This GG is different!

[Freebird]

No, she ain't but this title helps to draw attention to this thread.

As this is not about a lb, it's in the fish section.

So here we go:

- Met her about 12 times only playing pool and having a few drinks with her. Fucked another girl from her bar in my first week in Thailand. Spend 2 weeks with another girl from her bar. She never asked me for a drink, always waited for me to offer her one (Usually bought her 2 or 3 everytime I've been to the bar and played pool with her). Always gave her a tip of 100 or 200 for playing pool with me nearly the whole night.

- Spend a few days with her NOT having sex, just dinner, disco, whatever.

- She seems to be pretty honest (for a bargirl!). Told me that she got two children (1 and 4 years old), living separated from her thai husband ("not take good care") (Husband or not, actually I don't give a crap about this), doesn't want any husband again. She's working in the bar for just half a year (according to her english nearly being non-existant the first time I talked to her 3 or 4 month ago this might be true).

- She says she is not getting barfined so often... well, I've been to this bar about 30 times and from what I saw, this is true. There was an Indian guy she spend time with some time ago until he turned out to be a fuckin prick. (I had a talk with him one time and played two games pool with him... he is a real fuck)

- Whenever I've been out with her, she got some money, but she never asked for it. She is really modest when we go out. Never asks for anything. Even eating cheap food wherever we go. Sometimes paying the bus or for pool games in other bars... not that much money she had to pay but it's a nice gesture...

- She never said anything like "I like you".

- She never send any fuckin "Miss you" mail.

- EDIT: Forgot this one, been shoping with her (needed a shirt, forgot to take enough with me this weekend), she wasn't looking at anything for herself, she didn't ask me to buy anything for her

- Always paid her upfront for the time we spend, she never had to fuck off for some strange reason.

- Fucked her this weekend, she started it, actually I wanted to sleep cause I was really tired. Hell she was wet...

- She is more or less homophobic (She actually was close to puking after seeing two girls making out in a gogo, even after we left the bar she was choking for 3 more minutes )

So, I spend my whole last weekend with her, she never tried any bullshit with me so far...

Anyone got any clue what she is up to? Somehow I actually like her (NOT LOVE!!!) and I guess I'll take her out of the bar for the next months. Mentioned it in another thread:

- I don't have to cook myself
- I don't have to clean up my room
- I got someone who can teach me Thai everyday
- I'm enjoying my time with her

- She's making more money than now

Win-Win situation

The only different thing from most other stories: She's 2 1/2 years older than me so the gap between our ages ain't that big. With 27, all the fresh young Isaangirls arriving in Pattaya everyday, the stretchmarks on her belly (I don't mind)... she isn't obviously the first choice for most people.

Anyone sees anything suspicious? To me this will be some kind of "Zweckbeziehung" (means, we both profit in one or another way from it but it's not about love... can't find a matching word for this in English) so my feelings will not get hurt after all if it turns out to be a big mess. Well, I just wonder if there is anything I overlook...

[Naang Faa]

Is her name Ning?
x

[seamus]

Not Ning, Naang ? LOL

[Freebird]

(Naang Faa @ Apr. 01 2008,04:24)
Is her name Ning?
x

Who cares about names? It's easier for me to remember a phone number than a name.

[Naang Faa]

Whats her number then?
x

[Freebird]

Why do I ask for a serious advice? I should know that you usually don't get them in a forum. Maybe I should make a poll the next time

- DO IT, nothing to loose
- DON'T DO IT, you'll get into trouble

Much easier, isn't it?

[buttafly]

(Freebird @ Apr. 01 2008,04:07) - She seems to be pretty honest



Anyone sees anything suspicious?

as usual I am the skeptic here....seen too many westerners get burned over the years NOT to be .... the line "she seems pretty honest" [heard here at least 100 times] is usually followed 3 or 4 months later by "the fookin' bitch stole my cell fone, my TV, cleaned out my bank account and went back to her Thai  BF"

  But sometimes these things work, who knows...as you say it's a good situation for both sides as long as your expectations are real going in and you know NOT to fall in love or get over-emotional, etc....

     remember the ol' Bob Seger line in Night Moves ... 'I used her, she used me, and neither one cared'

     I've been following that philosophy for years and it works pretty well .....if you don't put your heart out there to be hurt then it won't be.

