The Sarah Palin I Know

[EyeMahk]

Sound like you have a lot of issues. Maybe time for a few ?

[EyeMahk]

(Torurot @ Sep. 15 2008,03:28) White privilege is being able to say <...................> and not be immediately disqualified from holding office

Wow. Disqualifying someone from public office because of what they say that they believe.  Great idea.  

Then again, you might have posted this just so we could all get a laugh.  

[kahuna]

Sounds as if you missed the point of the quote...

[EyeMahk]

(kahuna @ Sep. 15 2008,04:15) Sounds as if you missed the point of the quote...

No, I certainly know what "point" Mr. Wise is trying to make. I am just pointing out the language that he uses. Banning and "disqualifying" and intolerance for the view of others are things that I make it a point to highlight.

[sev7en]

(EyeMahk @ Sep. 15 2008,18:25)

(kahuna @ Sep. 15 2008,04:15) Sounds as if you missed the point of the quote...

No, I certainly know what "point" Mr. Wise is trying to make. I am just pointing out the language that he uses.  Banning and "disqualifying" and intolerance for the view of others are things that I make it a point to highlight.

Let me guess, you are white?

[EyeMahk]

(sev7en @ Sep. 15 2008,04:44) Let me guess, you are white?

Let ME guess. You're about to call me a racist or redneck because I am not going to vote for Obama?

[sev7en]

(EyeMahk @ Sep. 15 2008,18:49)

(sev7en @ Sep. 15 2008,04:44) Let me guess, you are white?

Let ME guess. You're about to call me a racist or redneck because I am not going to vote for Obama?

Nope.
Do you like Nascar?

Stay black, brotha

[kahuna]

(EyeMahk @ Sep. 15 2008,18:25)

(kahuna @ Sep. 15 2008,04:15) Sounds as if you missed the point of the quote...

No, I certainly know what "point" Mr. Wise is trying to make. I am just pointing out the language that he uses.  Banning and "disqualifying" and intolerance for the view of others are things that I make it a point to highlight.

Perhaps I missed his point then...I just kinda sorta thought he was suggesting if she doesn't know when "under God" was added to the pledge,
perhaps... just perhaps...she might not be as qualified as she and her party claim she is....

Then again, I recall another brilliant VP who couldn't spell tomato...

[Lefty]

White Privilege, White Entitlement and the 2008 Election
By Tim Wise

Thanks for sharing that Torurot. Spot on, as the limeys say.

[smuttleydfs]

Eyemahk.....you are a perfect example why no one, especially the voting public, takes so called "Libertarians" seriously. To date no "libertarian" has held a public office of any signifigance and likely never will. They are about as relevant as the Whig or Torry partys. Plus during my time living in the south most Klan supporters were also "Libertarians"....

Sorry eyemahk but your last few posts have made you pretty much irrelevant in this thread.

[mirimark]

I think she is nice looking. She can Govern my domain anytime.

[sev7en]

(smuttleydfs @ Sep. 16 2008,04:41) Plus during my time living in the south most Klan supporters were also "Libertarians"....

Sorry eyemahk but your last few posts have made you pretty much irrelevant in this thread.

Klan as in KKK???
oh dear, eyemahk is kkk

[Torurot]

Palin

[Torurot]

More Palin

Alaska Women Rally Against Palin And Are Threatened
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8pew...eature=related

The Palin Effect? McCain's Bigger Crowds world news closer look
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGBEGCbkegc


1,500 Protest Palin in Anchorage
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hk6_odKcjXI


http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/story/525008.html
Hundreds turn out for anti-Palin protest

By MARY PEMBERTON
The Associated Press

Published: September 13th, 2008 05:01 PM
Last Modified: September 13th, 2008 07:13 PM

Hundreds of people protesting the policies of Republican vice presidential candidate and Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin lined a busy street on Saturday, waving signs and chanting, "Obama!"

The protest came about two hours after Palin delivered a rousing speech at Anchorage's new convention center before leaving the state to return to the campaign trail.

The protesters, including supporters of presidential candidate Barack Obama and those who don't agree with Palin's positions on abortion, polar bears, Iraq and other issues, lined one side of the street near the Loussac Library.

A much smaller number of mostly pro-Palin supporters were on the other side of the street, chanting, "Sarah! Sarah!"

Police were at the scene, but there were no immediate reports of clashes.

Angie Doroff, 46, helped organize the rally. The wildlife biologist, yoga teacher and artist said she was pleased and surprised at how many people showed up.

"We're not alone. A lot of people are worried about the nomination of Sarah Palin," Doroff said as cars drove by, drivers honking their horns in support.

Barbara Norton, a 56-year-old midwife, stood near a sign that read, "Alaskan Women for Choice."
"I think America does not understand how absolutely extreme her positions are - even to the right of George Bush and John McCain," Norton said. "She is frightening."

Anne Applegate-Scott, a 44-year-old attorney and stay-at-home mom, held a sign that said, "I don't vote for liars." Applegate-Scott said she actually voted for Palin for governor but won't vote for the McCain-Palin ticket. Palin, she thinks, has become a "product" of McCain handlers and they won't let her talk to the media.

When Palin does talk, Applegate-Scott accused her of lying about her record.

"She lied about her position on earmarks and building the bridge," Applegate-Scott said, referring to the infamous Bridge to Nowhere. "She talks about her being a feminist but it is convenient feminism; it doesn't cost her anything."

One woman held a sign that read, "I'm Bail'in on Palin!" Another read, "Pro Woman, Anti-Palin." Another read, "What About Healthcare?"

One person strolled through the crowd in a polar bear suit. The bear was holding a sign that said, "Polar bear moms say No to Palin," a reference to Palin's opposition to placing the polar bear on the threatened species list because that could interfere with drilling for oil off Alaska's coast.

