Obama Wins! Good news or not?

[SamplerDoc]

Having thought long and hard about this, here is how it will all play out:

Black man Wins in 2008 (I know we know)
Woman Wins in 2012
Latino Man Wins in 2016
and a Ladyboy Wins in 2020

Talk about changes
All one term deals tho

[bill520]

(Snick @ Nov. 05 2008,13:35) I think its great, my only worry is that he has inherited the biggest pile of shit that any incoming president has ever had to deal with. And no matter how well he does, its going to be near impossible to clean up all the Bush problems in 4 years.

w00t  

But the question is who did he inherit from? In January 2001, George Bush took over a sinking economy. In March of 2000 ( Bill Clinton was still President ) my retirement fund started losing it's value it lost 45% of it€™s value before it started gaining again. Despite the 9/11/20001 attack on the World Trade Center that almost destroyed the country€™s economy, by 2004 my retirement recovered all it€™s losses and made some gains in it's value.

In late 2004 I was watching c-spans coverage of the house investigation of the illegal book keeping of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, When republicans in charge of the investigation try to warn of the financial storm brewing if something was not done. Democrat Maxine Waters says more lower income people own houses than ever before, she see nothing wrong in the report, and that republicans were trying to fix something that was not broke. One democrat saying he was pissed off at the author of the report and that he was giving the republicans ammunition to put more regulations on the GSE (Government Sponsored Enterprises, Mae and Freddie Mac) and that they wanted to perform heart surgery, where no surgery was needed. Democrat Barney Frank from Massachusetts says he see nothing wrong in the report.

By 2006, 6 years into the Bush administration consumer confidence was high, gas was around $2.00 a gallon, unemployment was around 4.5%. Then in 2006, you voted for your first change by putting the democrats in charge of Congress and in less than 2 years, Consumer confidence has plummeted, Unemployment is up over 5%, the cost of regular gasoline went up over $4.00 a gallon, only recovered because people stopped driving as much. American home values have dropped, home foreclosures have risen, ( democrats failure to heed the warnings in 2004) huge stock and mutual fund losses, economy shrank in the third quarter, for the first contraction in seven years, and now you almost gave the democrats a super majority in congress,

Bush done a lot of things wrong, but he did not cause the financial problem alone, you have to look at the democrats in congress that includes Senator Obama.

[smuttleydfs]

(EyeMahk @ Nov. 05 2008,10:25)

(smuttleydfs @ Nov. 05 2008,06:04) It's quite obvious that there are always going to be the individuals like one in this thread who are too naive and misinformed to look at the "entire" agenda" of a candidate and prefer to put their blinders on and just listen to the right wing rhetoric that is intended to incite baffle and confuse those who refuse to believe.

jaymee, now you see how the Fish Box is so tolerant and accepting of someone else's opinion.    

You don't agree with everything Obama says, so you are naive and misinformed. At least it wasn't racist, moron, redneck, or KKK. Keep posting your opinion, those words will follow.

Is there a point here Eyemahk??? Can't see it if there is...........face it the Right decided that since they were getting smoked and couldn't drop the N word decided to drop the infamous S word in a pathetic attempt to pull the undecided voters and it only worked on those who were too lazy, naive and misinformed to check out the facts..........factcheck.org........try it some time.....of course it is a site initiated by the completely liberal media so it can't be good huh?

There isn't any of Obama's policies that are even borderline socialist.......in fact instead of raising taxes which is the norm for the democratic party Obama is actually going to cut taxes specifically for the middle class.

So get over yourself eyemahk I will point out the fallicies of someone's arguements and I'm real sorry that your chosen political party continues to be a joke and that it to this day still holds no major public offices.........too bad

[swedeman007]

No need to rewrite my feelings on Obama. I decided that I would just cut and paste some information which has been known to be true for years. No need to reinvent the wheel.

The question is: Would Obama Pass a Standard Security Clearance?

With Colin Powell now repeating the lie that Barack Obama has "always
been a Christian," despite new information further confirming Obama's
Muslim childhood (such as the Indonesian school registration listing
him as Muslim), one watches with dismay as the Democratic candidate
manages to hide the truth on this issue.

Instead, then, let us review a related subject €“ Obama's connections
and even indebtedness, throughout his career, to extremist Islam.
Specifically, he has longstanding, if indirect ties to two
institutions, the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), listed
by the U.S. government in 2007 as an unindicted co-conspirator in a
Hamas-funding trial; and the Nation of Islam (NoI), condemned by the
Anti-Defamation League for its "consistent record of racism and anti-
Semitism."

First, Obama's ties to Islamists:

The Khalid al-Mansour connection: According to former Manhattan
Borough president Percy Sutton, Al-Mansour "was raising money for"
Obama's expenses at Harvard Law School. Al-Mansour, a black American
(né Don Warden), became advisor to Saudi prince Al-Walid bin Talal,
CAIR's largest individual donor. Al-Mansour holds standard Islamist
views: he absolves the Islamist government in Sudan of sponsoring
slavery, he denies a Jewish tie to Jerusalem, and he wrote a booklet
titled "Americans Beware! The Zionist Plot Against S. Arabia." (Both
Obama and al-Mansour deny Sutton's account.)

