia aint gonna happen anytime soon  

Thank God for that
& lets be honest, will it ever happen, not a chance in hell, thank fook

Like the way I got religion in there twice if ya gonna talk about politics, lets throw a little religion in there for good measure, stir the shite a little more

[jimslim]

(seamus @ May 30 2009,13:42) Well to My surprise We  fall into the "your alright jack" category.

One of the strangest policies I've ever read , apparently Eire and Ulster will form a confederation of the British Isles , priceless

A united Ireland in reverse if you will , only with the south joining the UK ,even the political loonies in Ireland have never thought of that one .

[Guest]

Anyone in any doubt about what these people are like could always check this out:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politic....-expose

Or you can simply read on...

Prominent members of the British National party are today revealed as Nazi-sympathisers and racists with abhorrent views on such diverse issues as teenage violence, David Beckham and even David Cameron's deceased son, Ivan.

The revelations undermine the party's attempts to paint itself in a more moderate light before the local and European elections and threaten to derail the electoral ambitions of its leader, Nick Griffin, who is standing as a prospective MEP.

At a time when BNP activists are claiming a surge in support in the polls, a reflection, they say, of mounting public outrage over MPs' expenses, the party has been keen to portray itself as a viable alternative to mainstream political parties.

The BNP website boasts that money is flooding into its campaign headquarters. Its administration consultant, Jim Dowson, claims the party's call centre alone received just under 12,000 calls in the first 15 minutes following the BNP's first national television broadcast. And in emails to supporters - or "patriots" as the BNP calls them - Griffin claims almost £400,000 has been stumped up by supporters to help fund the party's European election campaign.

It claims the apparent groundswell in support is down to the "British public waking from the long, deep sleep". Much of the BNP's recent success has been down to its ability to shake off the patina of far-right extremism that has alienated most voters since its inception. But this month the veneer slipped when it emerged that a Salford-based BNP candidate in the European elections had set his Facebook status to read "Wogs go home". Eddy O'Sullivan, 49, wrote: "They are nice people - oh yeah - but can they not be nice people in the fucking Congo or... bongo land or whatever?" O'Sullivan, who also joined an internet group called "Fuck Islam", denied that the comments were racist and insisted they were made in private conversations between individuals. "I also may have had a drink at the time," he added.

Amid the furore, the BNP's leaders promised an investigation into O'Sullivan's comments. The party's officials also circulated urgent emails urging its members that "particular care should be taken when making comments on chat forums and other sites such as Facebook. Do not make the mistake of thinking that comments posted on these sites are secret or hidden. Making inappropriate comments on these sites will be regarded as a very serious disciplinary offence. Please ensure that this message is passed quickly to all members in your area and that it is acted upon. We are entering a very critical time in our party's history and cannot afford careless and stupid talk that can undermine the hard work of our activists."

But the anti-fascist organisation Searchlight has spent months infiltrating the far right's network of websites and chatrooms and found that many BNP activists share O'Sullivan's views.

They include:

€¢ Jeffrey Marshall, senior organiser for the BNP's London European election campaign. Following the death of David Cameron's disabled son Ivan, Marshall claimed in an internet forum discussion: "We live in a country today which is unhealthily dominated by an excess of sentimentality towards the weak and unproductive. No good will come of it."

Later, in response to comments made by others on the site, Marshall is alleged to have written: "There is not a great deal of point in keeping these people alive after all." He said the comments were private and some had been paraphrased and taken out of context. He admitted making the former comment, but said he could not recall making the latter one in an email to the forum, a copy of which is in the Observer's possession.

€¢ Garry Aronsson, Griffin's running mate for the European parliament in the North West, posts an avatar on his personal web page featuring a Nazi SS death's head alongside the statement, "Speak English Or Die!" Aronsson proclaims on the site: "Every time you change your way of life to make immigrants more comfortable you betray OUR future!" He lists his hobbies as "devising slow and terrible ways of paying back the Guardian-reading cunts who have betrayed the British people into poverty and slavery. I AM NOT JOKING."

€¢ Barry Bennett, MEP candidate for the South West, posted several years ago under a pseudonym in a white supremacist forum the bizarre statement that "David Beckham is not white, he's a black man." Bennett, who is half-Jewish according to the BNP's deputy leader, Simon Darby, continued: "Beckham is an insult to Britishness, and I'm glad he's not here." He added: "I know perfectly respectable half-Jews in the BNP... even Hitler had honorary Aryans who were of Jewish descent... so whatever's good enough for Hitler's good enough for me. God rest his soul."

€¢ Russ Green, MEP candidate for the West Midlands, posted recently on Darby's web page: "If we allowed Indians, Africans, etc to join [the BNP], we would become the 'British multi-National party' ... and I really do hope that never happens!" Darby said he echoed Green's sentiments.

€¢ Dave Strickson, a BNP organiser who helps run its eastern region European election campaign, carried on his personal "Thurrock Patriots" blog a recent report of the fatal stabbing of a teenager in east London beneath the words "Another teen stabbed in Coon Town". The site also carried a mock-up racist version of the US dollar entitled "Obama Wog Dollar". Darby said the BNP did not endorse these comments and described them as "beyond the pale".

When confronted in the past about the extreme views of some of its members, the BNP senior hierarchy has often tried to dismiss them as unrepresentative of the party's core membership. But it appears that they run right to the top of the party.

Lee Barnes, the BNP's senior legal officer and one of Griffin's closest allies, has posted a video on his personal blog of a black suspect being beaten by police officers in the US and describes it as "brilliant". Barnes adds: "The beating of Rodney King still makes me laugh."

Barnes told the Observer his comments were "nothing to do with colour" but were merely a reflection of his belief that the police should have more powers to punish perpetrators of crime by "giving them a good thrashing".