[Freebird]

(buttafly @ Apr. 01 2008,05:14) as usual I am the skeptic here....seen too many westerners get burned over the years NOT to be .... the line "she seems pretty honest" [heard here at least 100 times] is usually followed 3 or 4 months later by "the fookin' bitch stole my cell fone, my TV, cleaned out my bank account and went back to her Thai BF"

But sometimes these things work, who knows...as you say it's a good situation for both sides as long as your expectations are real going in and you know NOT to fall in love or get over-emotional, etc....

Well, losing my cell phone wouldn't bother me, except for having to type the numbers into a knew one.

Clean my bank account? Just go ahead, 30.000 baht and it's over...

TV? I don't have one. ^^ Besides, if she'd be leaving the place I live she would be checked by the guard anyway if she got something bigger in size with her.

To "clean out" my room she would have to come with a car and get a permission to enter the area... well, impossible to get without me knowing before.

"Seems to be pretty honest" ... I guess if she had 3 children not only 2 she'd told me. Even if that's a lie, at least I know that she got children anyway. (Otherwise the strech marks would have "told" me anyway) If there is a bf waiting somewhere, I don't give a shit. She could even tell me, go see him every two weeks or whatever...

Fall in love with her? Didn't work with any girl so far, I don't even love my gf back home (I like her a lot but love takes time).

She already got children, that's an absolute no way!

Skeptic? That's my second name.

So I thought of nearly every important point and thought about a worst case scenario. Actually nothing too bad can happen to me (well, she could kill me while I'm asleep but she wouldn't benefit from that, would she?).

[Road Runner]

OK - although she has baggage she has apparently been upfront about it.

From your side are you prepared to adopt the family aswell? Because that is the way it works - you don't just get the girl the family is included in the deal.

RR.

[Stewart]

And she might expect you to be faithful!!!!

(Well, that's that idea probably fucked then!)

If she didn't gag at the lesbian show, I might have thought this could have some nice side benefits with her inviting her girlie friends round for the occasional threesome

[pacman]

Hey Freebird, there is nothing I can tell out of the ordinary in her behaviour.
This is standard regulation play in catching a falang. Sometime between birth & starting work in a bar, they all graduate with a Masters degree in the human condition.

She knows there are younger, prettier options out there who can afford to burn guys with their repeated requests for stuff, your friend is playing a waiting game.
But she sounds nice, you seem OK with her, there are many genuine ones out there, despite the negative stories we all hear.
I suggest you just go with it, you are the customer she has been praying for & she will do whatever necessary to keep you happy.
There is no child support payment in Thailand & keeping them fed & able to get them education, that's what forced her into bar work in the first place.

When kids enter the equation, relationships go to a different plan.
Don't worry about the cynics, nearly all the bad rip-offs are carried out by those with a dependency problem.
Your friend is not so silly to drive away her meal ticket.

You may well find this girl gets under your skin & will prove to be better value then 100 teenagers who will pretend to like you for payment.

Good luck with her.

[kahuna]

Sure she is different from your everyday dishonest lying cheating money hungry ladyboy....your babe ain't got a cock..

"Nothing is easier than self-deceit. For what each man wishes, that he also believes to be true." Demosthenes

[Freebird]

"And she might expect you to be faithful!!!"

No problem? I'm not in Thailand to screw as many girls as possible. But she knows that I screw lb's sometimes (and keeps kidding me about that... "Look, maaaany ladyboy, all for you. You want take home? I can sleep bathroom." *bigsmile*)

"You may well find this girl gets under your skin & will prove to be better value then 100 teenagers who will pretend to like you for payment."

Actually I was never to much into the teens. After the first 2 gg's I never took one below 25 again, except for lb's.

"From your side are you prepared to adopt the family aswell? "

She knows that there is no way. And as you say, it's a "deal". Deal; not love.


@kahuna

I prefer: "Never underestimate the power of denial."

[eltel]

Most of us are cynics especially myself.

I was with a great GG on my last trip and we got on well.
I am looking forward to seeing her again (in between the odd lb).

But being pragmatic I take each time as it comes.

Horror stories. We've all heard them.

What about success stories?
A friend of a friend knows two couples who have been together over ten years.
One living in NZ and the other in the UK.

So sometimes these relationships do work.

[Freebird]

Any more good advise? She'll be out within the next days... I'm really getting pissed to cook my own meal coming back from work.