Kenny Gamble, or Luqman Abdul-Haqq, "amir" of the United Muslim
Movement.

The Kenny Gamble (also known as Luqman Abdul-Haqq) connection: Gamble,
a once-prominent pop music producer, cut the ribbon to the Obama
campaign headquarters housed in a south Philadelphia building he owns.
Gamble is an Islamist who buys large swaths of real estate in
Philadelphia to create a Muslim-only residential area. Also, as the
self-styled "amir" of the United Muslim Movement, he has many links to
Islamist organizations, including CAIR and the Muslim Alliance in
North America. (MANA's "amir" is Siraj Wahhaj, an unindicted co-
conspirator in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing.)

The Mazen Asbahi connection: The Obama campaign's first Muslim
outreach coordinator resigned after it came to light that he had
served on the board of a subsidiary of the Saudi-sponsored North
American Islamic Trust, with Jamal Said, another unindicted co-
conspirator in the 2007 Hamas funding trial. Asbahi has ties to CAIR's
Chicago and Detroit offices, to the Islamic Society of North America,
yet another unindicted co-conspirator in the Hamas funding trial, and
to other Islamist organizations.

The Minha Husaini connection: The campaign's second Muslim outreach
coordinator has an Islamist background, having served as an intern in
the Muslim Public Service Network. Immediately upon her appointment by
Obama, she met with a group of about thirty Muslims including such
notorious figures as CAIR's Nihad Awad; the Muslim American Society's
Mahdi Bray, who has publicly supported the Hamas and Hezbollah
terrorist groups; and Johari Abdul Malik of the Dar Al-Hijrah Mosque
in Falls Church, Va., who has advised American Muslims: "You can blow
up bridges, but you cannot kill people who are innocent on their way
to work."

Second, Obama's ties to the Nation of Islam:

Louis Farrakhan, who calls Obama "the Messiah."

Obama's long-time donor and ally Antoin "Tony" Rezko partnered for
nearly three decades with Jabir Herbert Muhammad, a son of NoI leader
Elijah Muhammad, and says he gave Jabir and his family "millions of
dollars over the years." Rezko also served as executive director of
the Muhammad Ali Foundation, a rogue organization that, without Ali's
permission, exploited the name of this CAIR awardee.

Jeremiah Wright, Obama's esteemed pastor for twenty years, came out of
a Nation background, recently he accepted protection from an NoI
security detail, and has praised Louis Farrakhan, the NoI's leader, as
one of the "giants of the African American religious experience."
Wright's church celebrated Farrakhan for his having "truly epitomized
greatness."

Farrakhan himself endorsed Obama, calling him "the hope of the entire
world," "one who can lift America from her fall," and even "the
Messiah."

That Obama's biography touches so frequently on such unsavory
organizations as CAIR and the Nation of Islam should give pause. How
many of politicians have a single tie to either group, much less seven
of them? John McCain charitably calls Obama "a person you do not have
to be scared [of] as president of the United States," but Obama's
multiple links to anti-Americans and subversives mean he would fail
the standard security clearance process for Federal employees.

Islamic aggression represents America's strategic enemy; Obama's many
insalubrious connections raise grave doubts about his fitness to serve
as America's commander-in-chief.

[stonefre]

OK, do we want to start on the Bush family Nazi legacy next?

[katoeylover]

Well that Family is History til Jeb steps up in 2012!!  

Now there's something to look forward too!  

[Monkey]

This is laughable really.

Forget the fact that he is black, was/wasn't Muslim, his aunt is/might be illegal, he looks at LB porn...

I honestly couldn't give a fuck...

the only question that matters is 'can he do the job?'

I hope he can, let's give him a chance then if he cocks it up you can start arguing about him.



p.s. found in my e-mail spam box : Breaking news! Barak Obama is a woman!
Where and when will it end?

[swedeman007]

(stonefre @ Nov. 05 2008,17:35) OK, do we want to start on the Bush family Nazi legacy next?

The Bush ties to Hitler were to Prescott Bush and not "W" himself. The dirt on Obama is in direct relation to him and not his family. I think this is far worse. You cannot honestly condemn or judge a man for his grandfather's actions, but you can condemn a man for his own actions and/or political ties and relationships.

[EyeMahk]

(smuttleydfs @ Nov. 05 2008,17:40) I'm real sorry that your chosen political party continues to be a joke and that it to this day still holds no major public offices.........too bad

Sorry, not taking the bait this time.

But I did observe no name calling from you either! Wow, your temperament must have improved since the victory!