But anti-fascist groups said such comments portrayed the BNP in its true light. "This is the face of the modern BNP," said a spokesman for Searchlight. "The comments of Nick Griffin's candidates and officials are sickening beyond belief. They have tried to hide their agenda of racism and hate from the voters, and they have failed."

Separately, concerns exist about the historic links between the BNP and extremist groups. Gary Pudsey, a BNP organiser running the Yorkshire and Humber campaign, was once a regular at National Front meetings. A young Pudsey was also photographed with the late Max Waegg, a Nazi second world war pilot who wrote articles for the white supremacist magazine Spearhead

Martin Page is a BNP treasurer and his wife Kim is a senior fundraiser for the party. Both have been photographed alongside Benny Bullman, the lead singer of Whitelaw, the white supremacist band whose songs include Fetch the Noose, We're Coming for You and For White Pride.

And Dowson, the BNP's senior administrator, who appears on the party's website talking about the success of its call centre's fundraising activities, has also been dogged by allegations that he has enjoyed close relationships with hardline loyalist groups in the past. The 45-year-old has also been the public face of the LifeLeague, the militant anti-abortion group that has hijacked Britain's pro-life debate. He has regularly appeared on television to pronounce terminations a sin and has published the names of abortion clinic staff, placing many in fear for their personal safety.

That the BNP has become a magnet for extreme-right sympathisers is understandable given Griffin's own background. The Cambridge graduate was himself a member of the NF before going on to form the International Third Position, a neo-fascist organisation with links to the Italian far right.

But aware of the party's need to raise funds from middle England, Griffin has repeatedly attempted to portray his party as the "reasonable" face of patriotism in its bid to broaden its appeal. The approach has paid dividends, with the party having gained 55 seats on local councils, including a seat on the Greater London Authority. This June it is contesting every UK seat at the European elections and there have been predictions it could win overall control of Stoke City Council.

Darby, Griffin's deputy and the BNP's spokesman, accused Searchlight of "distorting the BNP's message" in a bid to derail its political ambitions. He accused the organisation of being "merely a front for the Labour party, paid for by National Lottery funds". Darby said: "When you put it in the context of what's been happening at Westminster, a few scribblings on Facebook hardly seems something to get worried about."
Previous convictions

Nick Griffin, convicted of violating section 19 of the Public Order Act 1986, relating to incitement to racial hatred. He received a nine-month prison sentence, suspended for two years.

Kevin Scott, a BNP supporter and former North East regional organiser, has convictions for assault and threatening behaviour.

Terry Collins, a party member, was jailed for five years after waging a year-long terror campaign against Asian families in Eastbourne.

Joe Owens, a former Merseyside BNP candidate and bodyguard to Nick Griffin, served eight months for sending razor blades to Jewish people and another term for carrying CS gas and knuckledusters.

Colin Smith, former BNP south-east London organiser, has 17 convictions for burglary, theft, stealing cars, possession of drugs and assaulting a police officer.

Tony Lecomber, a former BNP propaganda director, was jailed in 1985 after a nail bomb exploded as he carried it to the Workers' Revolutionary party offices. Jailed again in 1991 for assaulting a Jewish teacher on the Underground.

I'm sure there will be the usual "Ah, yes, but what can you expect from The Guardian?" comments, but they have simply found real comments (in context).
Being a big fan of free speech, I really enjoy the fact that it is their own words that have them hoist on their own petard, particularly as freedom of speech wouldn't last very long under these feckers. Thankfully, Britons are far too sensible to allow that nightmare to happen. Well, fingers crossed they are...

[Stogie]

The Guardian, you say? Well that crucible of truth has me turned around on the whole BNP deal, now!

Imagine... being marginalized for wanting to be British - but worse... wanting others who live in Britain to feel the same way!

The BNP will weather the storm of the hysterical press and scared politicians and come out of this just fine thanks...

I mean; what's the alternative? Labour?

If ever your rights were ever eroded in a generation then just look at the 'honourable' imbeciles currently in office!

[Torurot]

This will get the Stogie frothing!
Britain leads world in police state survey
Gold medals for snooping, spying and surveilling
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/06/01/snooping_poll/
By John Ozimek €¢ Posted in Policing, 1st June 2009 11:05 GMT

Comments are good
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/06...poll/comments/

[allstar88]

did anyone know there is an english national party?

[BlueBallz]

Ok forgive me, I am a stoopid American but are there elections scheduled for the UK anytime soon? Or are youse talking about some silly European Parlimentary elections??

BE CAREFUL OUT THERE!!

[Stogie]

We may have to wait a year for democracy to return to the UK.

[robbo]

who knows there might be a general election..........then there might not be a general election they may call one next month..........they may not, first i think they have to figure out whos gonna get what on their expenses due to additional work of election campaigning then next they will have to stop suckin eachothers cocks and get out of bed...............one thing for sure tho its got fuck all to do with the british people, we are only here to make up the numbers be taxed to death and snooped on. we in the uk have moved on from all that democracy bullshite ,dont tell me you still do it in america?.its all a bit old hat.
weve got this fuckin great system now,we dont have to worry about our own country its all taken care of by people that dont even live in the uk,dictatorship by proxy ,comon guys keep up please!

[Stogie]

If Labour were going to call an election they would have done it before the local and EU elections on Thursday.

The reasoning behind this is because although Labour would have lost the general election they would not have suffered the double whammy of being ditched in the local and EU elections by the 'pissed off' vote which of course they are going to be punished with now.

Then again, knowing Labour, they didn't think that far ahead as they were busy stealing tax payers money.

[allstar88]

anyone going to bother voting tomorrow?

[Stogie]

Done a postal vote yesterday!