As more people gathered, the rally took on the look of a large family gathering, with protesters hugging each other and exclaiming their surprise that so many people had gathered.

On the lawn outside the library two men held up a large banner that said, "Iraq War is Fraud. Palin is a puppet." One of the men waved an Alaska state flag.

Some of the signs spoke out against Palin's anti-abortion position. Laura Kimmel, a 40-year-old Anchorage woman expecting her second baby in April, wore a clothes hanger with a sign attached that read, "This is not a surgical instrument. Keep abortions safe and legal."

Susan Soule, 65, a part-time health consultant, said she is old enough to remember when abortion wasn't legal and what women went through who wanted to terminate their pregnancies.

"I know the terror of unwanted pregnancy and back-room abortions. I know what that did to women," said Soule.

Hilary Seitz, 39, attended the rally with her two girls, 8-year-old Abbigale and 11-year-old Taylor. If McCain becomes president and Palin is the VP, Seitz said, she fears what will happen on the Supreme Court and keeping abortion legal.

"It really scares me that if we lose that option, what are women going to do," Seitz said. She said that she was at the rally for her girls and their futures.

[Torurot]

http://www.adn.com/front/story/525510.html
Anti-Palin activists stage their own rally

MIDTOWN: Hundreds show up when word spreads over Internet.

By SEAN COCKERHAM
[email protected]

Published: September 14th, 2008 12:05 AM
Last Modified: September 14th, 2008 02:30 AM

A crowd of anti-Sarah Palin protesters gathered in Midtown Anchorage soon after the Republican nominee for vice president left Alaska to resume campaigning in the Lower 48.

The Saturday protest in front of the Loussac Library appeared bigger than any Anchorage has seen in recent memory. The crowd looked to be in the high hundreds at least, and organizers said they counted 1,500. It included roughly 100 counter protesters supporting Palin.

Planning for the protest began as discussions over coffee by a small group calling itself "Alaska Women Reject Palin." As recently as Friday, the group thought it possible that just 10 people would show up to the event. But it went viral on the Internet, with friends forwarding e-mails to friends, and people saying they saw a chance to vent their frustration over what several called the myth of Palin.

"Sarah Palin frightens the hell out of me. I don't want her anywhere near the White House," said Marybeth Holleman of Anchorage.

Protesters had a wide range of beefs with the governor. They included backers of Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama, abortion rights proponents, advocates for wolves and polar bears, opponents of the Iraq war, and people who said Palin is not ready to be a heartbeat from the presidency.

Alison Till, a geologist in Anchorage with the U.S. Geological Survey, said issues such as energy and global warming require solid and unbiased science to make good decisions. Palin's opposition to listing the polar bear as threatened under the endangered species act and her support of teaching creationism in public schools are not the hallmarks of someone who relies upon solid science, Till argued.

"She is unqualified," Till said.

Palin said in a 2006 debate during the governor's race that she thinks creationism should be taught alongside evolution in public schools, but she has not pressed that agenda in the governor's office.

Palin supporters at the protest said she has done a lot of good as governor, including the $1,200 energy rebate checks all Alaskans just received from the state.

"I'll bet on the other side none of those people are going to reject that and send it back," said Rick Case.

Many in the pro-Palin group said they heard about the event on the Eddie Burke radio show on KYBR AM in Anchorage.

Palin opponents said the Burke show also inspired many of them to show up after Burke gave out cell phone numbers of protest organizers on his show.

"We were bombarded with all kinds of hateful, abusive, intimidating phone calls," said Charla Sterne, one of the organizers.

Burke was at the Saturday protest, carrying a sign that said "Alaska is not Frisco." He said the women sent out the phone numbers in a press release about the protest, and he didn't realize they were personal cell numbers.

Burke said he's apologized for calling the Alaska Women Reject Palin group "maggots."

"I used the words socialist, baby killing maggots," said Burke, adding he's only taking back the part about maggots.

Burke said he didn't want the women threatened but thought it arrogant when they denounced Palin's record and position on issues important to "most women and families." As Burke spoke to a reporter at the protest, an angry group formed around him, and a woman declared he "deserves the man of the year award for beating up on women."

"Am I a maggot?" another woman asked.

The protest, which went on for over three hours, appeared peaceful despite the opposing camps. Police were at the scene but were taking a hands-off approach.

It took on a relaxed, almost carnival air. A man with a "Palin Power" sign stood agreeably next to a woman with a placard that said "McBush Palin = More Exxon Justices." One person strolled through the crowd wearing a polar bear suit. A dog was wearing a target that said "Sarah Slaughters Wolves."

There were signs that said "Bush in a Skirt" and signs that said "Palin for President."

Many chanted "O-bam-ah," while, on the other side of the street, the chant was "Sar-ah!" Drums pounded and drivers honked solidarity with one camp or the other.

The protest started about two hours after Palin gave a speech to enthusiastic supporters at a downtown rally. Palin enjoyed high approval ratings in polls as governor, but her candidacy for vice president seems far more divisive.

"Democrats don't like Sarah's conservative views. She's the ultimate of what they are opposed to," said Tony Patrone, standing in the pro-Palin camp. "They'll do whatever they can to keep her from winning."

Some of the anti-Palin protesters said she brought nastiness into the presidential campaign with jabs against Obama, including making fun of his past as a community organizer in Chicago. Others pointed to her support for the "Bridge to Nowhere" -- before she diverted the federal money to other projects -- and the federal earmark money that Palin pursued as Wasilla mayor.

"This election is too important be left to the smears, trivial issues and lies McCain and Palin are trying to make it into," said Rob Lipkin. "The myth (that) either McCain or Palin are mavericks, bringing reform and fresh air into Washington, it's nonsense."