[swedeman007]

(smuttleydfs @ Nov. 05 2008,15:40)

(EyeMahk @ Nov. 05 2008,10:25)

(smuttleydfs @ Nov. 05 2008,06:04) It's quite obvious that there are always going to be the individuals like one in this thread who are too naive and misinformed to look at the "entire" agenda" of a candidate and prefer to put their blinders on and just listen to the right wing rhetoric that is intended to incite baffle and confuse those who refuse to believe.

jaymee, now you see how the Fish Box is so tolerant and accepting of someone else's opinion.    

You don't agree with everything Obama says, so you are naive and misinformed. At least it wasn't racist, moron, redneck, or KKK. Keep posting your opinion, those words will follow.

Is there a point here Eyemahk??? Can't see it if there is...........face it the Right decided that since they were getting smoked and couldn't drop the N word decided to drop the infamous S word in a pathetic attempt to pull the undecided voters and it only worked on those who were too lazy, naive and misinformed to check out the facts..........factcheck.org........try it some time.....of course it is a site initiated by the completely liberal media so it can't be good huh?

There isn't any of Obama's policies that are even borderline socialist.......in fact instead of raising taxes which is the norm for the democratic party Obama is actually going to cut taxes specifically for the middle class.

So get over yourself eyemahk I will point out the fallicies of someone's arguements and I'm real sorry that your chosen political party continues to be a joke and that it to this day still holds no major public offices.........too bad




 




 

There are all kinds of anecdotal ties between Barack Obama and socialism, and some are fairly compelling. Cliff Kincaid of Accuracy in Media pointed out that, for example, Obama was endorsed in 1996 by the Chicago branch of the Democratic Socialists of America for Illinois state senate. He eulogized Saul Mendelson, a well-known socialist activist. And he campaigned for socialist senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont.

And then there are the suggestions that his versions of universal health care and other nationalizing projects are essentially socialist projects. While speaking recently at Columbia University, he spoke of a national volunteer program that many have called socialist in nature.

And his tax plan, whereby he€™d raise taxes for the richest 5% and redistribute that income to the rest of the country, has also earned focused allegations of socialism. Bill O€™Reilly told Obama to his face it was socialist during their much-discussed interview.

[swedeman007]

(kahuna @ Nov. 05 2008,19:47)

(swedeman007 @ Nov. 06 2008,08:50) There are all kinds of anecdotal ties between Barack Obama and socialism, and some are fairly compelling.

Just curious...Are you a Yank?

Yank:

A word used by Brits, Aussies, and various others to refer to Americans. Connotation can range from affectionate to pejorative. Often associated with tired stereotypes of Americans being, of course, fat and stupid people who all drive Hummers and love George Bush (all 32% of us!) and can't locate the planet Earth on a map.

Ironically, within the States, the term is used by the people who best fit said stereotype as a pejorative term for educated, left-leaning urban Northerners.
Chav on bus: Oy, mate! D'yeh think 'at fatty what jus' got on is a yank, like?
University student next to him: It's probably hard for someone who's never left Essex to understand, but...oh, nevermind. I like those Burbory shoelaces in your trainers.

[swedeman007]

The word "Yank" an archiac and insulting word that people from other countries use to describe americans.

[kahuna]

My apology for asking such a difficult question...

I was simply curious...

I be one...

[ohnoriceagain]

I'm so happy! Barack gave me big boner! Truly was "Erection Day." Not to mention that it was a true non-violent revolution.

I'm now 3-5 in Presidential erections.

I know, I know, election=erection is an old, played out joke. But it is apropos, this being a Ladyboy site and all.

McCain and Palin did Saturday Night Live just this past month. Hillary did SNL like in January. Barack did SNL last Halloween 2007. SNL called this race 12 months ago.

Now, I predicted the Prop 8 result here in California. It was losing in the polls 45-49% but I knew it would win; we just voted for this same thing 7 years ago and lost by 8%. This time, we lost by 4% so now it's going to the courts. It lost here in LA County and that was strictly the Hispanic vote that came out for Obama. Strict Roman Catholics. And Blacks are so homophobe, it was a double shot. Obama brought out the young vote, which cut into it by 4% since 2001 The result was quite disappointing but expected.

But I am happy about having a Columbia grad and Harvard Law School grad as President . The ability to learn is a great ability; you'll never remain stagnant. Bush started reading books once elected just to have something to talk about on the NBC Nightly News.

It was a non-violent revolution.

[smuttleydfs]

Joe McCarthy Lives and has assumed the pseudonym of Swedeman007!!!!

Amazing? or Pathetic?

I choose the latter.

Pathetic enough to go to a white supremacist website and cut and paste a bunch of far reaching garbage is truly pathetic.

Please Joe the Swedeman McCarthy provide your sources to this monumental information that really truly could have capsized this election far in favor of the right instead of the token black man sweeping twice as many electoral votes as his opponent.
Please provide them so we can send them to the CIA, the FBI, and every other acronyms in governmental security positions so we can keep this scurrilous rascal from assuming the most powerful position in the world!!!!!

Please save us Joe the Swedeman McCarthy before its too late and Mr Obama has 747s flying into the cities throughout America...........

I beseech you Joe the Swedeman McCarthy we need you now!!!!!